is the rap game boring?

[African Peasant]

The people wanted 'regular nikka rap' & they got it, regular nikkas are boring, especially if they're from the burbs. The suburbs replacing the hood as the main source of rappers deaded a lot of things in the culture, larger then life characters being one of them.

NY Hiphop falling the fukk off also aided this, New Yorkers the most charasmatic people in the country, let's be honest.

Yep, Hip-Hop died with the East.

No tree = no root.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

There's a reason rappers embellish and flat out lie about their past, most people's lives in general are boring period.

Only if gangsters, thugs and rich people had the talent to rap. The piff!

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

I won't say rap is boring. It is predictable. No one is daring because they're scared of the media and social media. The risk takers come out on top.

 

[mbewane]

Whether "right" or "wrong", it's telling that these threads get done with such regularity. Part nostalgia, part objective wackness of a lot of today's rap game I guess.

Me I'm hardly excited by new projects. Mostly into EDM/electronic trap/Soulection type music now. Still check out albums and tracks here and there but, yeah.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Man I agree with @stomachlines and @Gator Reloaded rap sucks so bad right now I have never been less interested in it! And I've been listening to hip hop since 1989!

Alright....I live in NYC....and all I hear is trap beats...2 chainz...fetty wack...dj mustard...drake...Chris brown...and Gucci Mane out everybody's car window. This is New York yall...and dawn near 90% of the hip hop & rap I hear is NOT coming from New Yorkers.

But real talk...call me old fashioned and flabby and sick cause this new shyt is trash. Heard this one song that was like..."bad bytches is what I like..." and I was just at the song...just trashy, immature, vulgar, brainless garbage!

I seriously hate damn near everything about rap and hip hop culture now. All these stupid video models getting famous for spreading they legs for rappers...dumb white & asian girls on their Miley Cyrus routine wearing grills for instar am with their Jordans smoking blunts for likes and three years later ditching that life after they pussies all worn out from Marquan and Juan stretching them walls out for a life in the burbs and a career in health care or law enforcement...culture vultures galore who think that all rap and hip hop culture is is an excuse to act ignorant and irresponsible and smoke weed...dumbass gangbangers trying to be rappers and they can't rap...All of these never will bes with no talent dropping mixtapes that no one will ever listen to on datpiff called "the hood made me pt.20134" advertising their shows no one will go to when they should be out getting job skills and an education, countless strip club anthems, stupid love and hip hop type hoes that ain't shyt but a sperms receptacle that get famous for getting knocked up by dumbass rappers dumb enough to wife them broads...everything but the music matters now.

It's gotten to the point where all of this stupid rap is literally overshadowing the quality releases I would check out cause I literally don't care anymore.

I just listen to house and techno now...hang out at house and techno parties in lofts in Brooklyn and manhattan...go to house and techno clubs...cause that music is poppin and matters more to me now.

I can't get with this new generation of swag faq loving hip hop...funk this shyt.

I grew up with hip hop when it was about dope rhymes...dope beats...graffiti and breakin...I remember taping the radio and staying up all night Listening to underground hip hop. This ain't rap this is CRAP!

This ain't hip hop this is a flop

Fukk hot 97
Fukk Ehoe
Fukk Peter rosenherb!

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Respectfully, I think we as hip hop fans gotta get out of that mentality. Because I think it's the cac influence getting into hip hop. Hip hop is not a 'technical' artform. Neither was soul, the direct father of hip hop.

When James Brown came out, critics said he wasn't musical, technical yada yada yada. His notes were minimalist and repetitive. They didn't realize that a) James had charisma unlike anything they'd ever seen and b) when your music comes from the dirt/struggles of life, what matters first is the creativity of the realness/passion.

Technical now and technical back then meant something totally different. Besides, you had to have charisma (the basics) before anyone started discussing what your technical attributes were.

Now you can come into the game with zero charisma and personality, and dudes will big you up for having bars. As if it's not the easiest thing in the world to come only with bars and nothing else.

just my $0.02

Rap is for white hipsters now...

This the gentrification era of hip hop man...

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Just to clarify my last statement...I'm not even saying that as a diss...but hip hop has now become too accessible with the Internet now and while it's become very global...The taste makers behind the trends have left the hood...and now are in the burbs and in the up and coming hip and urban areas now. The very force pushing the hood out.

The most connection this hip hop audience has with the forces that Create the music is the drug dealer that was born and raised in the same hood they gentrify that they score their party drugs from.

The source is irrelevant...pitchfork is relevant.
Xxl...doesn't matter anymore...vice and noisey does.
A person like Anthony Fontano has more of a broad reach than someone like a Lord Jamar...who really appeals to the old guard.
Goodbye freaknik & rock the bells...Hello Coachella and bonaroo.

The new audience just wants something they can't relate to enjoy ironically...they have no connection to the music. The music is as disconnected from the lifestyles of the listeners as possible.

It's almost college hippie/stoner chic...so far removed from that street hip hop I was once so familiar with.

I can't relate to a Drake...but I know who can...and that just tells me this new hip hop is not for me.

Shyt I can't relate to most of these new rapppers...Most of their stuff is just about clothing brands...strains of dro...getting p*ssy...and no words that sound good but really don't mean anything. It's so simple...it's almost insulting to me as a listener. I hate to think that this generation of pacified almost sedated hip hop listeners has regressed to such primitive states...yet it's heralded as art...but I can't see it.

 

[SirBiatch]

Honestly, I don't know how @*L*E*G*A*C*Y* and @mbewane listen to techno/EDM now. No shot at you guys though. I'm just trying to imagine myself in your shoes.

I'd be a totally different person if I wasn't into hip hop as heavy as I am now. Going out to hear house/EDM/techno?

I appreciate hip hop more now that I'm older because I realize how complex and beautiful the culture is.

I'm not even hard on the new school cats because of the messages. Sure, rap is more juvenile than it's ever been but it was pretty juvenile in our day, too. I think the major difference is that we encouraged more creativity and we were more rebellious. The new generation just isn't as rebellious as we were. And hip hop is rebellion at its core.

I'm mad because the new cats are scared to really do amazing shyt. Talk about bytches if you want to: just be more creative and put some meaning into it.

Big Pimpin wasn't some super deep analysis into men-women relationships, but it's far wittier and more memorable than any track on the topic since 2006.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

Honestly, I don't know how @*L*E*G*A*C*Y* and @mbewane listen to techno/EDM now. No shot at you guys though. I'm just trying to imagine myself in your shoes.

I'd be a totally different person if I wasn't into hip hop as heavy as I am now. Going out to hear house/EDM/techno?

I appreciate hip hop more now that I'm older because I realize how complex and beautiful the culture is.

I'm not even hard on the new school cats because of the messages. Sure, rap is more juvenile than it's ever been but it was pretty juvenile in our day, too. I think the major difference is that we encouraged more creativity and we were more rebellious. The new generation just isn't as rebellious as we were. And hip hop is rebellion at its core.

I'm mad because the new cats are scared to really do amazing shyt. Talk about bytches if you want to: just be more creative and put some meaning into it.

Big Pimpin wasn't some super deep analysis into men-women relationships, but it's far wittier and more memorable than any track on the topic since 2006.

House and techno are the forgotten...almost ignored cousins of hiphop.

Here in Brooklyn...you see people of all types getting into that music...blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, gays, lesbians, skaters, hood dudes, fashionistas, weird art kids from Europe and Japan...it's exciting. Also, there's that hip hop influence there too. The music stems from the dj...which is where hip hop originates. And the culture behind the music is the same as hiphop...started by blacks and hispanics. But it became global.

I wish more black folk would get into it and start "reclaiming" the genre so to speak...Instead of letting it get passed off as just another "white" genre like jazz, rock, the blues, metal, etc...that's the problem with hiphop becoming so popular within the black community and r&b...other art forms we create become neglected and then others take it and make it their own. And make it seem "weird" so to speak for us to even enjoy it...even though it came from black people.

 

[mbewane]

Honestly, I don't know how @*L*E*G*A*C*Y* and @mbewane listen to techno/EDM now. No shot at you guys though.

I'd be a totally different person if I wasn't into hip hop as heavy as I am now. Going out to hear house/EDM/techno?

I appreciate hip hop more now that I'm older because I realize how complex and beautiful the culture is.

I'm not even hard on the new school cats because of the messages. Sure, rap is more juvenile than it's ever been but it was pretty juvenile in our day, too. I think the major difference is that we encouraged more creativity and we were more rebellious. The new generation just isn't as rebellious as we were. And hip hop is rebellion at its core.

I'm mad because the new cats are scared to really do amazing shyt. Talk about bytches if you want to: just be more creative and put some meaning into it.

Big Pimpin wasn't some super deep analysis into men-women relationships, but it's far wittier and more memorable than any track on the topic since 2006.

I totally agree with all of this breh, and actually I'm listening to soem old school stuff too and indeed re-discovering how complex and great the music/culture is. Which makes me even more mad about where a lot of it is at now.

Like you said, I don't even mind WHAT you're talking about, it's more HOW you're talking about it.

I used the EDM term VERY loosely, because to be honest I'm not even sure what the right term for what I listen is

I do these compilations every now and then, maybe you can check it out and see what kind of stuff I listen to. It's mostly "beats", instrumental stuff, not really techno or house

Anyway I recommend if you don't know them checking out the Soulection label, they do some good stuff. Soulection too.

 

[SirBiatch]

House and techno are the forgotten...almost ignored cousins of hiphop.

Here in Brooklyn...you see people of all types getting into that music...blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, indians, gays, lesbians, skaters, hood dudes, fashionistas, weird art kids from Europe and Japan...it's exciting. Also, there's that hip hop influence there too. The music stems from the dj...which is where hip hop originates. And the culture behind the music is the same as hiphop...started by blacks and hispanics. But it became global.

I wish more black folk would get into it and start "reclaiming" the genre so to speak...Instead of letting it get passed off as just another "white" genre like jazz, rock, the blues, metal, etc...that's the problem with hiphop becoming so popular within the black community and r&b...other art forms we create become neglected and then others take it and make it their own. And make it seem "weird" so to speak for us to even enjoy it...even though it came from black people.

I totally feel you on all that.....

but I just like the feel of a hard melodic beat and some cat talking edgy fly shyt over it. That's the pinnacle of music to me, lol. I was watching the Clipse Grindin video last night, after not hearing the track in a while. And it struck me how fukking COOL and badass hip hop used to be. It was amazing party music with an edge.

Every other genre is just a step down.

Maybe I need to party to house/techno in a room full of Black/cool people so I can be reminded of how cool those genres are.

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

I totally feel you on all that.....

but I just like the feel of a hard melodic beat and some cat talking edgy fly shyt over it. That's the pinnacle of music to me, lol. I was watching the Clipse Grindin video last night, after not hearing the track in a while. And it struck me how fukking COOL and badass hip hop used to be. It was amazing party music with an edge.

Every other genre is just a step down.

Maybe I need to party to house/techno in a room full of Black/cool people so I can be reminded of how cool those genres are.

Don't get me wrong...I'll always love hiphop...but I always like to take into consideration other types of music to keep my tastes open...plus I just love music period.

As well I dj and produce house and techno...hiphop is my main influence but I like to translate that into other musical artforms.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

I feel like most these artists are all trying to sound like each other..a bunch of copy cat clones. Same sounding beats and flows. So obvious.

 

[mbewane]

I feel like most these artists are all trying to sound like each other..a bunch of copy cat clones. Same sounding beats and flows. So obvious.

Sometimes now you can't even recognize who is who on a track it's crazy...why is it that we had MCs like Snoop, Meth, Red, Nas, Pun etc that you would INSTANTLY recognize because of his particular voice/flow/style, and now we have legions of Young whatevers

 

[SirBiatch]

Sometimes now you can't even recognize who is who on a track it's crazy...why is it that we had MCs like Snoop, Meth, Red, Nas, Pun etc that you would INSTANTLY recognize because of his particular voice/flow/style, and now we have legions of Young whatevers

Because those guys had an actual personality.

These new cats are complete robots.