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Goddamn ya man prof droppin gems Don't ask me how
Is The Rock an A-list actor?
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Goddamn ya man prof droppin gems Don't ask me how
You do realize that EVERYONE is making that same argument against Dwayne? What movie franchise has he carried on his own? None, whatsoever. I intentionally posted the Ocean franchises to make this point. You credit Dwayne for the Fast & Furious franchise when Vin Diesel/Paul Walker carried that franchise when Dwayne was the Scorpion King. George Clooney actually held top billing on the Ocean cast. I don't know why you keep name dropping Julia Roberts. We're not in the 1980's anymore
How are you gonna counter argue yourself in the same god damn post?
Those are Rock level hits? News to me
He gets TOP credit because he got TOP billing for the cast, playing the fukking title character of the series. Funny how that works, eh?Of course she's the top actress in TDKR. She's third billed in the whole cast after Bats and Bane. Even you can't be dumb enough to actually try basing your argument on this on immediate internet message board reaction to the castingJust like Ledger, anyone hating changed their tune after seeing the movie, and of course its totally irrelevant anyway to the fact that she was the top actress in the movie.
Of her top-grossing films, Alice in Wonderland is the only one where Hathaway wasnt top billed or the lead actress. Clooney is top billed in every one of his highest grossing films.
Dwayne can only say that about Journey 2 (kids franchise he stepped in for to replace Fraser) and Scorpion King (spinoff of Fraser Mummy franchise.) For all the others, he's third fiddle in an already successful franchise or like fukking 8th billed, glorified cameo role.
There's no debate to be had here.
Anne Hathaway drew Dark Knight Rises?
The desperation...
GoddamnyamanProf
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Top actress in the film.
Everyone watched Fast Five for Rock..go look at any reviews of it. You can't say the same of Hathaway in the damn finale of the triology
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I saw Die Hard the other night and they showed G.I Joe, Snitch and Fast Six trailers in succession. Considering he has all these movies coming out in a short span, plus he's headlining WrestleMania as champ.. its impressive
GoddamnyamanProf
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What is a "Rock level hit?" Look at the numbers. Rock's third highest-grossing film, if you wanna count it, would be Get Smart. A film in which he had a small supporting role. A film starring Ann Hathaway. So thats top 3 for Dwayne but not even top 5 for Anne. Overall, she's grossed more than twice as much as Dwayne in films where she's had bigger roles than his.
Again, you have no argument...unless you want to resort to denying simple math.
Depends on what your definition of A List Actor is. He was on the forbes list last year. anytime he is on the late night tv shows he's the 1st guest out. He has big time name recognition by Dwayne Johnson and The Rock and his movies(except a few) don't flop.
is he as good an actor as a Clooney, Hanks, Will Smith, etc hell no. but that's not the type of actor he is or has been. neither was Arnold but he was A List for the success of his movies. there are actor's actors and there are movie actors, and they both can be A List. Rock is a movie actor, you ain't gonna ever see him doing a play on Broadway.
is he as good an actor as a Clooney, Hanks, Will Smith, etc hell no. but that's not the type of actor he is or has been. neither was Arnold but he was A List for the success of his movies. there are actor's actors and there are movie actors, and they both can be A List. Rock is a movie actor, you ain't gonna ever see him doing a play on Broadway.
And this is all that needs to be said.
GoddamnyamanProf
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Everyone watched Fast Five for Rock..go look at any reviews of it. You can't say the same of Hathaway in the damn finale of the triology
So your argument goes Anne Hathaway wasnt the top actress in DKR to people you read on message boards didnt like the casting to okay she was the top actress but she wasnt the reason people saw the movie to dwayne was the reason everyone saw fast five even though he was listed on the marquee third after the franchise's two stars and we know this because uhh i read a review that said it laugh smilie face
Sound argument there. Fine reasoning.
#Dat'Tism
GoddamnyamanProf
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Right, but you're still trying to compare Dwayne to Arnold. Arnold could never act but the thing that made him A List, the thing that separated him from the Van Damme's and Segals is he had many, many blockbuster hits, carried franchises as the star, etc. All those movies people listed in this thread and others. Dwayne hasn't done that yet. He doesnt have a Terminator, a Predator, even a True Lies. Films that grossed a ton of money and, for what its worth, were actually very good movies to boot.
I compared them in terms of "acting ability" those action blockbuster movies of the 80s and 90s are done. Those shoot em up, kill kill kill movies weren't hot in the 2000s. they may start to make a comeback now, but there haven't been any terminator, rambos, etc since then. He hasn't had a role like Rambo or Terminator or John Mclane, but no one has(outisde of maybe Jason Bourne) The biggest action movies these days are comic book based for the most part. I wouldn't compare him to Arnold, Stallone, or Willis because in their prime those are the biggest action movie guys in history. Rock doesn't have to be that to be A List. He's certainly had enough consistent success at the box office to be A List, plus his global recognition is high. there are multiple factors that go into being an A List actor imo.
When he does action movies like Faster and The Rundown they barely make a profit and are usually critically panned. When he does the kids movies they usually rake in the dough. I can see why he doesn't do more action movies cuz this ain't the 80's and 90's when an action movie is guaranteed to bank. Now most action movies that make money are comic book movies or sequels of franchises that have been out for years.
Very sound. No one went to see Anne for Dark Knight Rises. No man will admit that...anywhere. Period. Fast Five...who didn't give the Rock most of the credit for the bigger numbers? It's called reality. Not that hard to put together. It's out there and it's on the record.
Race to Witch Mountain..Journey 2....Game Plan......
Hathaway doesn't have hits like that on her own. Never did. Now she's the reason for Get Smart and Dark Knight Rises being successful? LOL.
