That extends to hood rap
Performing in hood spots or clubs will lead to you getting your pockets tapped
Is there a way to be a part of hiphop culture without being involved with the streets?
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That extends to hood rap
Performing in hood spots or clubs will lead to you getting your pockets tapped
Guvnor
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Dang, how you know the names of who Cole got on with. I know he had to have some ties cause even before rap dude was on my super sweet 16 in the cut and shyt lmao. Also I remember childish mentioning Tina Fey but didn't put it together that he had NYU connections.
That's crazy man. shyt like that make the game unfair cause as much talent as you got it means nothing without connections and they gonna want money too.
i find it pathetic and RACIST how you just profile the blacks in the streets and gangs as being the ONLY criminal element in the game...
when its quite clear the Italian mafioso...jewish underworld syndicates running these agencies and russians are wayy more dangerous than the "boyz in the hood".....
word to Chris Lighty
No Chicago is not only black gangs. I mentioned Chicago because the fukking Mob was out there and all kind of corruption from both white and black people.
True that but according to some of the brothers in here it's not always the streets but it can be backing by corporate connections tied to things like the mob.
shyt seems spooky. Forget that fake illuminati shyt, but what SKJ and SJUGrad are speaking on is like the real illuminati.
Guvnor
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Facts!Yeah it's called a consumer
Either that or as I keep saying they got top notch security or something but I doubt that's the case with Cole brcause he walks the streets among the people too much for all that.
Don't Detroit not allow people to come in period if they don't pay trick trick money. I'm thinking someone on their side has to either have connections or pay that fine but who knows. Maybe that only applies to some rappers
Guvnor
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obviously you have no idea of the reality of PAYOLA
cause all the deejays were on the take and still are puppets of crime syndicates....
i use to get money from a certain street cat whom is in a halfway house right now to deejays in strip clubs and hip hop venues during the late 90s and early 2000's throughout the deep south...my particular region was jaxsonville florida to myrtle beach where i met my ex fiance trying to bribe..ahem i mean persuade a deejay during black bike week to play a particlar single our "street promotions" team was pushing....
and when we didn't wanna provide cash...drinks....jewelry and byatches would suffice..and we were the "good guys' in the game...
cause OTHER crews whom i wont name would resort to more AGGRESSIVE TACTICS....
and this ain't nothing new....
Clive Davis had been forced to resign from CBS because the allegations of "cocaine payouts" to deejays at various urban radio stations had been so strong....
even Farrakhan had addressed it in a 80's speech on the industry which was later sampled by Public Enemy on IT TAKES A NATION lp..
"you dope pushers ..using your fame as a DJ to sell DRUGS!!!'.....- LOUIS FARRAKHAN....
even meech commented on how thin the lines were between deejay culture and drug culture....because he was a deejay himself prior to his street infamy...
and it wasnt limited to one region.....Frankie Crocker of WBLS which basically gave rap music it's start on commercial radio was constantly under investigation for Payola.......
which mad sense considering Frankie didn't even like rap music...but his association with the Genovese backed Robinson family of Sugarhill records enabled RAPPERS DELIGHT to have it's debut on Frankie Crocker's watch in NYC...
in fact many of the deejay associations such as the Aphilliates and CORE deejays as well as record pools were in cahoots more with GANGSTERS than the rappers themselves...because at the end of the day DEEJAYS always held the most power...while rappers were just expendable...
Cadillac Records the movie covers that greatly when they show how Muddy Waters record company boss was paying off guys like Alan Reed one of the first disc jocks to play black artists during the segregation era which validates why not only hip hop culture but BLACK ENTERTAINMENT period is so tied into the UNDERWORLD..simply cause mainstream america wasnt accepting of it...so it had to go thru alternative channels that happened to be controled by MOBSTERS.....
Damn the rap game is scary as fukk
Now I kinda regret asking the question cause as they say sometimes, you can't handle the truth lol.Also you really know your history man, salute!
Tina fey is the client of superagent Michelle Bohan whom works for the Genovese Mafia family created William Morris Agency.....And yes they are dangerous as FUKK.....so many mysterious murders the FBI have tied to this agency dating back to the time they signed Marylin Monroe
Y'all act as if the corporate world operates by higher morals and standards than the underworld that is so FALSE...
Even before this stuff came about with Trump and Putin Russian gangsters
Sammy the Bull an associate of John gotti told ABC nightline that nothing Trump couldn't build anything in NYC without the consent of the Gambinos whom controlled the construction unions back then in the 80s...[/QUOTE]
Never did I say the suits operate on a better moral ground. I just said Gambino education helped him out and it did. Look at all these cac industry executives, best believe NYU is represented.
I doubt the five families are worried about Tina fey and Gambino.
I think all of y'all are misunderstanding the fact that criminal ties to entertainers go beyond the streets and is not just limited to hood artists with gangsta themes...
And this dynamic (crime and entertainment) was here LONG BEFORE hip hop became an industry
Because it ain't just Protection that artists require from the underworld it's also the key to GETTING INTO THE ENTERTAINMENT GAME....
which is why it doesn't matter if you do happy go lucky music....nothing insulates you from underworld elements simply because u have fame and can bring in revenue
In this picture U have fun loving Bob Marley sitting between two notorious gangstas of Jamaica during the 70s...
Claudie Massop and Bucky Marshall both of whom ran posses whom held major influence on the reggae industry
Even the soft balled lovely singer Dionne Warwick was subpoena by the Feds for testimony against mob affiliated superagent NORBY WALTERS and his partner in crime Michael Franceze
So once again ...NOBODY IS EXEMPT
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BK The Great
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as long as you don't portray that life then you are pretty much good i guess. alot of these rappers who put out that energy of being the biggest boss out there definitely paying people to protect them.
Not true.....
Michael Jackson rolled with Frank Dileo to get Michael Franceze off his azz
Teddy Pendergrass and Patti Labelle were being held down by Philly Black Mafia
Anita Baker solo debut was bankrolled by Freeway Ricky Ross
New Edition and Bobby Brown were first protected by Suge whom was working for Al Haymon during the 80s on the tour circuit
Fats Waller had performed for Al Capone after being held at gunpoint
Even Tyler Perry is being exposed by an ATL gangsta whom bankrolled him
The list goes on and on.....in fact their probably was more R&B and Blues and Jazz cats whom were affiliated with gangstas than rappers.....
Because r&b reached its heights during the age when the mafia had I restricted POWER
Guvnor
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On another note I wanted to go to NYU bad cause I always liked that school. I got into St.Johns but end up going to neither. Imagine a nikka going there and getting them million dollar connections and a degree from there though
I was so close and should have more seriously aimed for NYU but didn't apply.
BK The Great
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I think all of y'all are misunderstanding the fact that criminal ties to entertainers go beyond the streets and is not just limited to hood artists with gangsta themes...
And this dynamic (crime and entertainment) was here LONG BEFORE hip hop became an industry
Because it ain't just Protection that artists require from the underworld it's also the key to GETTING INTO THE ENTERTAINMENT GAME....
which is why it doesn't matter if you do happy go lucky music....nothing insulates you from underworld elements simply because u have fame and can bring in revenue
In this picture U have fun loving Bob Marley sitting between two notorious gangstas of Jamaica during the 70s...
Claudie Massop and Bucky Marshall both of whom ran posses whom held major influence on the reggae industry
Even the soft balled lovely singer Dionne Warwick was subpoena by the Feds for testimony against mob affiliated superagent NORBY WALTERS and his partner in crime Michael Franceze
So once again ...NOBODY IS EXEMPT
that's pretty interesting to say the least, guess it doesn't matter who it is then.
I think all of y'all are misunderstanding the fact that criminal ties to entertainers go beyond the streets and is not just limited to hood artists with gangsta themes...
And this dynamic (crime and entertainment) was here LONG BEFORE hip hop became an industry
Because it ain't just Protection that artists require from the underworld it's also the key to GETTING INTO THE ENTERTAINMENT GAME....
which is why it doesn't matter if you do happy go lucky music....nothing insulates you from underworld elements simply because u have fame and can bring in revenue
In this picture U have fun loving Bob Marley sitting between two notorious gangstas of Jamaica during the 70s...
Claudie Massop and Bucky Marshall both of whom ran posses whom held major influence on the reggae industry
Even the soft balled lovely singer Dionne Warwick was subpoena by the Feds for testimony against mob affiliated superagent NORBY WALTERS and his partner in crime Michael Franceze
So once again ...NOBODY IS EXEMPT
I'm not saying your wrong ( I agree with the connection), but you maybe overemphasizing these guys influence. The way Jews look out for each other in the industry, is the same way these black folks get in. I find it hard to fathom a person who grew up with Obama would put himself in that situation.
I respect the knowledge though.
Guvnor
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Oh yeah, I remember reading about how blues and Jazz were heavily tied in with gangsters. Not always the mob and white gangsters but black gangsters too. Some of the performers even were about that life and used to throw hands and shyt.
You also got to remember when Jazz popped off it was during prohibition so who was the one selling the bootleg liquor in the clubs? The mobsters, that's who.
I didn't know about Teddy P and Patti, or even Mike but he did used to say Tommy Motolla was a devil. Also I did hear Freeway Rick Ross himself say he paid for Anita Baker's first recording in an interview.
In fact Freeway Rick Ross also could have been an investor in death row records with Suge knight but wasn't.
Damn the rap game is scary as fukk
Also you really know your history man, salute!
Correction: the Entertainment game is scary as fukk
I know of a sweet looking American Idol finalist SINGER whom old master recordings being held right now till this by a southern gangsta azz dude that I met whom refuses to release them unless his PRICE is met
Same with a middle aged gospel singer whom I tried to sign but the deal fell thru because she owed a HUGE DEBT to the so called exec producer whom refused to clear her for a project I had..
Gangstas don't care about genres they just wanna and gonna EAT
What makes you think OBAMA is innocent?
And as a forty something year old man whom has come in contact with many personalities in the music and boxing game.....
I have no reason to exaggerate my friend
And in that note...I bid u all good nite
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