Is This Man Correct About "Victim Blaming?"

[Poitier]

We are working towards a perfect world even if we never get there. "Victim blaming" or "risk assessment" will never get us there because it's about not being hard enough on the crimina and policing the actions of people who are already GOOD by societal standards, or at least GOOD in the situation in which the were victimized.

This guy's whole point of view is off because he doesn't even understand the thought process and psychology behind what he is talking about. Victim blaming places even more responsibility on the backs of people who are already GOOD or trying to be, while taking some of the heat off people who would be BAD no matter who the person is.

A regular GOOD person doesn't see someone walking street at night alone and then suddenly comes up with the lightbulb idea in their head to rape them because it's opportunistic and because that person is walking down the street. You don't think a rapist/murderer/etc. BEEN thinkin' about that shyt way before they ever found a victim?

Like I said, we are working to a more perfect world, with that, human freedoms should be expected to progress and grow over time, because humans and societal methods should be progressing as well and more freedom would be a benefit of such. Victim blaming doesn't help with any of that and keep human freedoms in a very static place.

"Victim blaming"/"Risk assessment" doesn't make police more aware, or incite the want for more secure efforts. It just makes people make individual attempts at safety and makes criminals more desperate.

Criminals are looking for the opportunity. Not the victim.

So why be proactive at all if being good is the only criteria?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Explain what is wrong with his logic? Not saying he is right or wrong.

So instead of saying where he was wrong you just outright dismiss it? That's more fukk boy behavior than the dude tweeting.

If u want to stop rapes/assaults/murders, address rapists/assaulters/murderers

Telling people 'dont get raped/assaulted/mudered' is not addressing the root cause of the problem, and no problem is solved without its root being addressed.

For whatever reason there is a vocal contingent of men that adamantly refuses to confront/assign blame to/discuss male perpetuators of crime directly. There always has to be some justification. 'She shouldnt have been outside' 'The white man made him violent' 'If she had given him the p*ssy he wouldnt have to have done what he did' 'Im not saying its right but I agree with his reasoning' Etc etc

Plus it seems like brehs are OK with crimes like rape being a given and making no attempt to understand why people do it or what can be done to keep people from raping rather than defending against rape. Its pretty disgusting.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

So why be proactive at all if being good is the only criteria?

Intentionally misinterpret and wrongly summarize an opposing viewpoint brehs

 

[DaChampIsHere]

So why be proactive at all if being good is the only criteria?

Your post doesn't even mean/say anything in relation to mine bruh.

 

[Poitier]

If u want to stop rapes/assaults/murders, address rapists/assaulters/murderers

When did he say not to do this, smart guy?

Telling people 'dont get raped/assaulted/mudered' is not addressing the root cause of the problem, and no problem is solved without its root being addressed.

Lack reading comprehension brehs

Intentionally misinterpret and wrongly summarize an opposing viewpoint brehs

IRONY!!!

 

[Poitier]

Your post doesn't even mean/say anything in relation to mine bruh.

Sure it does. "Risk assessment" is a form of being proactive which you outright dismissed and stupidly used interchangeably with victim blaming

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

When did he say not to do this, smart guy?

Of course people shouldn't kill but that reasoning isn't in alignment with reality

As if there are no factors that create these kinds of criminals. The fact that crime has decreased over the past couple of decades shows it's something that can be addressed.

But why address the root of the problem, when we can blame the victims and not be forced to take a deep look at systematic internal issues in our community

 

[Poitier]

As if there are no factors that create these kinds of criminals. The fact that crime has decreased over the past couple of decades shows it's something that can be addressed.

Is it at 0?

But why address the root of the problem, when we can blame the victims and not be forced to take a deep look at systematic internal issues in our community

People can't do things in parallel? Common sense doesn't matter as long as you are a good person? Not to say all or even a majority are due to a lack of sense.

 

[The5thLetter]

Plus it seems like brehs are OK with crimes like rape being a given and making no attempt to understand why people do it or what can be done to keep people from raping rather than defending against rape. Its pretty disgusting.

Do you think we can ever get to a point where rape and other violent crimes will be eradicated?

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Sure it does. "Risk assessment" is a form of being proactive which you outright dismissed and stupidly used interchangeably with victim blaming

Nope. My post addresses that which is why it's slashed right there with victim blaming (ie. "Victim Blaming"/"Risk Assessment"). A slash (/) is symbolic for and or OR, meaning two things are same or similarly grouped. Victim blaming is basically telling victims to assess the amount of risk they put themselves in (Women should assess the risk of going out by themselves too late, or wearing something "sexy" before doing such because of crime) rather than shunning criminals altogether. Funny how logic works huh.

My original post actually makes perfect sense unless you don't know the definition of "risk" or "assessment" or you don't have the cognitive skills to see how victim blaming and risk assessment go hand in hand.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Is it at 0?

No, and it never will be. But if crime is a problem, what makes more sense... working to reduce crime, or telling people not to be victims of it?

People can't do things in parallel? Common sense doesn't matter as long as you are a good person? Not to say all or even a majority are due to a lack of sense.

Sure people can do things in parallel. Which is why I question your adamant refusal to talk about anything but "risk assessment". Why are you afraid to discuss what drives men to rape? The rest of your post is a strawman that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

 

[Joe Budden]

The truth is, there are a lot of men who enjoy the thought of rape. That is the only conclusion I can come up with. There is no way in hell you can victim blame a woman for getting raped unless you're just as sick as the rapist. Powerless men love saying shyt like "she brought it on herself" "her fault" because they secretly cheer that shyt on. We live in a sick world and we need to start addressing the problem early. All that pornography and rejection early on in life creates these men.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Do you think we can ever get to a point where rape and other violent crimes will be eradicated?

No, but we can make it much less of a problem by addressing it directly, rather than peripherally or passive aggressively through victim blaming.

Dudes like @Poitier go to a murder victim's funeral like "dude should have moved his body out of the way of the bullets " and act like they are addressing crime rationally and directly.

 

[Poitier]

Nope. My post addresses that which is why it's slashed right there with victim blaming (ie. "Victim Blaming"/"Risk Assessment"). A slash (/) is symbolic for and or OR, meaning two things are same or similarly grouped. Victim blaming is basically telling victims to assess the amount of risk they put themselves in (Women should assess the risk of going out by themselves too late, or wearing something "sexy" before doing such because of crime)

1 does not necessarily beget the other

rather than shunning criminals

Only if you have a reptilian brain

 

[Poitier]

Sure people can do things in parallel. Which is why I question your adamant refusal to talk about anything but "risk assessment". Why are you afraid to discuss what drives men to rape?

When have I refused to discus this? The literature on this abundant. The other side of the coin is outright dismissed which is what people contest.

The truth is, there are a lot of men who enjoy the thought of rape. That is the only conclusion I can come up with. There is no way in hell you can victim blame a woman for getting raped unless you're just as sick as the rapist. Powerless men love saying shyt like "she brought it on herself" "her fault" because they secretly cheer that shyt on. We live in a sick world and we need to start addressing the problem early. All that pornography and rejection early on in life creates these men.

A woman on xans and alcohol in a skimpy outfit on the 6 line at 4 am going to BX should not use better judgement.This does not absolve the rapist from any punishment.