Is Virginia the South?

[Spade]

I'm not even sure what this means. I measure everything in the South against the Tidewater region of VA because historically, that was the locus of all things Southern. Add in Charleston, Savannah, and New Orleans as coastal port cities - DC is not too dissimilar from them sans the fact that it's the nation's capital and will be a bit more cosmopolitan. Texas is a bit different because it's not very coastal but when you look at the South as being coastal and or river centric, you start to notice the similarities of the port cities or river-cities and see the similarities, because it was from these places that the "culture" of the South was birthed and then spread inward.

And to be clear, I definitely recognize a difference between the coastal areas of the Southern states and the more inland cities. But when I think of the South, I think about more of the coastal regions.

What I meant is the pace of DC is different. Also, the density is not matched in most Southern cities which includes the three you named. I believe DC has a density of 11000 people per square mile. Most Southern cities including the three you named aren't even half as dense.

 

[BigMan]

They didn't you this in America history or geography class

Nah they never in English class neither

 

[Dontay Flaco]

It's most def the south.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

I still cannot fathom why people insist that Virginia isn't in the South.

If you live in Nova, take your ass on 66 West... you'll realize that it's very much the south once you get outside of the immediate DC suburbs.

 

[BigMan]

I still cannot fathom why people insist that Virginia isn't in the South.

If you live in Nova, take your ass on 66 West... you'll realize that it's very much the south once you get outside of the immediate DC suburbs.

why would i do that

 

[Spade]

If you're talking about Fairfax, Arlington, Loundon.. then I agree, mostly white, very little diversity.

But in my area, def. not way less blacks, it's more diverse than that. way less blacks to me would mean like 5% or less (in that case, I wouldn't be living there anyway).
White Non-Hispanic Alone (43.7%)

• Hispanic or Latino (22.9%)

• Black Non-Hispanic Alone (19.9%)

yeah if you go around route 1, that area is anything but white. very diverse area. Same with areas around Route 236 in Annandale.

 

[VirginiaSlim75]

Hell yea we the South

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

why would i do that

Some people don't realize that notion of not living in the south goes away quite fast when you're on that highway.

Apparently, people think that just cause they live around white folks who make good money, are into politics and social issues and have college degrees...they don't live in the south.

 

[IShotTheSheriff]

VA is the South. DC is the South. And Maryland is technically the South but I'll give it mid-Atlantic.

DC technically takes land from both VA and Maryland as it's not a "state" but a "district"

Hench, if you consider those two to be southern, you must consider Maryland to be the south as well.

 

[BigMan]

Some people don't realize that notion of not living in the south goes away quite fast when you're on that highway.

Apparently, people think that just cause they live around white folks who make good money, are into politics and social issues and have college degrees...they don't live in the south.

You sound upset buddy. ain't nothing for me past Centreville

 

[Akae Beka]

It doesn't have that cultural feel of the south. Hispanics, west and east Africans, Somali, West Indians, transplants, military etc has made it feel entirely different, especially in Arlington, Alexandria. Hardly see native born black americans. I've been living here since 05, after spending a stint in 97 coming from the caribbean. I'm strictly talking about northern va though, after Dumfries, there's a real southern feeling, especially with that big ass conferate flag you can see on 95 south through Stafford . Manassas can feel country as well. Matter of fact on Sunday I had to drive to culpeper for a training class and took the back roads and saw some many homes with confederate flags, might as well said " niggr best be happy you don't catch a flat"


But overall, I get why people say there's a N oVA and RoVa. The later meaning Rest of Virginia.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Yeah. If we being technical then so is Maryland

Maryland is the Mid-Atlantic.

The Eastern Shore and Charles,Calvert, and St. Marys county have a southern feel to them...Western Maryland is Appalachia...but it's not the South.

 

[invalid]

DC technically takes land from both VA and Maryland as it's not a "state" but a "district"

Hench, if you consider those two to be southern, you must consider Maryland to be the south as well.

Very aware of the history of DC. I have old ties to Georgetown where I had ancestors born there enslaved. Georgetown, at the time, was annexed to Maryland. I broke it down in that manner to compliment the way that OP worded it in his post. However, I did say that Maryland was Southern but could possibly be put it in the category of Mid-Atlantic (which it is technically as some consider it part of a buffer zone between New England and the South). That consideration was based on Annapolis/Eastern Shore, which feels a bit more like New England than the rest of the state to me.

 

[Jean Jacket]

South. They'll let you know it too if you're close to that NC state line in those backwoods hick towns. I stopped for gas (why the fukk did I do that) at one of those clayton bigsby "you lost fella?" gas stations on the state line. Could cut the tension with a knife. Got like 20 and dipped, kept my strap and bullets near me on the way out of the parking lot. Drove 45 mins north and it was like I was in normal civilization where Black folks were out and about...got the rest of my gas. This was around 12am-2am.

fukk all that noise. Gimme Hampton Roads, Richmond or NoVA.

 

[David_TheMan]

Virginia is blue blood southerners.
That is where the richest and most educated southerners resided and still do.
Same shyt different day though.
If they serve sweet tea, real sweet tea, in a state its the south.