Is Westbrook a Top 10 All-Time PG?

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At this stage, he's winding down Year 12 and about to make his ninth All-NBA team, this is after looking done at the end of last year...

Typically, not in order just alphabetically, this is the general consensus on Top 10 points:

Bob Cousy, Steph Curry, Jason Kidd, Magic Johnson, Steve Nash, Gary Payton, Chris Paul, Oscar Robertson, John Stockton, Isiah Thomas....

Where does Westbrook fit in this group?

Full disclosure, I'm a Stan, but an objective one. 12 years in, I think once great players cross a decade in it's appropriate to start having legacy conversation. He's a difficult placement in my opinion because his game is markedly different from most of the All-Time points...

I saw about the last 8 years of GP's career, I won't speak too much on him because I didn't see quite half of his career and don't believe I saw him at his very peak. My general impression is he was really good but I never thought he was extraordinary...

I saw the entire careers, or close to, of Curry, Kidd, Nash, and CP3, so I'm completely comfortable speaking on all of them. Kidd is one of the more overrated players I can think of, Russ is definitely better than him...

So off the rip Russ is one of the four greatest points I've ever seen, which should probably be enough to make him Top 10 All-Time. His impact and resume won't catch Steph, so I'm cool with that. I think he's in the same bucket with CP3 and Nash, thin margin separating those three guys, I can buy an argument for any one of those three. For all the guys I didn't see, how high up would you place Russ, and if he isn't Top 10 yet, what does he have to do to get into that club?
 

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Magic Johnson
Steph Curry
Isiah Thomas
Chris Paul
John Stockton
Jason Kidd
Oscar Robertson
Steve Nash
If we include Jerry West and AI, then it becomes a debate, because some will argue that Kidd, Nash or Big O wasn't on his level.

If we don't include them, then it's pretty much an open and shut case. So yes, I think he's now a top 10 all-time PG.

Lillard's gonna be right on his ass tho if he can keep his current pace up for 3 or 4 more years.
 

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I think Sam cassell was better than John Stockton. In fact there’s a a lot of pga I’d choose before Stockton but I m ow he has the longevity and numbers but. Kevin Smith, billups, hell even baron davis I would choose over Stockton

I absolutely agree, but the numbers speak for themselves.

It's kind of like how Westbrook is already top 10 statistically as a point guard while never being THE point guard in his era. If I had to pick one for my team I'd easily pick Kyrie, or Dame over Westbrook even though they are lower on the PG hierarchy historically.
 

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I absolutely agree, but the numbers speak for themselves.

It's kind of like how Westbrook is already top 10 statistically as a point guard while never being THE point guard in his era. If I had to pick one for my team I'd easily pick Kyrie, or Dame over Westbrook even though they are lower on the PG hierarchy historically.
I thought Russ was overrated but after seeing him this year when a team and gm actually catered a gameplan to him, he’s better than I though I
He was. Okc never built a team around him with good players with skill. Dude averaging 30, 8, and 8 on near 50% shooting with a real coach and a real gameplan presented to get the most out of him. Dude doing this on the wrong side of 30.
 
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