Isiah killin Pippen and Shaq shyttin on Georgetown centers on Open Court

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GilSho said:
Same here. A lot of dudes here don't share the same opinion though.
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Yeah, for me, the Steve Nash doesn't deserve MVPs shyt is an in retrospect type of argument. When the smoke settled and the dust cleared, and you realize Steve Nash never went to the Finals, and ended up with more MVPs than Shaq and Kobe, Iverson, Kidd, Garnett, Dirk, etc., even though all of those guys were better than him, then yeah, you say he didn't "deserve" them. But if you watched the NBA those couple of years, he was the league MVP those seasons... and Shaq's only argument was for that first MVP; the second year Nash won it LeBron, Kobe, etc., had arguments for winning it but Shaq sure as hell didn't. And on some real shyt, Nash could've won the MVP the year Dirk won too and I wouldn't have had a real issue with it.

It's rare anyway that one player is just so far and ahead for the MVP that nobody's gonna argue against it anyway; LeBron a couple of years back was an example.
 
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mastermind said:
Also, I have to see what Shaq said about GTown centers but those dudes were offensively mechanical and stiff. THey got their rep because bigmen came to the school and became NBA players. Nothing is wrong with that, but those guys were stiff jumpshooters on offense.
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He was dead on with that fake and running hook cause they all did that. Zo my second favorite player ever but his offensive game was so damn stiff.
 
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KOBE said:
speaking of the top 50 players of all time list...they need to redo that list. it's been nearly 20 years. :jbhmm:
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The Open Court top 50 show was one of my favorites. Just watched it again a couple days ago. I wonder if they'd have the balls to take players off the list to replace them with current players or if they'd just wait until the 75th year and create top 75 list.
 
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Yeah, for me, the Steve Nash doesn't deserve MVPs shyt is an in retrospect type of argument. When the smoke settled and the dust cleared, and you realize Steve Nash never went to the Finals, and ended up with more MVPs than Shaq and Kobe, Iverson, Kidd, Garnett, Dirk, etc., even though all of those guys were better than him, then yeah, you say he didn't "deserve" them. But if you watched the NBA those couple of years, he was the league MVP those seasons... and Shaq's only argument was for that first MVP; the second year Nash won it LeBron, Kobe, etc., had arguments for winning it but Shaq sure as hell didn't. And on some real shyt, Nash could've won the MVP the year Dirk won too and I wouldn't have had a real issue with it.

It's rare anyway that one player is just so far and ahead for the MVP that nobody's gonna argue against it anyway; LeBron a couple of years back was an example.
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The first year was Shaq's first in Miami and he helped bump them up to a 59 win team. Nash won it due to being the new kid on the block and the Suns being successful. He got credit for the leaps Stat, Marion, and Joe Johnson made and for the Suns winning as much as they did. Not to mention Nash's defensive liabilities. I thought there was a good argument at the time for Shaq to be MVP and definitely looking back it should've been his considering how loaded those Suns teams were.
 
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DetroitEWarren said:
I remember a story from my mama about how Isiah kicked her out of a party cause she caught that nikka snorting a line:mjlol:. Til this day she hates Zeke. She said Magic had to check Zeke about that cause she was Magic's guest. Idk if true but I know fasho that my OG was besties with Magic in college so it's not far fetched.

She hates that I'm an Isiah fan:mjlol:
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She was at one of Magic's "parties"? :shaq:
 
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The first year was Shaq's first in Miami and he helped bump them up to a 59 win team. Nash won it due to being the new kid on the block and the Suns being successful. He got credit for the leaps Stat, Marion, and Joe Johnson made and for the Suns winning as much as they did. Not to mention Nash's defensive liabilities. I thought there was a good argument at the time for Shaq to be MVP and definitely looking back it should've been his considering how loaded those Suns teams were.
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I agree with you; at the time I argued to the death Shaq was the winner. I still think Shaq SHOULD have won that MVP; but I don't think it's ridiculous that Nash won it. The fact the Suns lost those games Nash sit out, his team won more games than the Heat, and the Heat kinda fizzled at the end, plus the surprise (and the :mjpls: of course) pretty much solidified that award for son.
 
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King Poetic said:
They showed that clip of pippen saying that shyt and I don't blame zeke.

Pippen was getting is hoe card pulled in them playoffs and nikka still crying about it...
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Exactly. Pippen didn't have enough NBA stock during that time to even make such demands.

Folks were still pissed he got chosen over Nique
 
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