There's levels. Jordan was in the league since 85'. What was doing against those Celtics and Pistons teams then?
What is Jordan playoff records against those 2 teams?
There's levels. Their prime were the 80s. Jordan prime were the 90s. Other than the Dream, doing that era teams were alil soft. The league got soft for the most part. LAimbeer and Parrish had a fight on the court and neither got suspended. Different eras
I've said it before. The Pistons run from 87-90 was better than either Bulls 3Peat run. It just was. That's no knock on Jordan because he's the true GOAT but it was
stop lying to yourself.
the pistons run was only good because they used laimbeer's idea he was the biggest most pure white guy out with a background. As he had this thing about him because his pops was a somebody in the expensive segregated illinois burbs and laimbeer thought in his head. He was the greatest white boy on earth because of this. Which is why laimbeer acts in the Bridgeport meets suburban manner.
in which he is welled in.
So, laimbeer used that privileged self confidence ideal and attitude. to his benefit to neutralize the idea of bird being this great white mid atlantic pr'd thing. Plus neutralized the mental and referee in the pocket aspect of the Celtics play. Which was also a huge part of the kc led celts game.
plus and how they, or the celts would typically beat you. which was by mentally beating you.
in every regard from visual/physical cues, to mental cognitive mini real time gamesmanship as well.
So Yes the part that was brilliant.
was the pistons beat the black coach kc jones led celts at the socalled parochial vs public school game mental mind game.
that played out in weird dynamics team to team in the pros.
namely the celts always generally had this advantage and it always came into play in outcome of games versus any team. The pistons were the first to just play heads up play. similar to the celts in the mind game and parochial vs public regard.
In that is how or why i believe the pistons played the bulla so dirty and anyone So dirty. Imo, the pistons as a unit and team mantra felt...that at the time.
the only way they would win.
was if they had to go to the same lengths, they did to beat the Celts.
when in reality the pistons were dishing out and countering.
exactly the same style and systemic mental/physical intimidation brand of play of the celtics. So imo the pistons solving the full puzzle of the celts. Plus beating them at their own mind games.
is exactly why the pistons were the way they were. Plus, the pistons made it their time.
to mostly anyone paying attention then. When in reality the Celtics were on a time. Where everything was literally theirs and others were renting space. So the pistons beating the celts made them the way they were. Which in result made them act that way to the bulls. As the pistons knew they were on from beating the celts at the mini games. Others in the league were not going to win at.
which is why they hated mj because mj had figured out completely understaffed with just and only john paxson. What to do to contest the celts. Plus how to damn near beat them understaffed and as a lone wolf. Which was a threat to the whole league. As the league was built off of stockpiling assets in the red Auerbach style of league dominance. That still existed in that era. Mj had changed that dynamic and the pistons were trying to close the window on the celts. PLUs anyone in contention to them.
of which the bulls had ramped from getting owned by the Cavs at the time via the shot. Which for mj and the bulls was a warning shot to any and everyone. Mj could figure out singlehandidly under the most duress. With no odds of winning at all to actually win.
the pistons were shook of that. As they knew, scouted and formulated Jordan rules. To eliminate the dynamic mj could change the league mantras and scenarios. Regardless of the past and what occurred atypically on tgr NBA hardwood. Which was an immediate threat to the pistons. As the pistons were one in the same with the bulls. As far as figuring out how to best a nemesis.
, without any real assets on paper.
that would typically illicit a change of the guard.
art barr