Trajan
Veteran
Breh they may have turned a blind eye to it at one point but the Saudi govt really doesn't fukk with terrorism.
Not post-9/11 anyway.
What makes you think they're not against terrorism?
Breh they may have turned a blind eye to it at one point but the Saudi govt really doesn't fukk with terrorism.
Not post-9/11 anyway.
What makes you think they're not against terrorism?
They are the same and have been proven to be the same.
Ritzy Sharon
Don't Make Me Pull The Oud Out
KSA is the epicenter of modern Islamist terrorism.
from Boko Haram to the Taliban to Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines, these militants & terrorists have been indoctrinated, radicalized and sectarianized in Saudi funded madrassas. Jamal the Jihadi didn't just wake up one morning and say "I'm going to behead a Shiite today
".
they may not be putting the knife in his hand, but they have perverted Islam to such a degree that it's tearing the Ummah to shreds, and it may never recover tbh.
from Boko Haram to the Taliban to Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines, these militants & terrorists have been indoctrinated, radicalized and sectarianized in Saudi funded madrassas. Jamal the Jihadi didn't just wake up one morning and say "I'm going to behead a Shiite today
".they may not be putting the knife in his hand, but they have perverted Islam to such a degree that it's tearing the Ummah to shreds, and it may never recover tbh.
The questions that should be asked is how are these Americans going into war-torn countries and fighting with a regular passport and a visa with Syria embassy and not being tracked?
USSInsiders
Banned
Don't worry, war is coming n/h very soon. I have a bad feeling there's going to be an attack in the U.S. very soon that will be blamed on ISIS. Cue the invasion of Syria.
They're going through Turkey
Turkey requires Visas. They are trained at Turkey or Jordan with the help of U.S. and illegally placed over the border.
The blame will be put on Assad or Iran. The claim is ISIS is working with Assad and there is no evidence that exist.
USSInsiders
Banned
Most of these ISIS dudes are probably some of the foreign fighters we were funding and training to fight Assad's regime in the first place
They are from Libya, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Iraq, and a dozen more countries.
USSInsiders
Banned
Indeed. Not in a fukked up way, but I'm curious to see what's next once they realize the Foley beheading angle isn't going to be enough to get it popping. That one white dude predicting a false flag on the upcoming 9/11 anniversary was pretty chilling and creepy.
The real reason why the US and France are back in Iraq
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-12/real-reason-new-us-and-french-military-involvement-iraqWhy is Obama now re-committing the U.S. military to Iraq? Why is France strongly backing military action?
Obama says it’s to protect minorities. That’s nothing new. Obama is the fourth president in a row to bomb Iraq … while claiming it is for humanitarian purposes.
But the architects of the Iraq War (the one which started in 2003) themselves admitted it was about oil.
But what about now? Why are the U.S. and France deploying military force in Iraq now?
Well, ISIS captured some key oil fields in the Kurdish region of Iraq on August 3rd.
Mere days later, the U.S. started bombing ISIS.
And the strikes were targeted in protecting oil resources. As International Business Times notes:
Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby tweeted: “US military aircraft conduct strike on Isil [Islamic State] artillery. Artillery was used against Kurdish forces defending Erbil, near US personnel.”
Two F-18 fighters dropped laser-guided 500-pound bombs on the mobile artillery target. Militants of the Islamic State were using artillery that has been abandoned by the Iraqi army when it fled to shell Kurdish forces defending the regional capital of Kurdistan.
US airstrikes were very small and very targeted and the Peshmerga Kurdistan forces are waiting for more strikes by the US fighter jets, according to reports.
Similarly, the Military Times reported yesterday:
The Pentagon’s top war planner … Army Lt. Gen. William Mayville, the director of operations, or “J-3” for the Joint Staff [said] “I think in the immediate areas where we have focused our strikes, we have had a very temporary effect … and we may have blunted some [ISIL] tactical decisions to move in those directions further east toward Erbil,” Mayville said.
“However, these strikes are unlikely to affect ISIL’s overall capabilities or its operations in other areas of Iraq and Syria,” he said.
Obama authorized the airstrikes for two specific purposes. One mission is to prevent an ISIL advance into the city of Erbil ….
It should be noted, initially, that months of murder, mayhem and brutality by ISIS on Christians and other minorities didn’t cause the U.S. or France to intervene militarily for “humanitarian” reasons.
And notice that the airstrikes were very targeted on protecting Erbil … the regional capital of Kurdistan.
The U.S. and France have never lifted a finger to protect the Kurds. Indeed, the U.S. has actively betrayed the Kurds and let them be slaughtered. For example, during the Gulf War, the U.S. called on the Kurds to rise up against Saddam (implying that he would protect them), but then let Saddam slaughter the Kurds en masse.
So why are the U.S. and France moving now to protect Erbil?
Because Erbil has now become a major oil center. The Kurdish government estimates that the region is the world’s 9th largest oil producer.
Oil companies from around the world operate in Kurdistan, including (major oil companies are indicated in bold, U.S. and French oil companies in italics):
USA
France
- Exxon Mobil
- Chevron
- Aspect Energy
- Marathon Oil Corporation
- Hillwood International Energy
- Hunt Oil
- Prime Oil
- Murphy Oil
- Hess Corporation
- HKN Energy
- Viking International
Canada
- Total
South Korea
- Forbes and Manhattan
- Western Zagros Resources
- Talisman Energy Inc
- NIKO Resources
- Ground Star
- Shamaran
Turkey
- Korea National Oil Company (KNOC)
Britain
- Genel Energy
- Petoil
- Dogan
Anglo-French
- Gulf Keystone Petroleum
- Sterling Energy
- Heritage Oil
UAE
- Perenco
Austria
- TAQA
- Dana Petroleum
China
- OMV
Hungary
- China acquired a significant presence in Iraqi Kurdistan after Sinopec Group bought Addax Petroleum in 2009.
India
- MOL
Papua New Guinea
- Reliance Industries
Russia
- Oil Search
Norway
- Norbest
- Gazprom Neft
Iraq
- DNO
Spain
- Oil Search (Iraq) Limited
- Kar Group
- Qaiwan Group
Independent
- Repsol
Yup … with Chevron, Exxon, Marathon, Hess and Total operating major facilities in Erbil, the latest Iraq war is also about oil … as confirmed by the
- AFREN
New Yorker, New Republic and Vox.
For those who don’t believe that Iraqi oil is driving foreign policy, take a look at what Brookings wrote in June:
It should be obvious that a key consideration for the United States arising from [the seizure of huge swaths of Iraq by ISIS] is its potential to affect Iraqi oil production.
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Any significant disruption of current Iraqi oil production or long-term diminution in its expected growth could have major repercussions for the U.S. economy.
Kurdistan also possesses approximately 89% of all Iraqi natural gas reserves. And so the West – including France – is eager to protect Kurdish hydrocarbons from falling into the hands of ISIS.
Postscript: Indeed, virtually all U.S. wars involve a fight over hydrocarbons.
Nomad1
Tupac KONY and GOAT
ikr Qatar, UAE, and SA, all funding ISISthey also comfortable funding groups outside their borders to fight shias
Saudis only primed the pump in 2012.
ISIS does not require Saudi or khaleejis money now and they don't get a steady funding from gulf govts, they have lucrative oil deals with Assad and Turkey.