Israeli Academic: Raping Palestinian Women Would Deter Future Attacks

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Only thing up my alley is the realization you edited your post from conceding that rape is condoned in the OT ( almost 24 hours after submitting ) to what I just quoted now. Have you no integrity in this matter?

What I edited was Deut. 22:25 (KJV):

But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:

:sas2:

Keep trying. You don't know the text well enough to debate the issue and google won't help you.

LOL @ 'conceding'. Put the weed down. Your entire argument is based on a lie.​
 
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I did no such thing. I edited my post to say what I said. There is no condoning of rape in the OT. You're welcome to try and find it, though.

:sas2:

OK funk doc. We'll pretend we didn't see your original post that referenced rape being condoned in other passages of the OT.

I already referenced two of them in this post. I chose those two because they are relevant to the the topic: war and rape as a tool of conquest. In both passages I quoted, the Judeo-Christian god is explicitly condoning the forceful taking of women in enemy territories after victory.

Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves

Im sure they weren't raped. Moving on:

When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

Enjoy the spoils. I'm sure he means treat those women with equal respect and provide a comfortable living for each of them. Moving on:

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT

Nasty shyt. Condones rape with the only "punishment" being paying her father like she's a whore and then forcing her into engagement against her will.

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24

Speaks for itself.

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again

Condones prostitution, slavery and rape here in Exodus.

What a petty god. You figured he of all beings would have the foresight and wisdom to understand that rape shouldn't be condoned or that women have rights. Some of this makes the Quran look liberal. :huhldup:
 

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OK funk doc. We'll pretend we didn't see your original post that referenced rape being condoned in other passages of the OT.

We don't have to because it isn't and I didn't.

The rest of your post was inconsequential and just plain stupid since there's no 'rape' condoned.

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We don't have to because it isn't and I didn't.

The rest of your post was inconsequential and just plain stupid since there's no 'rape' mentioned.​

Your post had been edited. It shows it right there. Demonstrates your lack of integrity on the matter. In the original post you referenced other parts of the ot condoning rape, such as this passage:

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father.

Notice the word rape there explicitly. The others I quoted merely explicitly imply rape without using the word.

What a petty god.
 

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Your post had been edited. It shows it right there. Demonstrates your lack of integrity on the matter. In the original post you referenced other parts of the ot condoning rape, such as this passage:

LOL, I re-wrote what I edited. Lying ain't gonna keep you from being stomped on this issue.​

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Notice the word rape there explicitly. The others I quoted merely explicitly imply rape without using the word.

What a petty god.

LOL, what a petty person to use a bad translation as if it were authentic. Here's what the verse actually states:

Deuteronomy 22:28 (KJV)

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

No 'rape' there but you're welcome to keep making a fool of yourself.

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Reading Is Fundamental.​
Numbers 31:7-18King James Version (KJV)
7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.

8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword.

9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.

10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.

11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.

12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.

14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.

15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?

16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.



Read more at https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers 31:7-18&version=KJV#cmMK1FTXFr6CC26v.99

shyt's real, man. It's already been posted above, but damn. Kill all the adult men, kill all the children who are male. Kill all the adult women. Enslave, rape and impregnate all the children who are female. God said so. No editing, no bowdlerizing, no euphemisms, no bullshyt.

God said to kill adult civilians. God said to kill civilian children. God said to rape civilian children. God said so (well, Moses claimed God said so, but whatever).

Yeshua must have had one hell of a trip to India and back, to be born of this crap but to come out so gentle and egalitarian.

The people of Israel are not of Yeshua. Those who claim to follow Yeshua, but turn their heads while Israel commits atrocities, are not of Yeshua.
 

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shyt's real, man. It's already been posted above, but damn. Kill all the adult men, kill all the children who are male. Kill all the adult women. Enslave, rape and impregnate all the children who are female. God said so. No editing, no bowdlerizing, no euphemisms, no bullshyt.

God said to kill adult civilians. God said to kill civilian children. God said to rape civilian children. God said so.

Here's the thing: There's NO condoning of 'rape' or 'impregnating female children' anywhere in what you posted or what was posted earlier.

Keep looking, though. Actually reading the text makes things a lot easier to understand rather than copy-n'-pasting.

Eisegesis isn't valid for the purposes of interpretation.

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I can't imagine what God has in store for people like these :birdman:

Milk and honey.

:yeshrug: Just doing what God tells them to do, because God promises a reward if you do. Who were the people of the Bible who were nothing but gentle kindness and open armed welcome, and the children of God thought they were suckers for following guest law and thinking the children of God were allies, so the suckers got wiped out? cuz God said it was cool?
 
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Only thing up my alley is the realization you edited your post from conceding that rape is condoned in the OT ( almost 24 hours after submitting ) to what I just quoted now. Have you no integrity in this matter?

I don't know what Socratic method he's using -- and if it ain't it should be. It's still not productive, if it's only meant to troll, though.
 

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LOL, I re-wrote what I edited. Lying ain't gonna keep you from being stomped on this issue.​



LOL, what a petty person to use a bad translation as if it were authentic. Here's what the verse actually states:

Deuteronomy 22:28 (KJV)

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

No 'rape' there but you're welcome to keep making a fool of yourself.

:sas2:

Yes, that would be considered rape. Only if you think a man has complete dominion and say when sex occurs that it is not rape. So it appears the judeo-christian petty god didn't have the foresight and wisdom to understand women's rights and consent, despite being the alpha and omega. It appears he had a mental block of women''s civil rights movements of the no-so-distant future. Telling soldiers that after victory god allows them to take their women and do with them (enjoy the spoils) as they wish is considered rape and abuse as well. In those same passages, petty god also condones warfare, genocide, and killing of infants (with a couple of infants killed by him directly).

It's no wonder that Zionists think they are in the right. As god's chosen people, they have been instructed their god condones the things we are seeing today in Gaza, as well as using rape as a tool of war as the man in the original article stated.

petty uncivilized people tend to create petty gods.
 

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Except....it isn't.

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Except, that it is. Most of the world went through a stage where we realized women have rights and have a say in consenting to sex or marriage. The places, communities and groups in the modern world that don't recognize this are often seen as antiquated and immoral.

It appears that when the petty judeo-christian god condoned rape, he didn't have the wisdom to look ahead a few thousand years so his human creations could teach him about proper consent and women's rights. Silly god.
 
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