"It ain't them that's killing us, it's us that's killing us" - Tupac Shakur

[sicksoulja]

LEGEND TBE, Pac saying exactly how I feel.

The white man getting cocky in shyt killing us right in front of our faces and getting away with it. Now we rising to stop it which we will, there will be all these laws on shyt stopping Cops from killing us. We'll make progress from it now what? They just made us feel like we did something made a difference in shyt. Now back to the real issue.

The system is setting us up to fail, it's setting us up for us to kill each other. Plant all these drugs in shyt in our poor neighborhoods and just watch us exterminate each other. Until we stop this shyt and rise as a race we always going to be exactly what we are. Yeah we have made progress but shyt it will be another 100 years before we get to a point where we respect ourselves more than them. This chess not checkers people, we playing checkers with this BLM shyt and they playing Chess because the whole thing is eralavent if we keep killing ourselves.

Game and Snoop coming together with police in shyt. Pac would have never did that, had Pac been alive today breh would have been in the hood preaching to us.

 

[SunZoo]

@bigbadbossup2012

I try to approach the convo from a serious angle and you call me a bytch and start quoting Pac lyrrics at me like I, of all people don't know them already.

Nevermind my nikka, you either missed my point (morso about the hypocrisy of the fans, less about Pac or Kendrick) or you're really that stupid.

Either way, I ain't mad at cha.

 

[Black_Panther_JS]

"And they tell me it's the white man I should fear, but it's my own kind doing all the killing here" 2Pac

I can't lie, ain't no love for the other side

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

@bigbadbossup2012

I try to approach the convo from a serious angle and you call me a bytch and start quoting Pac lyrrics at me like I, of all people don't know them already.

Nevermind my nikka, you either missed my point (morso about the hypocrisy of the fans, less about Pac or Kendrick) or you're really that stupid.

Either way, I ain't mad at cha.

i Called u a bytch cause i expect you to know better at your age and i didnt like the fact that you were talking as if some shyt had went over my head and disrespecting my comprehension skills.

My point is that it makes perfect sense for people to call out kendrick
And zero sense to call out tupac.
And i think i've proven that

 

[Po pimp]

Who gives a fukk. Bottom line is pac was saying real blatant shyt and kendrick NEVER DOES unless he's calling out black people for being "hypocrites"
And that was my point with my post. Is that kendrick is nothing like pac or cube or any of them throwback nikkas

I grew up on 90s rap. Pac is my favorite rapper of all time. Of course Kendrick will never compare to him in my eyes. Point is, as much as things are the same, it's still a different climate from the 90s. The reason Pac was able to do what he did is because of those who preceded him. Kendrick didn't grow up like Pac, and he was born in 1987. It's unfair to compare him to dudes who are literally old enough to be his pops.

The reason I pointed out that Black-Mexican alliance thing is instead of looking at the big picture, people nowadays would take Pac mentioning that in a few songs and say he was wrong. That's why I don't pay attention to these retroactive cats.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I grew up on 90s rap. Pac is my favorite rapper of all time. Of course Kendrick will never compare to him in my eyes. Point is, as much as things are the same, it's still a different climate from the 90s. The reason Pac was able to do what he did is because of those who preceded him. Kendrick didn't grow up like Pac, and he was born in 1987. It's unfair to compare him to dudes who are literally old enough to be his pops.

The reason I pointed out that Black-Mexican alliance thing is instead of looking at the big picture, people nowadays would take Pac mentioning that in a few songs and say he was wrong. That's why I don't pay attention to these retroactive cats.

But your point has nothing to do with nothing (the mexican shyt)
Kendrick cant have a pass,he's splicing old pac interviews acting like pac's talking to him. He cant do that and get a pass at the same damn time. He's a legit fraud

 

[FakeNews]

I can't lie, ain't no love for the other side

 

[Danie84]

HE told Us the ugly truth, while enlightening US to get thru this CaC Man'z World

 

[CarltonJunior]

Yet when Kendrick/Q said it on their albums everyone wanna claim

 

[SunZoo]

i Called u a bytch cause i expect you to know better at your age and i didnt like the fact that you were talking as if some shyt had went over my head and disrespecting my comprehension skills.

My point is that it makes perfect sense for people to call out kendrick
And zero sense to call out tupac.
And i think i've proven that

I disagree with the bold. And I clarified OP's statement because it seemed like you made it more about how real Pac was and less about how fake/fickle the fans are this day and age and how the response to such a thing might be received differently.

You also alluded to the fact that Pac could get away with saying that because his catalog had multiple songs already addressing similar things, he had consistency. It's one thing for an artist like say a Young Thug to come out the blue and say that shyt but Kendrick has had consistency with political commentary as well, regardless of how potent YOU think it is or isn't. Certainly enough material in that vein for the people hearing it to know his intent (again, sans Pac comparisons) and still jumping to the c00n shyt because the focus wasn't soely on external threats.

And let's be reality, you're saying it makes perfect sense to call Kendrick out and not Pac due to the quality/potency of his social commentary or it being too vague...but would make no sense to do the same to Pac when objectively a lot of Pac's actions could be viewed in conflict with his evident love of his people. Now on a personal level I understand the nuance, but I don't think "His song ain't vintage Cube/Pac" is more grounds to call Kendrick out than some of Pac's behavior, even if you understood the method behind the madness.

Again we not talking about how much of a Kendrick fan you aren't, we're talking about how Pac's words and actions would be percieved removed from the nostalgia...even people back then spoke on him being a hypocrite, you think they wouldn't point out him bangin on nikkas and "what about black on black crime" him for making that statement NOW? They would....and they would be just as disingenuous as when they did it to K-Dot.

 

[spliz]

how are people acting like the Kendrick and Pac shyt is even remotely the same? When Kendrick was asked about the police brutality. He went to that "what about black on black crime" shyt. It's about CONTEXT. Pac shot 2 white cops in defense of a black man. Spoke on police brutality and racism consistently. In the context of him saying what he says. U can't question his motives. He spoke on all of it constantly. In his music and outside of his music. People quoting his rhymes out of context of the verse and/or the song and running with it. With everything Pac has done. There's really no mistaking his motives. What has Kendrick really done or some of these cats yall tryna compare? Pac risked his life, his freedom and his career for a black man. And consistently spoke on issues. No contest.

 

[B86]

You know that line and the "And they its police I should fear, but its my own kind doing all the killing here" on only god can judge me had me thinking in this climate would people call Pac a new black DESPITE the fact there is so much evidence to prove otherwise and he called out the police for the treatment of black people even literally acting out against them and was acquitted.
Cause what kills me nowadays like with the Kendrick shyt was that people only took one line or one thing and flipped and didnt look at the person's other opinons on stuff and labeled them a c00n. Maybe in this climate Pac would get some dumb unnecessary heat but I also gotta believe if he was alive today he would be the most vocal against the police in his mid-40s still (depending on how he would have grown, cause to be fair we saw a difference in him after he joined Death Row but still that activism was there on some level even with the Bullshyt)

In this day and age, if Pac were to say the same shyt he would be called a c00n, this and that. I've just accepted the fact that nikkas will never admit their faults and will always act like there isn't a problem within our communities

 

[Nomad1]

You know that line and the "And they its police I should fear, but its my own kind doing all the killing here"

I can't lie, ain't no love for the other side
Jealousy inside, make em wish I died

Pac said it in the next line he dont give a fukk about cacs either way

 

[Ol’Otis]

gotta stop with K.Dot and Pac comparison

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I disagree with the bold. And I clarified OP's statement because it seemed like you made it more about how real Pac was and less about how fake/fickle the fans are this day and age and how the response to such a thing might be received differently.

You also alluded to the fact that Pac could get away with saying that because his catalog had multiple songs already addressing similar things, he had consistency. It's one thing for an artist like say a Young Thug to come out the blue and say that shyt but Kendrick has had consistency with political commentary as well, regardless of how potent YOU think it is or isn't. Certainly enough material in that vein for the people hearing it to know his intent (again, sans Pac comparisons) and still jumping to the c00n shyt because the focus wasn't soely on external threats.

And let's be reality, you're saying it makes perfect sense to call Kendrick out and not Pac due to the quality/potency of his social commentary or it being too vague...but would make no sense to do the same to Pac when objectively a lot of Pac's actions could be viewed in conflict with his evident love of his people. Now on a personal level I understand the nuance, but I don't think "His song ain't vintage Cube/Pac" is more grounds to call Kendrick out than some of Pac's behavior, even if you understood the method behind the madness.

Again we not talking about how much of a Kendrick fan you aren't, we're talking about how Pac's words and actions would be percieved removed from the nostalgia...even people back then spoke on him being a hypocrite, you think they wouldn't point out him bangin on nikkas and "what about black on black crime" him for making that statement NOW? They would....and they would be just as disingenuous as when they did it to K-Dot.

bytch this aint got nothing to do with nostalgia.
And my point is kendrick has been faux political his whole career.
And the song you named check was a prime example.
Kendrick has only pretended to be political so he can be "anti"
the current climate,but he's not really saying ANYTHING but a bunch of vague non direct bullshyt when it comes to CAC oppression upon us.
And he's always been that way.
So he cant get that fukk shyt off,period.
Kendrick treats these cacs with kid gloves.
Let him make a statement about some wild shyt that happens in current cac world that might legit make them mad.
He won't he's not built like that.
Did kendrick make any statements about them cops in dallas ,that might offend the man?
Of course not
That boy shook.
He's just a common swag rapper that pretends to "say something" just to be "anti"
He's really saying nothing
And for the record,it is based off how real pac was.
You too lame to know.
Are you white,cant remember?