it might sound blasphemous but i think j dilla was better than pete rock :yeshrug:

[Tetris v2.0]

Dilla never had the chance to fall off. If anything, he died at his peak when he was most creative and that's why people remember him so fondly

 

[IllmaticDelta]

 

[I love Latina women]

Dilla never had the chance to fall off. If anything, he died at his peak when he was most creative and that's why people remember him so fondly

i hear you, but then again look at when he started
dilla's tracks was comin' out in 95'
he died in 06'
in those 11 years, dilla showed no signs of fallin' off
it's not like he had just started before he died
he was only gettin' better at the time of his death though

 

[IllmaticDelta]

 

[IllmaticDelta]

 

[IllmaticDelta]

 

[Tetris v2.0]

I hope Madlib gets remembered in the history books. He never had any commercial success (Dilla had some, arguably) but he was neck and neck with Dilla at his peak, has more projects to his name, arguably inspired the soul chopping Dilla did on Donuts (listen to what Dilla was doing before then after Jaylib), the whole no-drums shyt ALC n them were doing, and has a legit classic with Madvillainy....

A lot of people might put 'Lib above Dilla but he ain't a hip, cool-signifier like Dilla is these days (Rick Ross, Dre and Pusha T namedrops). It doesn't make much sense to praise one and forget the other in this case

 

[KOohbt]

He was better IMO

 

[Tetris v2.0]

i hear you, but then again look at when he started
dilla's tracks was comin' out in 95'
he died in 06'
in those 11 years, dilla showed no signs of fallin' off
it's not like he had just started before he died
he was only gettin' better at the time of his death though

Exactly. Most people attribute Pete's decline to him switching to the MPC....
Or maybe it's sampling laws. I dunno, but he stopped layering samples over each other, using the LFOs to get that dream-like sound, and his bass lines fell all the way off. His beats used to breathe with life

Maybe he felt in competition with 9th Wonder who was churning out albums like a factory. Pete started to sound like him, very simple, sparse beats that sounded like they were made in 20mins or less. Ironically 9th also lost it when he switched to the MPC

These dudes also didn't MIX or didn't have good people handling that. Busta Rhymes said Dilla would mix his beats before he sent them to people

 

[I love Latina women]

Exactly. Most people attribute Pete's decline to him switching to the MPC....
Or maybe it's sampling laws. I dunno, but he stopped layering samples over each other, using the LFOs to get that dream-like sound, and his bass lines fell all the way off. His beats used to breathe with life

Maybe he felt in competition with 9th Wonder who was churning out albums like a factory. Pete started to sound like him, very simple, sparse beats that sounded like they were made in 20mins or less. Ironically 9th also lost it when he switched to the MPC

true, i agree with all of that

 

[I love Latina women]

I hope Madlib gets remembered in the history books. He never had any commercial success (Dilla had some, arguably) but he was neck and neck with Dilla at his peak, has more projects to his name, arguably inspired the soul chopping Dilla did on Donuts (listen to what Dilla was doing before then after Jaylib), the whole no-drums shyt ALC n them were doing, and has a legit classic with Madvillainy....

A lot of people might put 'Lib above Dilla but he ain't a hip, cool-signifier like Dilla is these days (Rick Ross, Dre and Pusha T namedrops). It doesn't make much sense to praise one and forget the other in this case

i agree
madlb is alien when it comes to production
like, bruh is from another planet with that shyt
his level of creativity is somewhere in outerspace with it

 

[Urbanmiracle]

J dilla was much a Pete Rock Stan as any. I realized that when most of Dilla earlier work were samples Pete Rock used and he flipped them better and crazier. He was pretty much Pete Rock on steroids mixed with cocaine.

As far as him and Madlib, they are pretty much audio GODS to me. I worship those cats especially Madlib. They both could pretty much do anything they wanted to anything. Samples, jazz, funk, break beats, they both were super super super super ill. It was crazy how Madlib would jack and rhyme over bootleg Dilla tapes and Dilla grew a mutual respect for him and said lets do it and they dropped Jaylib which as far as beats, is bananas. Only thing Dilla was weak at was rhyming but even then, he was above average on those Slum albums. But the point was that they used melodies and cadences from the influence of their Motown Homeland. Man Dilla was dope. Black Milk and Alchemist and Roc Mariciano, MF Doom, Oh No, Madlib are carrying the torch. Also Flying Lotus and shout out Nujabes (rip). Black Milk came through my job one day and we chopped it up for a long time talking about Dilla and production and influences. I just kept saying you're dope man.

 

[I love Latina women]

I hope Madlib gets remembered in the history books. He never had any commercial success (Dilla had some, arguably) but he was neck and neck with Dilla at his peak, has more projects to his name, arguably inspired the soul chopping Dilla did on Donuts (listen to what Dilla was doing before then after Jaylib), the whole no-drums shyt ALC n them were doing, and has a legit classic with Madvillainy....

A lot of people might put 'Lib above Dilla but he ain't a hip, cool-signifier like Dilla is these days (Rick Ross, Dre and Pusha T namedrops). It doesn't make much sense to praise one and forget the other in this case

J dilla was much a Pete Rock Stan as any. I realized that when most of Dilla earlier work were samples Pete Rock used and he flipped them better and crazier. He was pretty much Pete Rock on steroids mixed with cocaine.

As far as him and Madlib, they are pretty much audio GODS to me. I worship those cats especially Madlib. They both could pretty much do anything they wanted to anything. Samples, jazz, funk, break beats, they both were super super super super ill. It was crazy how Madlib would jack and rhyme over bootleg Dilla tapes and Dilla grew a mutual respect for him and said lets do it and they dropped Jaylib which as far as beats, is bananas. Only thing Dilla was weak at was rhyming but even then, he was above average on those Slum albums. But the point was that they used melodies and cadences from the influence of their Motown Homeland. Man Dilla was dope. Black Milk and Alchemist and Roc Mariciano, MF Doom, Oh No, Madlib are carrying the torch. Also Flying Lotus and shout out Nujabes (rip). Black Milk came through my job one day and we chopped it up for a long time talking about Dilla and production and influences. I just kept saying you're dope man.

dap and +rep to all 3 of y'all, great posts, bruhs

 

[Dontay Flaco]

 

[stealthbomber]

Dilla never had the chance to fall off. If anything, he died at his peak when he was most creative and that's why people remember him so fondly

very true but even in the 10 or so year he produced there weren't many dull moments. from the jump he was making classics. he produced runnin in 95 and donuts around the time he died.