It takes more skill and talent to make Trap beats than to Sample

[West Coast Avenger]

Naw...you just caught feelings and decided to talk out your ass........

 

[Turbulent]

it depends. some of the 90s shyt was simple to make, some of it was more complex (check the bombsquad for example).

same with today, while it might not be sampled shyt, a lot of it is very formulatic. it's kinda like you figure out the template and then just plug in values at the variables to come up with different beats which end up sounding similar. and then again, some of it sounds inspired too so it's not all bad either.

 

[Wild self]

Trap beats are cheap to make and it's finally exposed on the lack of worth it really is.

 

[TrifeGod]

Going to keep it 100.

If Metro Boomin' was a producer in the 90s. He would be classified as a DnB Producer. If not DnB then Trip-Hop.

"I Serve The Base" is my example.

But do I agree with OP. Not really. Just adding a different perspective.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

In some ways I agree in some ways I don't

Chopping Samples and Flipping them into something band new and making it have melody isn't easy at all.....It's equally as difficult as creating a new melody via keyboard.

Now playing your own melody might be more difficult than flipping a loop......remember this key component, when you sample a song that's already a hit it's very difficult for to make a great song over that. Puff and Bad Boy time and time again were able to make classics over other hits which is very difficult to do because you have to cancel out the fact that people loved the original and no ruin it....they were able to do that. Think about how many times you've heard a record that was sampled and thought, damn....they should have left that alone.

 

[HoloGraphic]

*Insert generic share roll into every trap song here*

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

The ironic thing is 90% of trap beats sound like they were sampled from other trap beats.

 

[Harry B]

If you've ever tried to produce you would know that it isn't true, creatively it's hard as fukk to recognise a dope sample and turn it into to a hiphop song. The same way they use samples is the same way a producer use pre-programmed drums and sounds to make beats.

Dont know if you had to go so hard at those classic sample beats...But he does have a point,when i realize some of my favorite all time beats is just a loop of some shyt sumbody else did

My only complaint is hiphop producers should be able to make from scratch beats that sound every bit as good as those instrumentals they love to sample so much.

with that said,when you factor in beats that werent just looped samples from the 90's,trap beats are still a regression and not some evolution

Of course they can but then they have to hire a band and it won't sound the same.
Kanye West made All of the lights with an orchestra, it costs a lot of money to make those type of beats without samples and programming.

 

[JahFocus CS]

 

[Dontay Flaco]

 

[DMGAINGREEN]

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Sorry but I agree with him.

In some ways I agree in some ways I don't

Chopping Samples and Flipping them into something band new and making it have melody isn't easy at all.....It's equally as difficult as creating a new melody via keyboard.

Now playing your own melody might be more difficult than flipping a loop......remember this key component, when you sample a song that's already a hit it's very difficult for to make a great song over that. Puff and Bad Boy time and time again were able to make classics over other hits which is very difficult to do because you have to cancel out the fact that people loved the original and no ruin it....they were able to do that. Think about how many times you've heard a record that was sampled and thought, damn....they should have left that alone.

I disagree 100% I believe it's the opposite. Baby Boy's hits were nothing more than previous hits re-packaged. The generation that grew up on it copped it and the new generation who never heard it or heard their parents bump it copped it too. I do believe that some of the people who loved the sample used for Juicy copped the song or album based on that and that alone. I'm not going to say anyone could do it but I'm tempted too. Definitely a music industry formula that has worked time and time again. Not some brilliant production but rather the continued exploitation of a hit record.

 

[SirBiatch]

Idiotic and inaccurate premise aside, who cares? the end result of trap is

 

[Detroit Wave]

if it takes more skill than why every dusty nikka with FL Studio make trap beats that all sound the same?

negged :timmyumadbreh:

 

[Tetris v2.0]

So basically all the trap producers using the same stock drum sounds and fills, and also the same synth kits and templates and same simple chord progressions and melodies cause they watched a YouTube video showing them how to do everything are automatically more talented than crate diggers?