It takes more skill and talent to make Trap beats than to Sample

[Mrl HiGrnd]

who cares? if the beat is still triddash, all your work is for naught

Y'all are acting like sampling is so damn easy. I took an obscure recording to a young cat to flip. And he just couldn't do it. Gave that same recording to an older cat who flipped it. Like anything, it's a skill set and some people are more comfortable doing x as opposed to y.

There is no "proper way" to make a beat. Whatever you do, it just has to be good. Meaning that it carries imagination/feeling. Period.

I dont make triddash beats tho

And it doesnt change the fact that composing will always be harder than copying. So youre telling me its harder for you to sample a guitar solo than for me to play one. GTFOH

 

[Mrl HiGrnd]

It depends how u sample tho.... U can take a 4 bar loop or u can chop that 4 bar loop in many pieces

Read the last line in that post breh

 

[SirBiatch]

I dont make triddash beats tho

There's no way to verify that, tho.

I'm not saying your stuff is weak, but I will say this: the kind of argument I hear from you is what I've heard from other producers who frequently make weak shyt.

You should know that a great producer is about having the ear and having 'vision', period. All the tools, techniques are secondary. They serve the ear and the vision.

You can talk shyt about the techniques that Premo/RZA/Timbaland etc had, but the fact of the matter is that they had vision (and a lot of the time, they created those techniques that a million people bit, yet still couldn't do it better than them). And their best material still holds up like a muhfukka. You're just some guy on the Coli talking about "oh it was easier for them back then!"

And it doesnt change the fact that composing will always be harder than copying. So youre telling me its harder for you to sample a guitar solo than for me to play one. GTFOH

another fallacy.

It's about what you compose, and what you copy. I can compose triddash in seconds. Just like I can copy triddash in seconds.

 

[head shots101]

Read the last line in that post breh

sorry rushed through your post when I was reading

 

[dj-method-x]

Sounds a little blasphemous but OP has a point. I've just gotten into production and coming up with your own melodies, chord progressions, and making sure everything is in harmony is not easy. If you think it is, pick up any music theory book. The science and theory of why some music sounds good to the ear is NOT simple. When you sample melodies and chords the original composer basically has done half of the hard work for you.

Having said that, the forefathers of trap imo, Three 6 Mafia, sampled damn near all of their melodies from movie scores and other obscure shyt. I don't take anything from them nor do I think we should take anything from the producers of the 90s who sampled a lot. All that matters is that the end result sounds good. No one gives a fukk if the end result came from samples or if you hand designed every single sound yourself.

 

[Mrl HiGrnd]

There's no way to verify that, tho.

I made every part of that beat and even the sampled vocals is my own voice. That shyt took about 10 hours to make.

EDIT: AND i made the synths by hand which is a challenge in itself. Producers nowadays are doing wayyyyy more than the producers of yesterday UNTOP of still sampling and crate digging like our predecessors

 

[SirBiatch]

I made every part of that beat and even the sampled vocals is my own voice. That shyt took about 10 hours to make.

EDIT: AND i made the synths by hand which is a challenge in itself. Producers nowadays are doing wayyyyy more than the producers of yesterday UNTOP of still sampling and crate digging like our predecessors

I say this respectfully breh, but that track is

doesn't matter how much time you spend on it. Some amazing beats take 15 minutes to make. some take hours, days, weeks. It just doesn't matter. A great beat is a great beat, regardless of how you make it.

 

[Newportbox]

The final product is trash though. As a consumer, that's what I care about.

 

[Entrapta310]

I say this respectfully breh, but that track is

doesn't matter how much time you spend on it. Some amazing beats take 15 minutes to make. some take hours, days, weeks. It just doesn't matter. A great beat is a great beat, regardless of how you make it.

got to give gim credit.
its the difference btwn making the cookie from scratch and the ice cream and putting together an cookie ice cream sandwhich

OR

buying the cookie, buying the ice cream and THEN making the sandwich.


give him props for making that from scratch at least

 

[Mrl HiGrnd]

I say this respectfully breh, but that track is

doesn't matter how much time you spend on it. Some amazing beats take 15 minutes to make. some take hours, days, weeks. It just doesn't matter. A great beat is a great beat, regardless of how you make it.

Eh thats your opinion and its from 2 years and my new shyt is 5 times better and peaking interest of people in the industry. And once again its about the level of effort. When people sample theyre usually sampling shyt that took hours to compose

 

[Playaz Eyez]

If this were true, there would be more knockoff DJ Premier's, 9th Wonder's, and Harry Fraud's. Instead there's an enormous amount of knockoff Lex Luger's, Southside's, and Sonny Digital's,

 

[IntellectualViolence]

 

[JayBaldacci]

this again?

in the end, great sampled beats will always sound better than trap...

 

[Mike the Executioner]

At the end of the day, sampled or original, none of it matters if the beat sucks. Crate diggers understood that and were working with a lot less technology than the producers of today, and the end result? Those sampled beats in the 1990s turned out better than today's beats because people took it seriously and gave it effort, instead of thinking that they would just get a cookie for making everything themselves.

You can't sit there and tell me that producers like the Bomb Squad had it easy, considering the fact they used about ten samples on every Public Enemy song. How does someone who listens to hip hop disrespect the art of sampling, which is one of the most essential aspects of the entire genre?

 

[SirBiatch]

At the end of the day, sampled or original, none of it matters if the beat sucks. Crate diggers understood that and were working with a lot less technology than the producers of today, and the end result? Those sampled beats in the 1990s turned out better than today's beats because people took it seriously and gave it effort, instead of thinking that they would just get a cookie for making everything themselves.

You can't sit there and tell me that producers like the Bomb Squad had it easy, considering the fact they used about ten samples on every Public Enemy song. How does someone who listens to hip hop disrespect the art of sampling, which is one of the most essential aspects of the entire genre?

Simple. By not being a hip hop fan