It's a Wrap for D-Bry, Brehs

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The thought that the E actually thinks fans want to see larger than life superstars (I use that term loosely) such as Khali, over real talent wrestlers that are average in height. :heh:
They do tho, the majority of fans are casual wrestlin fans who like big physical guys like Ryback and Roman Reigns cause its more believable they'd be dominant. You thinkin like a smark who are in the minority which is why Vince couldn't care less about yall opinions, ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!
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Wait a minute? Since when has Orton been a big guy :what:
:dwillhuh: He 6'4 245lbs, in what universe is that not big? Cena a few inches shorter and only like 5 pounds heavier but he considered a big guy too, not just by regular standards but even in the wrestlin world they big dudes especially compared to guys like Bryan and Punk.

This is pro wrestling though, casuals expect main eventers to be like Stallone and Arnold.
Cause its more entertainin watchin "larger than life" cats beat people down, shyts like an action movie.:yeshrug:

The best REAL wrestler in the world is 5'8'' 163 lbs
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But he would be too small to get pushed by cokeboy :dead:
:comeon:He'd get legit murdered by Brock.

Of course Vince and HHH has a hard on for bodybuilders. I'm saying size doesn't matter at all. You don't have to be jacked up, you don't have to have "the look". You don't even have to speak English. It's talent and charisma. WWE leaves money on the table with the one track mind
:stopitslime:Thats that typical denial of wrestlin smarks, alot of yall are short and skinny or :flabbynsick: so you delusional enough to actually believe a guy like Bryan could really fukk up a nikka twice his size cause it gives yall hope that you could too. I know its still real to yall but in real life size does matter, ain't many smaller dudes winnin against Batista lookin muhfukkas unless they martial arts experts and the bigger dude don't know how to fight.

nikkas say this like its a life sentence :heh:. shyt, Cena's in the midcard too, but we don't hear wrestlefags constantly complaining about that now do we.
:rudy:Cena a Heavyweight champion and the face of Smackdown that nikka main event.

the problem is Vince wants people to believe more in what is seen than what happens. He wants us to believe that there isn't a non-cheating way for Bryan to beat these big guys and to ignore workrate.
There isn't, not realistically.:manny:

It's not a wrap for the Dazzler. Well, that is if the brain trust in charge at the E plan on putting the WWE title on Bryan at WM. And before that, having HHH tap out to the Yes Lock at the Elimination Chamber ppv. Can you imagine 80,000+ in the Superdome chanting yes if D-Bry wins the title at WM? :banderas: Although something tells me in my gut that this might not be the case because the fukkery is strong.
Still waitin on #datpayoff:banderas:
 

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:dwillhuh: He 6'4 245lbs, in what universe is that not big? Cena a few inches shorter and only like 5 pounds heavier but he considered a big guy too, not just by regular standards but even in the wrestlin world they big dudes especially compared to guys like Bryan and Punk.
First off, I know E always exaggerates size, so I don't always go by what they say. I go by what I see. The difference is that Cena has a bigger build than Orton. Cena has a very muscular build, while Orton has a slender/athletic build. When I see Orton, I don't see a "big guy"

And :rudy: @ Punk. Have you seen Punk and Orton in the ring together? They're almost the same size (Punk is like 2 inches shorter) and have similar builds (Punk is a bit slimmer/lankier). So how can you say Orton is a big guy and then turn around and say Punk is a smaller guy :comeon:
 

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But they're not fighting heavyweights.

I understand the point but it's not really what I'm arguing....sure the smaller man can be the bigger draw...maybe in wrestling that's all that matters and that should be the end of discussion.

What you're saying is synonymous to me saying....that I enjoyed the Cruiser-weight Division to the Heavyweight Division in WCW. Hell, I DID often prefer the cruiser-weights to the endless NWO fukkery of the heavies....but I don't think that Psicosis should have been given a heavyweight title reign. And it doesn't mean that I think he would have been a mainstream attraction.

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^ Put this dude on Leno, brehs.


 

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They do tho, the majority of fans are casual wrestlin fans who like big physical guys like Ryback and Roman Reigns cause its more believable they'd be dominant. You thinkin like a smark who are in the minority which is why Vince couldn't care less about yall opinions, ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!
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:dwillhuh: He 6'4 245lbs, in what universe is that not big? Cena a few inches shorter and only like 5 pounds heavier but he considered a big guy too, not just by regular standards but even in the wrestlin world they big dudes especially compared to guys like Bryan and Punk.


Cause its more entertainin watchin "larger than life" cats beat people down, shyts like an action movie.:yeshrug:


:comeon:He'd get legit murdered by Brock.


:stopitslime:Thats that typical denial of wrestlin smarks, alot of yall are short and skinny or :flabbynsick: so you delusional enough to actually believe a guy like Bryan could really fukk up a nikka twice his size cause it gives yall hope that you could too. I know its still real to yall but in real life size does matter, ain't many smaller dudes winnin against Batista lookin muhfukkas unless they martial arts experts and the bigger dude don't know how to fight.


:rudy:Cena a Heavyweight champion and the face of Smackdown that nikka main event.


There isn't, not realistically.:manny:


Still waitin on #datpayoff:banderas:

Kurt Angle won Olympic Gold Medal in the 220 lb weight class while barely weighing 200 pounds in his pre steroids days. HHH stated Kurt was too "small" to be champion, of course when it came to HHH facing Kurt in a shoot. He stfu. I'd take Jordan Burroughs in a shoot over anyone in WWE, he may come to a stalemate with Brock in a wrestling situation but he's 300 lbs on steroids.
 

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They do tho, the majority of fans are casual wrestlin fans who like big physical guys like Ryback and Roman Reigns cause its more believable they'd be dominant. You thinkin like a smark who are in the minority which is why Vince couldn't care less about yall opinions, ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!
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Then Khali should be getting pop of the night, right? :heh:
 

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But they're not fighting heavyweights.

I understand the point but it's not really what I'm arguing....sure the smaller man can be the bigger draw...maybe in wrestling that's all that matters and that should be the end of discussion.

What you're saying is synonymous to me saying....that I enjoyed the Cruiser-weight Division to the Heavyweight Division in WCW. Hell, I DID often prefer the cruiser-weights to the endless NWO fukkery of the heavies....but I don't think that Psicosis should have been given a heavyweight title reign. And it doesn't mean that I think he would have been a mainstream attraction.

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^ Put this dude on Leno, brehs.

Of course he should be on Leno, dude has a distinct look and is very charismatic. One of the biggest stars in comedy practically has the same look.
 

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Of course he should be on Leno, dude has a distinct look and is very charismatic. One of the biggest stars in comedy practically has the same look.
Exactly!
he would do great on a talk show,and they send him out to do media all the time. what would be the problem? You just be able tell an interesting/amusing story and promote the product. Its quite simple.
 

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But they're not fighting heavyweights.

I understand the point but it's not really what I'm arguing....sure the smaller man can be the bigger draw...maybe in wrestling that's all that matters and that should be the end of discussion.

What you're saying is synonymous to me saying....that I enjoyed the Cruiser-weight Division to the Heavyweight Division in WCW. Hell, I DID often prefer the cruiser-weights to the endless NWO fukkery of the heavies....but I don't think that Psicosis should have been given a heavyweight title reign. And it doesn't mean that I think he would have been a mainstream attraction.

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^ Put this dude on Leno, brehs.


Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero & Rey Mysterio were all in that WCW cruiser weight division. Tell me more about how WWE fans didn't buy them and didn't get over
 

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First off, I know E always exaggerates size, so I don't always go by what they say. I go by what I see. The difference is that Cena has a bigger build than Orton. Cena has a very muscular build, while Orton has a slender/athletic build. When I see Orton, I don't see a "big guy"

And :rudy: @ Punk. Have you seen Punk and Orton in the ring together? They're almost the same size (Punk is like 2 inches shorter) and have similar builds (Punk is a bit slimmer/lankier). So how can you say Orton is a big guy and then turn around and say Punk is a smaller guy :comeon:
:usure:Orton clearly a big guy if you see him standin next to regular people in talk show interviews and shyt he towers over them, but when he next to cats like Batista and Sheamus he bout the same height and he taller than Triple H who Vince considers a "big guy".

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He don't got that bodybuilder look like Cena but he still a big muscular dude and he's cut no homo.

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No homo
Punk slightly above average height at best and he be lookin:flabbynsick: nikka ain't got no muscles on him, he smaller than Jericho muscle wise who's not a "big guy" himself.

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Kurt Angle won Olympic Gold Medal in the 220 lb weight class while barely weighing 200 pounds in his pre steroids days. HHH stated Kurt was too "small" to be champion, of course when it came to HHH facing Kurt in a shoot. He stfu. I'd take Jordan Burroughs in a shoot over anyone in WWE, he may come to a stalemate with Brock in a wrestling situation but he's 300 lbs on steroids.
Kurt wasn't goin against super heavyweights like Brock tho, and he wasn't champion in his "pre steroid" days:mjpls:once he got on that juice he wasn't too small anymore n/h.

:childplease:@ a nikka under 200 lbs comin to a stalemate wit Brock who just as if not more talented and 100 lbs heavier.
 
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Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero & Rey Mysterio were all in that WCW cruiser weight division. Tell me more about how WWE fans didn't buy them and didn't get over
Fair enough. I can't really argue with that (Although, from what I remember, these guys did bulk up once in the WWE).
 

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Kurt wasn't goin against super heavyweights like Brock tho :childplease:@ a nikka under 200 lbs comin to a stalemate wit Brock who just as if not more talented and 100 lbs heavier.

Kurt was world champion and Olympic gold medalist. Hardly same level as NCAA champion. They had a shoot wrestling match backstage and all observers said either Kurt won or it was a stalemate.
 

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Kurt was world champion and Olympic gold medalist. Hardly same level as NCAA champion. They had a shoot wrestling match backstage and all observers said either Kurt won or it was a stalemate.
Brock was trained in MMA and was UFC champion:manny:besides not like he couldn't have won gold medals himself. Kurt was like 250 and on roids by then while Brock wasn't as big as he is now and didn't have that MMA trainin yet, completely different than that other dude who under 200 bein able to wrestle current super heavyweight Brock to a stalemate.
 

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Brock was trained in MMA and was UFC champion:manny:besides not like he couldn't have won gold medals himself. Kurt was like 250 and on roids by then while Brock wasn't as big as he is now and didn't have that MMA trainin yet, completely different than that other dude who under 200 bein able to wrestle current super heavyweight Brock to a stalemate.

Jordan Burroughs at 163 vs Randy Orton in a shoot, who u got?
 
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