Its amazing how intelligent old school rappers were at such a young age

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Cosign OP.. and you gotta look at the short amount of time it took for these guys to record and release these projects

Like you look at Outkast and the music they were making at a young age

They were like 19-20 when they dropped ATLiens

By the time they were like 25-26 they had already dropped Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, ATLiens, Aquemini and Stankonia

That's crazy.

Making songs like Liberation and Growing old in their early 20's.


--
Lauryn HIll was in her early 20's during her Fugee's/Miseducation run

Tip and Phife dropping Midnight Marauders ,Low End Theory and Instictive Travels in their early 20's

 

[the cac mamba]

I mean it's evident. The young lad pretty much breathed life into a completely dead and un barren youth Chicago music scene.

Single handidly made Chicago one of the hottest musical spots of the 2010s. A place that damn near nobody cared about even with a superstar rapper like Kanye.

Showed the lifestyle and troubles of thousands voiceless youth and did it single handily. No beats from superstar producers, no hype, no 5 mics from the source

Just pure raw talent.

Then doubled up again after 2012 and switched up his whole style and learned how to produce beats, which again gave birth to damn near all the young rappers you see popping now.


All before he turned 21

honestly, without young chop making the 'i dont like' beat, i dont think chief keef ever gets off the ground

and im not even disrespecting him, he killed the hook and made the song what it was. but dude isnt that talented

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

It was more than just Nas....

You had Prodigy, AZ, Mega, ... Etc... Dudes were just different

True however Prodigy was like 20 when Mobb Deep's album came out. I think Cormega is older than Prodigy and Nas but I could be wrong.

Lupe, Kendrick were writing quality bars in their 20s like that. I think J Cole was 22-23 when his first mixtape dropped.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

How many humans ever wrote something like this. the combination of skill and intelligence it takes to create something like this. I think we really take hiphop for granted. most of the old school rappers were young geniuses. These guys were creating shyt the Harvard professors couldn't do with no resources. just a mic booth a drum beat.

everything from the the metaphors, story telling, keep it all consistent in one 3 min song, nobody can tell me hiphop isnt one of the greatest musical forms ever created.

It's as much about "intelligence" as it is about having a way with words (or the "gift of gab" as some would say).

Nas is a great lyricist but more importantly he's able to draw you in to what he's saying. There are dudes who ain't all that in terms of complexity but their words have greater impact because they still have a way of choosing the right words and delivering them the right say.

All that being said, there's young folks dropping real jewels right now.

 

[SirBiatch]

Nas is an exception and one guy isn't the norm, it was rare then and it's rare now.

Nas is a rare talent, but a lot of those great rappers were young and talking powerful shyt. Jeru couldn't have been that old when he made "Jungle Music."

Lupe, Kendrick were writing quality bars in their 20s like that. I think J Cole was 22-23 when his first mixtape dropped.

All that being said, there's young folks dropping real jewels right now.

Yet you haven't named a single one nor provided any kinda receipts (great lines, names of great songs, etc)

 

[Da_Eggman]

Chief keef wrote I don't like at 15 fukking genius

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

You can make the argument that Sosa at 16-18 was just as impactful if not more impactful as Nas at 18-21 to their respective generations

Nah, but I'd like to see you try

 

[ridedolo]

this is what i grew up on which is why i'm unimpressed by the new shyt

 

[Ol’Otis]

I was just thinking this

These new age rappers can barely formulate a sentence

 

[backbreaker65]

The most misguided quote is confusing someone who is "well read" versus someone who is intelligent, has always been a confusing conundrum. If you read a book, or heard a speech, or engaged in conversation with someone who is giving you information and you regurgitate the info, is that really intelligence?

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Krs my philosophy
Ice Cube endangered species and the whole death certificate album
Public enemy

These cats were dropping jewels on records in their early 20's

Low key, I've thought about this too. They were spitting gems around 19-20.......

On some real shyt I'm a young nikka (22) and I've had a sharp pen game for years... Wrote and recorded this when I was 19



"Life insomniac, dreaming on the corner
Of driving a Pontiac, breathing on recorders
Scribe the celestial, my team is in orbit
Circling the globe like ICBMs warring
Irking to explode, but right now they dormant
Constructed domestic, strategically aimed foreign
Sends yours here and you know I'm gonna deport em
Fly em back tonight, you won't see next morning
Flying overnight for overseas endorsements
No closed doors, my crib equipped with doormen
SoHo decor, your picket fence is boring
This the life of the cultured and important
Eyes on the sky cause I know the vultures is soaring
Awaiting my time, but time don't wait
Keep the Town on my back and it might just break
But I bear it like the cross cause it's mine to take
Never cared for your applause cause my mind's awake
You're examining my flaws while I eye the snakes
You're disparaging the lost, I own my mistakes
Every action has a cost, know that Ima pay
Your inaction never profits, that's the price you pay
Yeah, that's the price you pay
Wanna be the boss, but you frightened of the fray
I ain't gotta be the boss, I'm just tryna get the cake"

My songmaking craft improved a lot since then but I've always been able to write, there isn't much of an audience these days for that though if it isn't complemented by good hook writing, musicality and production

 

[wizworld]

You can make the argument that Sosa at 16-18 was just as impactful if not more impactful as Nas at 18-21 to their respective generations

The artistic merit just isn't there. Just wait 10 years and see if any of the artists that became popular after Keef credit him as an inspiration. Artist who are well known in their dislike of Nas as a person don't hesitate to credit him as a musical inspiration.
The drill thing was already happening before Keef, he just was the first one to get the national spotlight on him. He doesn't do anything musically that the rest of those guys can't.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Jeru was 21 when he dropped this



I leap over lies in a single pound
(Who are you?)
The black prophet
One day I got struck by knowledge of self
They gave me super scientifical powers
Now I, run through the ghetto
Battling my arch nemesis Mr. Ignorance

He's been trying to take me out since the days of my youth
He feared this day would come, I'm hot on his trail
But sometimes he slips away because he has an army
They always give me trouble

Mainly hatred, jealousy and envy they attack me
They think they got me
But I use my super science and I twist all three
I see sparks over that building, they're shooting at me

I dip, do a back flip
Then hit 'em in the heart with sharp skilled book marks
Ignorance hates when I drop it
But no matta what he do he can't stop the prophet


Even the B team was bringing it

 

[RichYung]

True however Prodigy was like 20 when Mobb Deep's album came out. I think Cormega is older than Prodigy and Nas but I could be wrong.

Lupe, Kendrick were writing quality bars in their 20s like that. I think J Cole was 22-23 when his first mixtape dropped.

Yeah, you're right. Mega's older by a few years. He's like Tragedy's age.

 

[Sauce Dab]