You make a good point, but ultimately these well read rappers provided a lot of inspiration & positive reinforcement for a lot of truly intelligent young brothers. To be able to inspire a young brother to become more well read, have a stronger vocabulary, become more culturally aware etc. is a feather in one's cap.
Its amazing how intelligent old school rappers were at such a young age
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You make a good point, but ultimately these well read rappers provided a lot of inspiration & positive reinforcement for a lot of truly intelligent young brothers. To be able to inspire a young brother to become more well read, have a stronger vocabulary, become more culturally aware etc. is a feather in one's cap.
FruitOfTheVale
Superstar
Vince Staples was 21 when he dropped Summertime 06 and it definitely has songs & lyrics on par with that.
I wrote this when I was 21:
"Shottas on the corner post, pockets fulla overdose
Focused on the duckets though a docket's in the horoscope
Market Street a horror show, zombies round the stoner store
Concrete Rosetta Stones embedded in the selling zones
The white girl from Mexico done settled with a brothaman
for green beans in rubberbands, the cream'll make you understand
A dream scene the motherland, is Sing Sing a brotha land?
I feel Chapo, put me under land
where the sufferers stand, rooted with a different pull
Moving to a different tune, the rules unprincipled
Underground now but my tomb's in the living room
Plates made of solid gold, hanging from the walls enclosed
with dates, names and audio; ciphers in the spirals
where the blank page starts with yo, the texts scripted
In a language never saw before, the West Indies
Call it sacred, nikkas call it dope, the boys call it war
The raiders on the yard plotting on the score
robbing what was yours, the parchments and the chords
The wallets and awards, the coffin and the corpse
Prophecy delivered to the rockers of rhythm
Would you rock a boat inches from the rockiest inning?
Would you rock the coke whipping what your congressmen sniffing?
Would you watch the folks whipping on some fatherless children
with Guantanamo visions praying your seed isn't?"
It's more than a few young spitters out right now though
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And all from ny
I don't wtf these lil niggss nowadays are doing. These nikkas write the most simplistic shyt, sound retarded on interviews and just overall come off as dumb nikkas. I don't even wanna hear they may have dropped out of school....nas did at like 9 years old. New nikkas just different.
FruitOfTheVale
Superstar
Yet you haven't named a single one nor provided any kinda receipts (great lines, names of great songs, etc)
Receipts have been provided, whether you agree or not
Receipts have been provided, whether you agree or not
so your receipts to "there are young folks dropping real jewels rn" are verses you spit (you being an unsigned rapper no one knows about, and I say that respectfully) and a mention of Vince Staples? OK
Black_Panther_JS
Superstar
they still here
just not being shown
just not being shown
FruitOfTheVale
Superstar
And all from ny
Kyle C. Barker
Migos VERZUZ Mahalia Jackson
I'll take your vince and raise you mos def and talib kweli who were 23 when they dropped the blackstar album
"Give me the fortune, keep the fame, " said my man Louis
I agreed, know what he mean because we live the truest lie
I asked him why we follow the law of the bluest eye
He looked at me, he thought about it
Was like, "I'm clueless, why?"
The question was rhetorical, the answer is horrible
Our morals are out of place and got our lives full of sorrow
And so tomorrow comin' later than usual
Waitin' on someone to pity us
While we findin' beauty in the hideous
They say money's the root of all evil but I can't tell
You know what I mean, pesos, francs, yens, cowrie shells, dollar bills
Or is it the mindstate that's ill?
Creating crime rates to fill the new prisons they build
Over money and religion there's more blood to spill
The wounds of slaves in cotton fields that never heal
What's the deal?
A lot of cats who buy records are straight broke
But my language universal they be recitin' my quotes
While R&B singers hit bad notes, we rock the boat
of thought, that my man Louis' statements just provoked
Caught up, in conversations of our personal worth
Brought up, through endangered species status on the planet Earth
Survival tactics means, bustin' gats to prove you hard
Your firearms are too short to box with God
Without faith, all of that is illusionary
Raise my son, no vindication of manhood necessary
Not strong
[T.K.] Only aggressive
[M.D.] Not free
[T.K.] We only licensed
[M.D.] Not compassionate, only polite
[T.K.] Now who the nicest?
[M.D.] Not good but well behaved
[T.K.] Chasin' after death
so we can call ourselves brave?
[M.D.] Still livin' like mental slaves
[both] Hidin' like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis makin' you look twice
[both] Hidin' like thieves in the night from life
Illusions of oasis makin' you look twice
Yo, I'm sure that everybody out listenin' agree
That everything you see ain't really how it be
A lot of jokers out runnin' in place, chasin the style
Be a lot goin' on beneath the empty smile
Most cats in my area be lovin' the hysteria
Synthesized surface conceals the interior
America, land of opportunity, mirages and camouflages
More than usually -- speakin' loudly, sayin' nothin'
You confusin' me, you losin' me
Your game is twisted, want me enlisted -- in your usary
Foolishly, most men join the ranks cluelessly
Buffoonishly accept the deception, believe the perception
Reflection rarely seen across the surface of the lookin' glass
Walkin' the street, wonderin' who they be lookin' past
Lookin' gassed with them imported designer shades on
Stars shine bright, but the light -- rarely stays on
Same song, just remixed, different arrangement
Put you on a yacht but they won't call it a slave ship
Strangeness, you don't control this, you barely hold this
Screamin' brand new, when they just sanitized the old shyt
Suppose it's, just another clever Jedi mind trick
That they been runnin' across stars through all the time with
I find it's distressin', there's never no in-between
We either nikkaz or Kings
We either bytches or Queens
The deadly ritual seems immersed, in the perverse
Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts
Long barrel automatics released in short bursts
The length of black life is treated with short worth
Get yours first, them other nikkaz secondary
That type of illin' that be fillin' up the cemetery
This life is temporary but the soul is eternal
Separate the real from the lie, let me learn you
Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain't directed
That's why, we are subjected to the will of the oppressive
Not free, we only licensed
Not live, we just excitin'
Cause the captors.. own the masters.. to what we writin'
Not compassionate, only polite, we well trained
Our sincerity's rehearsed in stage, it's just a game
Not good, but well behaved cause the ca-me-ra survey
most of the things that we think, do, or say
We chasin' after death just to call ourselves brave
But everyday, next man meet with the grave
I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy
I'm tryin' to live life in the sight of God's memory
Like that y'all
nikkas had better OG's/old heads back then. They was getting knowledge... crazy how different that shyt is.And all from ny
Kyle C. Barker
Migos VERZUZ Mahalia Jackson
never thought about that
A lot them were born in the 70s which means their old heads were born in the 50s and 60s. That's the village that was raising the nikkas
FruitOfTheVale
Superstar
so your receipts to "there are young folks dropping real jewels rn" are verses you spit (you being an unsigned rapper no one knows about, and I say that respectfully) and a mention of Vince Staples? OK
I could mention more people but it ain't like 90% of the nikkas in this thread gon actually check for them anyway.
Case in point:
"I was too young to understand why they shot at me
For the life of my brotha, If I'da died, then who ride for me?
Sit and do some time for me? Rest-in-peace rhyme for me?
Stopped listening, cause all they did was lie to me
Incisions went through my head like lobotomies, pills fed
Vicodins and Colada ?, trill meds,
Promethazine and a lotta trees
New Years Eve, choppa chopped a tree
But this thirst for currency held no honesty so honestly,
My dynasty was created outta shiesty-thry
Fetti, guns and pure, my mi amor
gave us backrubs, plus rented us rentals throughout the war
Shot out the windows in front door
caught shrapnel, lieutenant got ranked like he an admiral
Still in it to win it, like the Admiral
Robinson, Duncan made sure it was no robbing him
Masked up like Batman and Robin did
Not to fight crime though, for jewels and hydro
And let it be a kicking in,
Gotta walk who you drink with, it might be a mick in there"
It's a lot of spitters out, nobody's listening though
I could mention more people but it ain't like 90% of the nikkas in this thread gon actually check for them anyway.
Case in point:
"I was too young to understand why they shot at me
For the life of my brotha, If I'da died, then who ride for me?
Sit and do some time for me? Rest-in-peace rhyme for me?
Stopped listening, cause all they did was lie to me
Incisions went through my head like lobotomies, pills fed
Vicodins and Colada ?, trill meds,
Promethazine and a lotta trees
New Years Eve, choppa chopped a tree
But this thirst for currency held no honesty so honestly,
My dynasty was created outta shiesty-thry
Fetti, guns and pure, my mi amor
gave us backrubs, plus rented us rentals throughout the war
Shot out the windows in front door
caught shrapnel, lieutenant got ranked like he an admiral
Still in it to win it, like the Admiral
Robinson, Duncan made sure it was no robbing him
Masked up like Batman and Robin did
Not to fight crime though, for jewels and hydro
And let it be a kicking in,
Gotta walk who you drink with, it might be a mick in there"
It's a lot of spitters out, nobody's listening though
yeah. because those verses are trash as fukk. And unless you have a cosign/sheep marketing tool, no one's gonna pay attention to garbage.
Verbose =/= intelligent and certainly does not mean 'interesting', which is the most important thing.
since you posted yourself, should I assume Blast Holiday is your homie? Why are you posting randoms, anyway? This thread is about known rappers of the 90s, so please respond with known rappers of the 2010s. Those are actual receipts we need
Jacaveli The Don
Superstar
The young GOAT was 23 when he made this
Sorry to be that guy my dude, but 'Pac was actually 22 when he recorded 'Pain', the 'Above the Rim' soundtrack came out March 1994 and the song dropped before that IIRC
And 'Pac's lyric: "Will I live to see 23..."