It's crazy how forgettable T.I's discography is

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Drake is this generations Eminem or 50

Only difference is drake doesn’t have one classic album or song. He’s got hits but no classics.

You called 50 a trendsetter but Drake is disposable?? Night Drake has a decade plus of hits, no matter who writing the shyt he has more quoteables that the average Joe knows than the other two

 

[Sad Bunny]

Your a known TIP hater, prolly cause Wayne didn’t become bigger and more respected until 07-08

I don’t hate TI. I just don’t like his music. Never got the hype. He has classic songs and good albums though.

Wayne wasn’t as big as TI but Wayne’s music is and was 100 times better lol.

 

[SuburbanPimp]

I don’t hate TI. I just don’t like his music. Never got the hype. He has classic songs and good albums though.

Wayne wasn’t as big as TI but Wayne’s music is and was 100 times better lol.

Wayne wasn’t as big as TI???

 

[JustCKing]

Wayne wasn’t as big as TI???

From 2003-2007, he wasn't. 2007 is when he became bigger than T.I.

 

[Master Teacher]

You have no idea what you're talking about. That Gucci song sounds nothing like a trap beat at all. For one, listen to Waka's "Hard In Da Paint" and then list to "Look What I Got". The difference between the two is the hi hats and the kicks. Trap beats are pretty much categorized by triplet drums and stuttering hi hats that repeat. If these beats were a dime a dozen Down South, you saying Jeezy brought the sound to the mainstream is laughable. Sounds nothing like the "Trap Or Die", "Air Forces" or "Thug Motivation 101" intro. Trap beats also have that dark, menacing aesthetic to them. "Look What I Got" is more of a predecessor to beats like "Who Dat" and "Hard In Da Paint".

You are a faketeacher my friend because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking. All you're doing here is being a fake, wannabe Art Barr.

First off trap beats don't have to be dark, just like you have dark crunk beats like Bia Bia ,and Crime Mobb knuck if you buck, and you got lively crunk beats like Bone Crusher's Outside of the club, you don't understand production

Waka's hard in the paint is not a trap beat, that's a crunk beat dumb ass, its literally a crunk song

Waka Flocka never made trap music, he came out doing crunk, then made swag music like New Hands

Look what I got sounds like Trap or Die or Air Forces, and it's not even dark, it sounds like a bunch of munchins strolling down the yellow brick road, Bop boppa bop ba bop bop bop, lmao, that beat is horrific, and there's no swing on the beat, the gucci and jeezy songs have the same swing those jeezy songs are just slower, but the snare is still on the third beat of the loop, and Look what you got the snare is on the 2nd and 4th beats like a regular beat

dumb ass

also on Look what I got, TI is rapping about being a successful rapper, not a drug dealer

TI barely has any drug dealing raps, he never even calls himself a trapper, ever

When you think of dope man rappers, Ti isn't even brought it up, Pusha T might as well have invented trap music lmao

you are silly

lmao at waka flocka hard in a paint lmao, you think Rick Ross hustler is trap beat too don't you lmao

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

I don’t hate TI. I just don’t like his music. Never got the hype. He has classic songs and good albums though.

Wayne wasn’t as big as TI but Wayne’s music is and was 100 times better lol.

Urban Legend is lowkey better than the Carter, 100 times better is crazy. Wayne a better rapper but musically let’s not do this

 

[Master Teacher]

Andre 3000 never said the lyrics you quoted. The only thing remotely close to what the lyrics you cited that Andre 3000 said was his verse from "Ya'll Scared". Do your homework.

Poor teacher you are. How are you going to use "lastly" and then continue to make additional points.

T.I. did create a sub-genre. No one would be referencing trap anything in regard to a style of music without T.I.

Breh, you have NEVER listened to "24's", he literally sings "I'd probably be trapping if I wasn't rapping right now" in the third verse of the song. He also mentions refusing to get a 9 to 5 because he's flippin kids. There's trap talk all over Trap Muzik and he definitely detailed being a drug dealer and furthermore, trapping ain't even limited to selling drugs.

I am not white, but you probably are. As white as you are, you'd probably blend in with some of the substances found in a trap.

I never quoted any lyrics for one, because it was lyrics it was just talking, and also it's irrelevant because Outkast didn't make trap music just for referencing the trap which is something that has nothing to do with music, that's the point, TI name his album Trap Muzik had nothing to do with the sound of his music

Look what You Got is not a trap song, TI is rapping about being a rapper on that song, not trapping

The beat doesn't have trap drums, TI is rapping way too much for it to be trap song, which you are basically just filling in space almost talking over the beat like the Gucci song I posted and Trap or Die by Jeezy even though they sound different they both have those similarities that make them trap

You can't rap like how TI was rapping over either of those beats

you're a prime example of why white people should have no opinion on rap, you have no idea what you're talking, and arrogant with no skills, no expertise in this art at all

There's no trap talk all over trap musik, you haven't posted one song

He got beats by Kanye West on that album, ain't not nobody trapping out a house bumping kanye and Jazzy Phizzle produchizzles, or any of that goofy ass music on TI album

Rubberband is not a trap song, he's just a generic as rap song about nothing, fake tough guy bravado over a happy go lucky beats, yet you said trap beat has to be dark and used rubberband man as an example of a TI trap song, you talk in circles just to say shyt

David Banner never made trap beats

Trap Muzik was not popular,nobody in the hood was banging that shyt, TI did not blow up until Urban Legend came out, where he found his niche, which and had much higher production values than Trap Muzik which you can tell he got throwaway beats from a lot of those big name producers

 

[Sad Bunny]

From 2003-2007, he wasn't. 2007 is when he became bigger than T.I.

Commercially yes. But in Philly Wayne got more play. I can only speak for my region, though

 

[Sad Bunny]

Urban Legend is lowkey better than the Carter, 100 times better is crazy. Wayne a better rapper but musically let’s not do this

Music is subjective and I really do not care about your opinion. I think you were taking my opinion and catching feelings for no reason.

Commercially yes, TIP was bigger at a time but I loathe those singles. Live your life is just so commercial and trash to me. Justin Timberlake song was trash. I never was crazy about “what you like” either. My favorite Ti album is urban legend. Tip vs ti was ass. I never listened to paper trail in it’s entirety.

But in Philly/college/high school, Wayne got more play. The Carter series dedication to drought three no ceilings, and you add on the features

I can only speak for my region, though.

 

[JustCKing]

I never quoted any lyrics for one, because it was lyrics it was just talking, and also it's irrelevant because Outkast didn't make trap music just for referencing the trap which is something that has nothing to do with music, that's the point, TI name his album Trap Muzik had nothing to do with the sound of his music

Look what You Got is not a trap song, TI is rapping about being a rapper on that song, not trapping

The beat doesn't have trap drums, TI is rapping way too much for it to be trap song, which you are basically just filling in space almost talking over the beat like the Gucci song I posted and Trap or Die by Jeezy even though they sound different they both have those similarities that make them trap

You can't rap like how TI was rapping over either of those beats

you're a prime example of why white people should have no opinion on rap, you have no idea what you're talking, and arrogant with no skills, no expertise in this art at all

There's no trap talk all over trap musik, you haven't posted one song

He got beats by Kanye West on that album, ain't not nobody trapping out a house bumping kanye and Jazzy Phizzle produchizzles, or any of that goofy ass music on TI album

Rubberband is not a trap song, he's just a generic as rap song about nothing, fake tough guy bravado over a happy go lucky beats, yet you said trap beat has to be dark and used rubberband man as an example of a TI trap song, you talk in circles just to say shyt

David Banner never made trap beats

Trap Muzik was not popular,nobody in the hood was banging that shyt, TI did not blow up until Urban Legend came out, where he found his niche, which and had much higher production values than Trap Muzik which you can tell he got throwaway beats from a lot of those big name producers

You mentioned Andre 3000 and I pointed it out that the words you were citing were Big Boi's NOT Andre 3000. On top of that you misquoted him and didn't even know which song or even album it came from. Prime example of an arrogant white not knowing what they are talking about.

"Look What I Got" is as much a trap song as any trap song that was released before 2010. There was nothing pre-2010 that defined what a trap beat was and the only real reference points for that sound WAS DJ Paul & Juicy J production, T Mix, Legendary Traxter, Squeaky or drum roll please... DJ Toomp.

Nobody outside of Three Six (mainly Infamous) was using the triplet flow consistently back then and even he wasn't on that style that much then. There was no defining style of how to rap over a trap beat.

By your standards, none of Jeezy's or Gucci's albums are trap albums because all of their albums have beats from producers who don't do trap music. Jazze Pha has production on Jeezy's TM101. Don Cannon and J.U.S.T.I.C.E League have production on the same album. Cannon has production on the same album. Gucci's "Freaky Gurl" isn't a trap song.

I never said "Rubberband Man" was a trap song. I said it had more of a trap mentality than "So Icy". NOBODY was classifying anything as trap beat prior to 2010.

Breh, T.I.'s popularity is neither here or there.

 

[Master Teacher]

You mentioned Andre 3000 and I pointed it out that the words you were citing were Big Boi's NOT Andre 3000. On top of that you misquoted him and didn't even know which song or even album it came from. Prime example of an arrogant white not knowing what they are talking about.

"Look What I Got" is as much a trap song as any trap song that was released before 2010. There was nothing pre-2010 that defined what a trap beat was and the only real reference points for that sound WAS DJ Paul & Juicy J production, T Mix, Legendary Traxter, Squeaky or drum roll please... DJ Toomp.

Nobody outside of Three Six (mainly Infamous) was using the triplet flow consistently back then and even he wasn't on that style that much then. There was no defining style of how to rap over a trap beat.

By your standards, none of Jeezy's or Gucci's albums are trap albums because all of their albums have beats from producers who don't do trap music. Jazze Pha has production on Jeezy's TM101. Don Cannon and J.U.S.T.I.C.E League have production on the same album. Cannon has production on the same album. Gucci's "Freaky Gurl" isn't a trap song.

I never said "Rubberband Man" was a trap song. I said it had more of a trap mentality than "So Icy". NOBODY was classifying anything as trap beat prior to 2010.

Breh, T.I.'s popularity is neither here or there.

you know how many songs these nikkaz did, I can't remember which one but I heard him say it, could've been on many of the dungeon family albums, like cool breeze, and goodie mobbs, the point was, I was merely referencing the fact that the word trap comes from the streets TI did not make that up, he named his album trap muzik not because of the style of music, it's no different than Mobb Deep naming their album Murder Music you fukking moron

and just like a white boy you double down arguing an irrelevant point because you can't respond with facts, you keep saying the same ting

You said nothing pre 2000 define trap music, LMAO, JEEZY RELEASED HIS THIRD ALBUM IN 2008, his career was pretty much over in 2010 lmao

and Gucci is the king of trap

lmao triple time flow, nobody rapping over traps beats is using a triple time flow, they were basically talking over beat like the Gucci Mane song I posted and all of Jeezy's songs dumb ass

Also only person who rapped like that in three six mafia was Lord Infamous, and that's why they had beef with Bone Thugs and Harmony back in the day because they said they were biting their style, this is back when Three SIx was Triple Six Mafia in the 90s and made HORRORCORE MUSIC

also the style Juicy J uses its not triple time, he got that from a memphis rapper named Playa fly who is a certified legend in Memphis lmao

Like I said typical white people

lmao Look What I got, you pick one of TI's wackest and most irrelevant songs to form an argument around, thinking that beat that sounds like a clown car is pulling up, resembles some shyt a drug dealer would ride around listening too lmao

you don't understand rap

 

[JustCKing]

you know how many songs these nikkaz did, I can't remember which one but I heard him say it, could've been on many of the dungeon family albums, like cool breeze, and goodie mobbs, the point was, I was merely referencing the fact that the word trap comes from the streets TI did not make that up, he named his album trap muzik not because of the style of music, it's no different than Mobb Deep naming their album Murder Music you fukking moron

and just like a white boy you double down arguing an irrelevant point because you can't respond with facts, you keep saying the same ting

You said nothing pre 2000 define trap music, LMAO, JEEZY RELEASED HIS THIRD ALBUM IN 2008, his career was pretty much over in 2010 lmao

and Gucci is the king of trap

lmao triple time flow, nobody rapping over traps beats is using a triple time flow, they were basically talking over beat like the Gucci Mane song I posted and all of Jeezy's songs dumb ass

Also only person who rapped like that in three six mafia was Lord Infamous, and that's why they had beef with Bone Thugs and Harmony back in the day because they said they were biting their style, this is back when Three SIx was Triple Six Mafia in the 90s and made HORRORCORE MUSIC

also the style Juicy J uses its not triple time, he got that from a memphis rapper named Playa fly who is a certified legend in Memphis lmao

Like I said typical white people

lmao Look What I got, you pick one of TI's wackest and most irrelevant songs to form an argument around, thinking that beat that sounds like a clown car is pu

lling up, resembles some shyt a drug dealer would ride around listening too lmao

you don't understand rap

Breh, you cited a direct quote and now you're backtracking because you really didn't know what you were talking about. I watched every part if that Khujo interview when they dropped. He's referring to Andre's verse on "Player's Ball", which wasn't Andre just talking, his trap reference was in his verse. Anyway, that's beside the point.

What does Jeezy's career have to do with what was going on in 2010? Out of the three, T.I. was the only one who actually made beats.

Only thing I'll give you out of your whole argument is that Gucci is the king of trap. He's never wavered from being a trap rapper and be actually put on a lot of the producers notorious for the trap sound (Luger, 808 Mafia).

Three Six Mafia was mire than Horror core. They are actually known for their Crunk songs than the horror core.

And Migos, influenced by Bone and Three Six is who popularized the triplet flow over trap beats.

"Look What I Got" isn't irrelevant. It's a standout on Trap Muzik.

You talking about clown musical, but that Gucci track you posted sounds carnival.

 

[Master Teacher]

Breh, you cited a direct quote and now you're backtracking because you really didn't know what you were talking about. I watched every part if that Khujo interview when they dropped. He's referring to Andre's verse on "Player's Ball", which wasn't Andre just talking, his trap reference was in his verse. Anyway, that's beside the point.

What does Jeezy's career have to do with what was going on in 2010? Out of the three, T.I. was the only one who actually made beats.

Only thing I'll give you out of your whole argument is that Gucci is the king of trap. He's never wavered from being a trap rapper and be actually put on a lot of the producers notorious for the trap sound (Luger, 808 Mafia).

Three Six Mafia was mire than Horror core. They are actually known for their Crunk songs than the horror core.

And Migos, influenced by Bone and Three Six is who popularized the triplet flow over trap beats.

"Look What I Got" isn't irrelevant. It's a standout on Trap Muzik.

You talking about clown musical, but that Gucci track you posted sounds carnival.

I did not have a direct quote, and I posted The video to show that Kujo said trap came from the streets, that's where he heard it from, and Andre does not reference any trapping at all on players ball, once again you're making up narratives

Three Six Mafia is known for crunk songs to people who never heard of them until hustle and flow lmao, their name use to be Triple Six Mafia they had a whole beef with Bone Thugs and Harmony, they were known as devil worshippers lmao

Three Six mafia never made trap beats lmao, Migos does not make rap music and their beats aren't trap, it's a different style of music, they make mumble rap, Trap was dead when they came out, just like mumble rap is dead now

you clearly someone who can't stay with the times and have confused yourself

you think every down south beat automatically is trap, trap has been dead over a decade, Migos beats are not trap beats lmao

Trap music was mid 2000s lmao, then white people stole the name and made it EDM genre lmao and it's been irrelevant ever since


like I said, you're a culture vulture stay in your lane

 

[JustCKing]

I did not have a direct quote, and I posted The video to show that Kujo said trap came from the streets, that's where he heard it from, and Andre does not reference any trapping at all on players ball, once again you're making up narratives

Three Six Mafia is known for crunk songs to people who never heard of them until hustle and flow lmao, their name use to be Triple Six Mafia they had a whole beef with Bone Thugs and Harmony, they were known as devil worshippers lmao

Three Six mafia never made trap beats lmao, Migos does not make rap music and their beats aren't trap, it's a different style of music, they make mumble rap, Trap was dead when they came out, just like mumble rap is dead now

you clearly someone who can't stay with the times and have confused yourself

you think every down south beat automatically is trap, trap has been dead over a decade, Migos beats are not trap beats lmao

Trap music was mid 2000s lmao, then white people stole the name and made it EDM genre lmao and it's been irrelevant ever since


like I said, you're a culture vulture stay in your lane

My last reply to this foolishness:

1) Khujo says that Andre was the first he heard say trap on a record: "I sets up trap"----- Andre 3000 on "Player's Ball".

2) "Tear Da Club Up" is what got Three Six national attention back in 1997/1998 almost a decade before Hustle & Flow

3) Nobody was referring to production as trap beats before 2010 so there's that

4) Migos is definitely trap music.

 

[Reptile]

Wayne’s music is and was 100 times better lol.

This is a damn lie. Wayne got more trash than good shyt. You dikk suck WAY too much.