It's crazy how forgettable T.I's discography is

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At the end of the day.....TI, Jeezy, Luda, Shawty Lo and most rappers from the ATL will not be remembered now or in 20 years. These rappers where pushed by big record label to young kids for bubble gum radio hits and CDs, with the purpose to be heard once and never be heard again. Just how most of these shows on Disney+, apple+, parmount+, ect. are trash and are made for simple consumption to fill a void. They are a product of the time.

If it wasn't for youtube, or apple music, ect. how many would even be thinking about or diggin up old TI, young joc, gorilla zoe, luda, or jeezy Cds. Most people who grow up on that music thinking of it in nostalgia (myself included, it takes me back), but its not classic.

When I think of 2000s hip hop/rap (when TI was at his peak), I think of NAS, Jay Z, and respectable trendsetter rappers like Kanye West, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne maybe T-Pain, Lupe Fiasco or Outcast.

but TI, Luda and Jeezy, Nelly, Big Boi, Killer Mike, Rick Ross, The Game, Young buck, shawt lo, ect. was simple disposable entertaining music to be consumed. Sure they have some hits but nothing conserdable to be a classic.

Same way the 2010s will be looked at as Kendrick Lamar decade while rappers like future, drake, migos, 2 chianz, freddie gibbs, young thug music will fade.
 
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TI not top 40 all time? ti had a hell of a run for longer than you think too with some solid albums
 

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At the end of the day.....TI, Jeezy, Luda, Shawty Lo and most rappers from the ATL will not be remembered now or in 20 years. These rappers where pushed by big record label to young kids for bubble gum radio hits and CDs, with the purpose to be heard once and never be heard again. Just how most of these shows on Disney+, apple+, parmount+, ect. are trash and are made for simple consumption to fill a void. They are a product of the time.

If it wasn't for youtube, or apple music, ect. how many would even be thinking about or diggin up old TI, young joc, gorilla zoe, luda, or jeezy Cds. Most people who grow up on that music thinking of it in nostalgia (myself included, it takes me back), but its not classic.

When I think of 2000s hip hop/rap (when TI was at his peak), I think of NAS, Jay Z, and respectable trendsetter rappers like Kanye West, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne maybe T-Pain, Lupe Fiasco or Outcast.

but TI, Luda and Jeezy, Nelly, Big Boi, Killer Mike, Rick Ross, The Game, Young buck, shawt lo, ect. was simple disposable entertaining music to be consumed. Sure they have some hits but nothing conserdable to be a classic.

Same way the 2010s will be looked at as Kendrick Lamar decade while rappers like future, drake, migos, 2 chianz, freddie gibbs, young thug music will fade.
some truth in here but totally over simplified and a lot of bullshyt...big boi killer mike the game had disposable music? how, tpain is a rapper? bro you need more hip hop history before then lol
 
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No rapper in 2006 was bigger than T.I. king was easily the biggest Hip Hop album of 2006.



T.I.'s legacy is trap music. He legitimized the trap rapper in the mainstream. There wasn't anyone in the mainstream doing that before T.I. Because of this, Trap Muzik is a classic album.

TI legacy is not trap music and never made trap music, he didn't legitimize anything trap music came after him

His album is called Trap Muzik, the music actually on the album is not hip hop, it's commercialized southern hip hop, TI was always a commercial artist with a machine behind him, the word trap was used in rap before TI its slang term lmao, TI is not the first rapper to rap about selling drugs out of a dope house WTF, he named the muzik trap music because it claiming he come from the trap and this is the soundtrack, he's not creating a new sound or music genre or even attempting to do that lmao

When Andre 3000 said why do think they call it the trap on Outkast album on the 90s does that mean he invented trap music lmao

The fact you can't tell the difference between the name of an album and a musical sub genre, is proof you aren't qualified to even have an opinion on this

Lets look at the first single from TI's trap muzik, 24's



This is not trap music, this is TI rapping over an Atlanta CRUNK beat, nothing about this is trap music

this is stunting music which was popular at the time, rappers don't even stunt anymore or make this type of music



Here's another single, he taking about a hotel, but not trapping out of it, look at this bubblegum ass shyt, these songs for the females his core fanbase is his legacy this is what he is known for in the music world not trap music lmao

You see the formula here, you got this song, then why y ou gonna do that, then you can have whatever you like, you see the pattern nikka lmao

Trap Music started with Young Yeezy and Gucci Mane's song SO ICY, that was the first time local ghetto sounding song made it's way to the mainstream, nothing about TI's music is ghetto, it's too precise and pretty sounding to be real, you don't understand music so you don't understand what I mean

So ICY was the mentality that defined Trap Music the genre, but Jeezy brought the sound which was Shawty Red Production, it was a new sound, it took the game by storm, That Trap or Die was like a goddamn pandemic, I ain't never seen the streets go crazy of a new artist ever I'm talking about the hood that don't listen to commercial rap only the local ghetto rappers

see you don't understand that, the real hood music was never in mainstream in rap, it was always fake rappers talking that stuff but only people in the ghetto had this style of music which was been around forever

I mean really playa fly, Tommy Wright III, created trap musik way back in memphis before people even knew their were southern rappers, but if you listen to their music today it mostly sounds like the current Drill Music sound, and see why because these youngins were influenced heavily by three six who bit their style from memphis others like these, real ghetto artist who never made it, but three six are fact their music was hard but it looked the rugggedness of a true ghetto sound, it was a little too prestine too pretty to truly be ghetto, it's like the difference between Stax Records and Motown Records type of sound


Study up little nikka
 

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TI legacy is not trap music and never made trap music, he didn't legitimize anything trap music came after him

His album is called Trap Muzik, the music actually on the album is not hip hop, it's commercialized southern hip hop, TI was always a commercial artist with a machine behind him, the word trap was used in rap before TI its slang term lmao, TI is not the first rapper to rap about selling drugs out of a dope house WTF, he named the muzik trap music because it claiming he come from the trap and this is the soundtrack, he's not creating a new sound or music genre or even attempting to do that lmao

When Andre 3000 said why do think they call it the trap on Outkast album on the 90s does that mean he invented trap music lmao

The fact you can't tell the difference between the name of an album and a musical sub genre, is proof you aren't qualified to even have an opinion on this

Lets look at the first single from TI's trap muzik, 24's



This is not trap music, this is TI rapping over an Atlanta CRUNK beat, nothing about this is trap music

this is stunting music which was popular at the time, rappers don't even stunt anymore or make this type of music



Here's another single, he taking about a hotel, but not trapping out of it, look at this bubblegum ass shyt, these songs for the females his core fanbase is his legacy this is what he is known for in the music world not trap music lmao

You see the formula here, you got this song, then why y ou gonna do that, then you can have whatever you like, you see the pattern nikka lmao

Trap Music started with Young Yeezy and Gucci Mane's song SO ICY, that was the first time local ghetto sounding song made it's way to the mainstream, nothing about TI's music is ghetto, it's too precise and pretty sounding to be real, you don't understand music so you don't understand what I mean

So ICY was the mentality that defined Trap Music the genre, but Jeezy brought the sound which was Shawty Red Production, it was a new sound, it took the game by storm, That Trap or Die was like a goddamn pandemic, I ain't never seen the streets go crazy of a new artist ever I'm talking about the hood that don't listen to commercial rap only the local ghetto rappers

see you don't understand that, the real hood music was never in mainstream in rap, it was always fake rappers talking that stuff but only people in the ghetto had this style of music which was been around forever

I mean really playa fly, Tommy Wright III, created trap musik way back in memphis before people even knew their were southern rappers, but if you listen to their music today it mostly sounds like the current Drill Music sound, and see why because these youngins were influenced heavily by three six who bit their style from memphis others like these, real ghetto artist who never made it, but three six are fact their music was hard but it looked the rugggedness of a true ghetto sound, it was a little too prestine too pretty to truly be ghetto, it's like the difference between Stax Records and Motown Records type of sound


Study up little nikka


You can't tell me to study up when you're misquoting Kast. Big Boi said "trap, just that trap, now marinate on that" on "Spottieottiedopalicious" from Aquemini in 1998. Andre 3000 was talking about the trap in 1994 on SPCM.

Who said T.I. was the first to talk about a trap? He was definitely the first mainstream rapper to present trap as a genre when he called his album Trap Muzik. Jeezy nor Gucci were poppin until AFTER Trap Muzik. Jeezy completely changed his style his style after Trap Muzik. He was a Trick Daddy/Pastor Troy clone before T.I. dropped Trap Muzik. "So Icy" wasn't a definitive trap record. It was a typical Southern club record. And Shawty Redd was producing Crunk records before he started doing "trap records" and Toomp says he got the sound from him. Toomp created T.I.'s sound, so there's that.

Then to reduce "24's" as stunting music all while trying to prop up "So Icy" as the mentality of "trap". Then you ignore "Rubberband Man" completely, which is definitely trap mentality.
 
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At the end of the day.....TI, Jeezy, Luda, Shawty Lo and most rappers from the ATL will not be remembered now or in 20 years. These rappers where pushed by big record label to young kids for bubble gum radio hits and CDs, with the purpose to be heard once and never be heard again. Just how most of these shows on Disney+, apple+, parmount+, ect. are trash and are made for simple consumption to fill a void. They are a product of the time.

If it wasn't for youtube, or apple music, ect. how many would even be thinking about or diggin up old TI, young joc, gorilla zoe, luda, or jeezy Cds. Most people who grow up on that music thinking of it in nostalgia (myself included, it takes me back), but its not classic.

When I think of 2000s hip hop/rap (when TI was at his peak), I think of NAS, Jay Z, and respectable trendsetter rappers like Kanye West, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne maybe T-Pain, Lupe Fiasco or Outcast.

but TI, Luda and Jeezy, Nelly, Big Boi, Killer Mike, Rick Ross, The Game, Young buck, shawt lo, ect. was simple disposable entertaining music to be consumed. Sure they have some hits but nothing conserdable to be a classic.

Same way the 2010s will be looked at as Kendrick Lamar decade while rappers like future, drake, migos, 2 chianz, freddie gibbs, young thug music will fade.

:mjlol: shut up man
 

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At the end of the day.....TI, Jeezy, Luda, Shawty Lo and most rappers from the ATL will not be remembered now or in 20 years. These rappers where pushed by big record label to young kids for bubble gum radio hits and CDs, with the purpose to be heard once and never be heard again. Just how most of these shows on Disney+, apple+, parmount+, ect. are trash and are made for simple consumption to fill a void. They are a product of the time.

If it wasn't for youtube, or apple music, ect. how many would even be thinking about or diggin up old TI, young joc, gorilla zoe, luda, or jeezy Cds. Most people who grow up on that music thinking of it in nostalgia (myself included, it takes me back), but its not classic.

When I think of 2000s hip hop/rap (when TI was at his peak), I think of NAS, Jay Z, and respectable trendsetter rappers like Kanye West, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne maybe T-Pain, Lupe Fiasco or Outcast.

but TI, Luda and Jeezy, Nelly, Big Boi, Killer Mike, Rick Ross, The Game, Young buck, shawt lo, ect. was simple disposable entertaining music to be consumed. Sure they have some hits but nothing conserdable to be a classic.

Same way the 2010s will be looked at as Kendrick Lamar decade while rappers like future, drake, migos, 2 chianz, freddie gibbs, young thug music will fade.

A classic record is called a classic when people react to it within the 1st 5 seconds YEARS down the line

Nelly has them
Jeezy has them
Even that krytptonite song might sneak in there based off region..

Lupe Fiasco shouldn’t even be mention amongst the artists you compared him with
 

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A classic record is called a classic when people react to it within the 1st 5 seconds YEARS down the line

Nelly has them
Jeezy has them
Even that krytptonite song might sneak in there based off region..

Lupe Fiasco shouldn’t even be mention amongst the artists you compared him with

This.

I would even say Luda has classic songs and T.I. "Roll Out" and "Welcome To Atlanta" are classics. I would even put "Move" and "Southern Hospitality" up there. T.I. has classics specifically "What You Know About That", "Bring Em Out" and "You Don't Know Me". I'd argue "ASAP" and "Motivation" as well.
 

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Yes that beat sounds cheesy as hell, the sounds in the beat are so outdated they sound silly

this shyt does not sound good

This is how I know yall got bad taste, and only listented to TI when Trap Music came out

because you didn't post his best song which is from his First Album I'm Serious, before he went commercial, and rapped with that fake ass super country voice he stopped using all of a sudden when he tried to be the jay-z of the south lmao, this man is a joke

but here is the closet TI has to a classic song, the only song he's ever made that is still listenable today



The fake I'm saying TI's catalogue ain't shyt, but at the same time posting his most official joint, proves I know what I'm talking about and yall some culture vultures

and this shyt still luke warm


Dope boys was a great song.
 

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His album is called Trap Muzik, the music actually on the album is not hip hop, it's commercialized southern hip hop, TI was always a commercial artist with a machine behind him, the word trap was used in rap before TI its slang term lmao, TI is not the first rapper to rap about selling drugs out of a dope house WTF, he named the muzik trap music because it claiming he come from the trap and this is the soundtrack, he's not creating a new sound or music genre or even attempting to do that lmao
When Andre 3000 said why do think they call it the trap on Outkast album on the 90s does that mean he invented trap music lmao

The fact you can't tell the difference between the name of an album and a musical sub genre, is proof you aren't qualified to even have an opinion on this

Lets look at the first single from TI's trap muzik, 24's



This is not trap music, this is TI rapping over an Atlanta CRUNK beat, nothing about this is trap music

this is stunting music which was popular at the time, rappers don't even stunt anymore or make this type of music



Here's another single, he taking about a hotel, but not trapping out of it, look at this bubblegum ass shyt, these songs for the females his core fanbase is his legacy this is what he is known for in the music world not trap music lmao

You see the formula here, you got this song, then why y ou gonna do that, then you can have whatever you like, you see the pattern nikka lmao

Trap Music started with Young Yeezy and Gucci Mane's song SO ICY, that was the first time local ghetto sounding song made it's way to the mainstream, nothing about TI's music is ghetto, it's too precise and pretty sounding to be real, you don't understand music so you don't understand what I mean

So ICY was the mentality that defined Trap Music the genre, but Jeezy brought the sound which was Shawty Red Production, it was a new sound, it took the game by storm, That Trap or Die was like a goddamn pandemic, I ain't never seen the streets go crazy of a new artist ever I'm talking about the hood that don't listen to commercial rap only the local ghetto rappers

see you don't understand that, the real hood music was never in mainstream in rap, it was always fake rappers talking that stuff but only people in the ghetto had this style of music which was been around forever

I mean really playa fly, Tommy Wright III, created trap musik way back in memphis before people even knew their were southern rappers, but if you listen to their music today it mostly sounds like the current Drill Music sound, and see why because these youngins were influenced heavily by three six who bit their style from memphis others like these, real ghetto artist who never made it, but three six are fact their music was hard but it looked the rugggedness of a true ghetto sound, it was a little too prestine too pretty to truly be ghetto, it's like the difference between Stax Records and Motown Records type of sound


Study up little nikka

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He's a singles rapper.

U pick a few gems from the albums and that's it.

This is false.

T.I. was always better than singles. Some of his singles were the weaker joints on the albums. He had heat beyond just singles. Ya'll grasping at straws now just saying anything because it's open season on a rapper well past his prime. Half the BS being posted here you could apply to about any rapper and the tiredest, most played out argument of them all is the old "it aged horribly" shtick.
 

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TI trash 🗑️

Y’all will realize it one day.

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