Its disgusting how SCARED Jay-Z and Big were during the EAST VS. WEST BEEF

[ucanthandlethetruth]

That's because he wasn't on their level yet.


Money & Power.


That's the only way to start a dialogue with kingpins.

If you have a nuke and the next nikka only has a couple of guns, he's going to have to retreat, or get blown the fukk up.

But if he has a nuke and you have a nuke, then you can meet at the conference table, and formulate a few stipulations.


That's why some of them same nikkaz couldn't fukk with 50...his money got crazy.Like Yayo said " 50 got ninja money"


But yeah, that's why Pac didn't go directly at them cats.They knew that.Napoleon from the Outlawz said he was there when nikka approached Pac with a message from Jimmy Henchmen telling Pac "You don't wanna go to war with me, you don't even have your money straight"


I think Pac going at Puff y and Big the way he did was only strategy.He knew they were Henchmen/Jacques bytches, so he slapped them around a lil bit.He wasn't trying to literally murder Big, just kill his "Big Poppa" image.By doing that, he'd indirectly fukk with Henchmen's money.Pac had already spoke out about "mafia nikkaz" having Bad Boy under extortion.He figured they were just scared lil bytches anyway.

Pac knew the only other nikka in the game who had a nuke strong enough to match Henchmen/Jacque/BMF back then was Suge Knight.That's why Pac singed with Deathrow IMO.He knew it was a shady label, but they had that nuke.


You give Pac another 2-3 years in the game, i have no doubt in my mind that he would've blown up to a level where he would've been able deal with them nikkaz.same as 50....if 50 could do it, so could Pac


nikkaz quick to glorify Henchmen/Jacque and them nikkaz when they're in cahoots with federal agents/snitches

And quick to diss a nikka who was brave enough to stand up to the corruption that was going on behind the scenes at the time.Pac wasn't the only rapper/entertainer that them nikkaz "disciplined"....he just wasn't afraid to fight back

 

[WaveGang]

Did Pac even diss Jay-z while he was alive? As far as he goes, why would he have a beef with Pac before he mentioned his name?

you've never heard ether have you

 

[blackslash]

he is a cornball, but hes a better producer than Diddy, more influental than Jay Z, and one of the only rappers with a better album than illmatic

Dre is more influential than Dre??

Ur West Coast savior Kdot rides Jay's dikk waaay more than Dre or even Pac

 

[RR_049]

love this kind of threads

 

[NvrCMyNut]

Facts:


NYers jimmy henchman, hatian jack, and king tut str8 put the paws on pac. instead of retaliation pac made records snitching on them (fact)

2 of the 3 moved to and Lived in Los Angeles, California after putting the paws on pac(fact)

jimmy and jack proceeded to continue to eat in the music industry on the west coast after giving pac that goon work and EVERYONE knew.(fact)

both jimmy and jack LIVED in LA with no fux given about tupac,suge knight or death row and no one from Cali did shyt to either of them(fact)

All 3 men have gone untouched for laying the paws on pac till this very day 10/16/2013 (fact)

them nikkas from NY was so scared of "the west" they moved there

someone tell me any of these facts are lies

 

[smokeurobinson]

OP destroyed his whole argument by mentioning the Jay Z video.....Pac hadn't mentioned Jay Z's name once when that video dropped so in a way it was as if Jay was taking a hot first....How can u be scared if u taking the first shot??? Op failed to mention it was that exact video that caused Pac to begin mentioning Jay's name.

 

[FreshAIG]

That's why I could never respect Mobb...I hate subliminal disses.That shyt is p*ssy to me.nikka just say that it cotdamnit


It's like a nikka using his hand to pretend like he got gun underneath his shirt.Goofy shyt

The original "Drop A Gem" had Pac's name but he died before they released it so they took his name out

 

[Sampson]

Pac was a great artist, but he was out of his element in the streets. Nicca took so many Ls yet is still praised. That's a testament to his acting ability.

Got shot up, got his ass kicked, and raped in NY. He knew who did it, but decided to diss random rappers to vent his anger. What kinda nicca does that?

Ran to Suge, got extorted and then disposed of after he started questioning his paper.

This is who niccas look up to?

 

[MoneyBags]

I was just watching the video to Presidents and they threw all those subliminals at the end of the video...

Why not just name names?

How are you taking the righteous route, not go back and forth on wax but then throw subliminals...

Why gossip around your friends over drinks and board games like women?

@3:36 mark

all those subs? type them each out, there wasn't even that much talknig at the end, wTF are you talking about. there was ONE thing that you could have reached and said was a sub, and that was, "California...a lot of money there..." and that was said by Biggs, the silent partner of Roc-A-Fella that no one knew at the time, what are you talking about?

 

[L. Deezy]

wait, lmaooooooooooo

nyggas make threads about "BEING SCARED"?? was it mentioned that nyggas died behind this shyt?

These nyggas knew it was deeper than a verse. I cant believe this is a topic. THE MAIN PARTICIPANTS DIEEEEEEEEEEEED

 

[Wild self]

When you think about it, the West had an unfair advantage back from 91-96.They had the better production, they had the fame and the Oakland Raiders fashion, and even had people outside the east coast on they dikk (n/h) wanting to be a crip or a blood.

 

[skillz2]

When you think about it, the West had an unfair advantage back from 91-96.They had the better production, they had the fame and the Oakland Raiders fashion, and even had people outside the east coast on they dikk (n/h) wanting to be a crip or a blood.

Better production?

The East had Pete Rock, Primo, RZA, Q-tip, Eric Sermon etc. in their prime, while West only really had Dr Dre and few other dudes who sounded like him.

 

[Wild self]

Better production?

The East had Pete Rock, Primo, RZA, Q-tip, Eric Sermon etc. in their prime, while West only really had Dr Dre and few other dudes who sounded like him.

Those producers made classic beats, but its headphone music. Anyone outside the east wasn't trying to hear that. The rest of the country wanted to have beats for their rides and all.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

They ain truly about the action like them LA nikkas

LA nikkas is about dying over nothin., you right, we not bout that.

 

[Demon]

Jay is alive and has enough money to buy your dusty ass family to become his servants.

Big may be dead, but he was so much of a better rapper than Pac, it wasn't even funny. He got publicity off his skill, Pac got his because he was "shocking"

I'd say the east won.

And, Mobb Deep > Pac too.

rest in piss, fake thug fakkit