2Pac let's be friends is the song that he said fukk Jay-Z. It was released on one of those post death pac albums. I think it was the end of time album. Jay-z also said "can I live pt 2" "I don't even hate on those of hate me, I got pac on"
Its disgusting how SCARED Jay-Z and Big were during the EAST VS. WEST BEEF
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ThaRealness
Superstar
they werent about the drama... big just wanted to get his money
Big Skilly Films
All Star
As usual the ny old headsas fukk
yeah thats why we keep making these threads
You just conveniently forget that Hov, Nas and Puff are still the 3 kings of this shyt. The rest of you nikkas is playing catchup.
thats all that needs to be said
@ mentioning jimmy henchman and the like, as if they're the topic of discussion. we're talking about rappers vs rappersnumerous west coast rappers calling out ny rappers by name and ny rappers responding with subliminals
kurupt saying "fukk ja rule" and "fukk dmx" fukk irv gotti etc and not so much as a "fukk off" back
wsc, ras kass, dogg pound... seems like the only ny rapper to ever say something direct is tim dog
MooseMouthMthafuga
Veteran
Oh 4 sho......Go head and let it marinate...no baby oil this time
nhThat's because he wasn't on their level yet.
Money & Power.
That's the only way to start a dialogue with kingpins.
If you have a nuke and the next nikka only has a couple of guns, he's going to have to retreat, or get blown the fukk up.
But if he has a nuke and you have a nuke, then you can meet at the conference table, and formulate a few stipulations.
That's why some of them same nikkaz couldn't fukk with 50...his money got crazy.Like Yayo said " 50 got ninja money"
But yeah, that's why Pac didn't go directly at them cats.They knew that.Napoleon from the Outlawz said he was there when nikkaz approached Pac with a message from Jimmy Henchmen telling Pac "You don't wanna go to war with me, you don't even have your money straight"
I think Pac going at Puff y and Big the way he did was only strategy.He knew they were Henchmen/Jacques bytches, so he slapped them around a lil bit.He wasn't trying to literally murder Big, just kill his "Big Poppa" image.By doing that, he'd indirectly fukk with Henchmen's money.Pac had already spoke out about "mafia nikkaz" having Bad Boy under extortion.He figured they were just scared lil bytches anyway.
Pac knew the only other nikka in the game who had a nuke strong enough to match Henchmen/Jacque/BMF back then was Suge Knight.That's why Pac singed with Deathrow IMO.He knew it was a shady label, but they had that nuke.
You give Pac another 2-3 years in the game, i have no doubt in my mind that he would've blown up to a level where he would've been able deal with them nikkaz.same as 50....if 50 could do it, so could Pac
nikkaz quick to glorify Henchmen/Jacque and them nikkaz when they're in cahoots with federal agents/snitches
And quick to diss a nikka who was brave enough to stand up to the corruption that was going on behind the scenes at the time.Pac wasn't the only rapper/entertainer that them nikkaz "disciplined"....he just wasn't afraid to fight back
Glorify shady cut throat nikkaz who hijacked artist talents and worked as informants/snitches for the FED's, brehs
numerous west coast rappers calling out ny rappers by name and ny rappers responding with subliminals
kurupt saying "fukk ja rule" and "fukk dmx" fukk irv gotti etc and not so much as a "fukk off" back
wsc, ras kass, dogg pound... seems like the only ny rapper to ever say something direct is tim dog
NY responds with violence
2Pac gets killed
Dogg Pound got their trailer shot up
Kurupt diss DMX, his bodyguard gets killed
West Coast rappers run to the booth
Animal House
Superstar
That's why I could never respect Mobb...I hate subliminal disses.That shyt is p*ssy to me.nikka just say that it cotdamnit
It's like a nikka using his hand to pretend like he got gun underneath his shirt.Goofy shyt
hold up mobb stated right after pac died they had 4 songs that were left off hell on earth aimed at pac.
they left drop a gem on em because it was a sub
Animal House
Superstar
i remember when this happened Kurupt hid his tail real quick
i lived in cali back then and everybody knew who shot the bodyguard
shyt was crazy because nikkaz talk that tough guy shyt until blood starts to shed
yea and ny rappers were comin to cali and getting met with open arms and a pound of weed right
dont even have to post the long list of ny rappers getting robbed/shot at all over california.
and it continues to happen
MooseMouthMthafuga
Veteran
Them toddler sized nikkaz say a lot of shyt, but they not built like that.After I saw how them Puerto Rican cats had them nikkaz shook on that Beef DVD, I knew they were some posing ass midgets.
Pac already addressed what happened with MOBB.
Called them some "buster ass babies"
...who got souped up by their block...and hopped into some shyt they really had no business hopping into.Lil teenage nikkaz trying to bang on wax,when it's really some real life mafia shyt they shouldn't have got involved in.
Just a bunch of subliminal ra ra shyt ....They wasn't no Jacques or Henchmen's.....Just lil cap gun nikkaz making noise in the background.
"Next time grown folks is talking, nikkaz close your mouth" buster ass babies
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
calculated move my ass.
biggie was behind-the-scenes trying to recruit a bunch of east coast rappers to diss 2pac.
if big wasn't shook, he wouldn't have had to do all that chit. not to mention that he threw the first shots on wax and hid his hands.
updap this post. you're making up stuff. yes big made that diss. and so did a few others say a few unsavory things about kwame and his outfits. the truth is, when big hit, kwame was already PLAYED OUT. lets be clear. big didnt end his career. his career was ending as big stepped in. if big never said that. we still wouldnt have been bumping kwame.Dissing rappers by NAME was what you did back then
"And those that rushes my clutches get put on crutches
Get smoked like dutches from the master
Hate to blast ya, but I have ta, you see I smoke a lot
Your life is played out like Kwame, and them fukkin polka dots" - Big on "Unbelievable" from Ready To Die....his debut album in 1994
If you dont know who Kwame is, which you probably dont since you're a youngin, this was him:
He was known for "polka-dots" and came out in 1989. After BIG dissed him, his rap career was basically ended, because the people were riding BIG so heavy at that time. Yall talk about "ETHER"? Kwame still talking about this as recent as 2011
1 line breh....name dropped.....career ended.
That's my GOAT Notorious B.I.G. aka Frank White
biggaveli31
Rookie
Pac died 3 months after he released hit em up, for those that don't know.
lol at this clown trying to lump his by idols with a true icon
ucanthandlethetruth
Failure is not a option
Oh 4 sho......Go head and let it marinate...no baby oil this time
That's because he wasn't on their level yet.
Money & Power.
That's the only way to start a dialogue with kingpins.
If you have a nuke and the next nikka only has a couple of guns, he's going to have to retreat, or get blown the fukk up.
But if he has a nuke and you have a nuke, then you can meet at the conference table, and formulate a few stipulations.
That's why some of them same nikkaz couldn't fukk with 50...his money got crazy.Like Yayo said " 50 got ninja money"
But yeah, that's why Pac didn't go directly at them cats.They knew that.Napoleon from the Outlawz said he was there when nikkaz approached Pac with a message from Jimmy Henchmen telling Pac "You don't wanna go to war with me, you don't even have your money straight"
I think Pac going at Puff y and Big the way he did was only strategy.He knew they were Henchmen/Jacques bytches, so he slapped them around a lil bit.He wasn't trying to literally murder Big, just kill his "Big Poppa" image.By doing that, he'd indirectly fukk with Henchmen's money.Pac had already spoke out about "mafia nikkaz" having Bad Boy under extortion.He figured they were just scared lil bytches anyway.
Pac knew the only other nikka in the game who had a nuke strong enough to match Henchmen/Jacque/BMF back then was Suge Knight.That's why Pac singed with Deathrow IMO.He knew it was a shady label, but they had that nuke.
You give Pac another 2-3 years in the game, i have no doubt in my mind that he would've blown up to a level where he would've been able deal with them nikkaz.same as 50....if 50 could do it, so could Pac
nikkaz quick to glorify Henchmen/Jacque and them nikkaz when they're in cahoots with federal agents/snitches
And quick to diss a nikka who was brave enough to stand up to the corruption that was going on behind the scenes at the time.Pac wasn't the only rapper/entertainer that them nikkaz "disciplined"....he just wasn't afraid to fight back
Glorify shady cut throat nikkaz who hijacked artist talents and worked as informants/snitches for the FED's, brehs
alot of what ifs and no what had actually happened was.....
facts homie.
pac signed to death row october 1995. thats a whole year b4 he died why didnt the "suge nuke drop" on them boys?:
after pacs death what happened to "the suge nuke"? # iraq
what makes yall idiots look worse with the lies is pac's shooters/ them NY nikkas lived comfortably in the west no fux given for years
they wasnt visiting nikka they was living in LA eating good
those are facts not "well in 3 years pac calculated he would
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