"It's surreal the American Black males fate intertwines so much with guns" - Coli breh

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Many black ppl in the hood do not know how to resolve conflict without violence (I'm gonna beat your ass, I'm gonna clap him).

For people who grow up in stressful environments and live in a society (America) where emotional outbursts (ex. yelling) are seen as conducive to conflict resolution - it's a deadly mix with the addition of ample deadly weaponry.

Americans need to raise their children to resolve conflicts through empathy, compassion and understanding.

Americans need to create more environments for all where people aren't stressed due to poverty, systemic racism etc.

Americans need to restrict and reduce deadly weapons.

 

[Samori Toure]

A Coli breh said this in the Nipsey thread in the Booth on Sunday night. @Marc Spector
Nipsey Hussle Has Passed Away -RIP

Of all the posts in that thread, that's the statement that has stuck in my mind the past few days b/c it's just so sad that it's true.



I don't even need to say anything more on it, you can just stop and think about it yourself.

All Africans fates are intertwined with the gun. It is because of the gun that many of our ancestors were enslaved. The gun is the reason that our ancestors were kept in slavery; and it is the instrument that allowed Africa to be colonized.

The native people were slaughtered by the gun too.

 

[bewitched]

Its the American way.(this country's obsession with guns) but the effects of gun violence is more pronounced and catastrophic to the black community than any other group of people living here.

My theory is that we tend to overcompensate our powerlessness in American society through the glorification and use of guns. Having a gun in your hand gives you power. You dictate the outcome of things with one.I think we have to find other ways to instill pride which in turn will develop into power in a positive sense amongst ourselves as people that does away with having a criminal mindset that leads violent destruction via guns.

 

[xoxodede]

The issue is illegal gun markets. If the U.S. did more to attack them and work on the socio-economic issues in areas where gun violence is high -- a change will come.

frontline: hot guns: "How Criminals Get Guns" | PBS

 

[UberEatsDriver]

The US has a higher violent gun rate death than Afghanistan - a country that's been at war since 1979 (40 years).

Yup and the American media has the nerve to fool their people into think that they are the savages!

 

[Samori Toure]

because we haven't been at war in the US for the past 40 years.

More bullshyt. If there is one thing that there has been plenty of in America it is wars all of which have increased the violence in communities, because the wars were not designed to stop anything except people escaping its ultimate violence.

War on drugs.
War on Drugs | United States history

War on poverty.
War on Poverty | United States history

War on gangs.
Trump's War on Gangs


Notice there has never been a war on guns.

 

[YouMadd?]

It's not just an American Black male thing -- nor Culture thing.

I would check out the stats. Gun violence is a major issue globally and needs to be halted.

NPR Choice page

But who accounts for the majority of American gun violence deaths? How much longer are we going to ignore this shyt!!! My God

 

[YouMadd?]

The issue is illegal gun markets. If the U.S. did more to attack them and work on the socio-economic issues in areas where gun violence is high -- a change will come.

frontline: hot guns: "How Criminals Get Guns" | PBS

Illegal guns will always exist, that’s the point of a black market. You don’t just get rid of a black market.

Why is it that we use being poor as an excuse for violence against eachother? That’s not a good excuse anymore.

 

[xoxodede]

More bullshyt. If there is one thing that there has been plenty of in America it is wars all of which have increased the violence in communities, because the wars were not designed to stop anything except people escaping it ultimate violence.

War on drugs.
War on Drugs | United States history

War on poverty.
War on Poverty | United States history

War on gangs.
Trump's War on Gangs


Notice there has never been a war on guns.

This is true. If you check stats and increase in killings amongst our people -- it directly correlates to drugs being flooded in our communities. It wasn't music -- it wasn't our culture -- it was planned out attack on Black America.

There is a direct and clear reason why these issues happened in our communities.

The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.

— John Ehrlichman, to Dan Baum[44][45][46] for Harper's Magazine[47] in 1994, about President Richard Nixon's war on drugs, declared in 1971.[48]

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Between 1984 and 1989, the homicide rate for black males aged 14 to 17 more than doubled, and the homicide rate for black males aged 18 to 24 increased nearly as much. During this period, the black community also experienced a 20–100% increase in fetal death rates, low birth-weight babies, weapons arrests, and the number of children in foster care.[6] The United States remains the largest overall consumer of narcotics in the world as of 2014.[7][8]

A 2018 study found that the crack epidemic had long-run consequences for crime, contributing to the doubling of the murder rate of young black males soon after the start of the epidemic, and that the murder rate was still 70 percent higher 17 years after crack's arrival.[9] The paper estimated that eight percent of the murders in 2000 are due to the long-run effects of the emergence of crack markets, and that the elevated murder rates for young black males can explain a significant part of the gap in life expectancy between black and white males.[9]

The reasons for these increases in crime were mostly because distribution for the drug to the end-user occurred mainly in low-income inner city neighborhoods. This gave many inner-city residents the opportunity to move up the "economic ladder" in a drug market that allowed dealers to charge a low minimum price.​

 

[xoxodede]

Illegal guns will always exist, that’s the point of a black market. You don’t just get rid of a black market.

Why is it that we use being poor as an excuse for violence against eachother? That’s not a good excuse anymore.

It's not -- but people kill people they are around. Add in poverty, mental health, drugs, instability -- and it's a recipe for disaster. We just have it more rampant in the U.S. -- and it's tied to our history and treatment in this county.

The majority of guns in Black communities come from illegal gun markets -- black markets -- therefore you crack down on them -- you will see a decrease. They not just going to walmart to buy them.

 

[YouMadd?]

It's not -- but people kill people they are around. Add in poverty, mental health, drugs, instability -- and it's a recipe for disaster. We just have it more rampant in the U.S. -- and it's tied to our history and treatment in this county.

Mental health is the real problem. I’m 100% with you breh.

 

[xoxodede]

Mental health is the real problem. I’m 100% with you breh.

It's bad -- and under-diagnosed in many of the high-crime areas. It really needs to be taken seriously. Inherited depression,Transgenerational trauma, shame -- it's real and it's killing people daily.

 

[El Bombi]

A huge majority of homicides are by gun.

 

[Citi Trends]

It's bad -- and under-diagnosed in many of the high-crime areas. It really needs to be taken seriously. Inherited depression,Transgenerational trauma, shame -- it's real and it's killing people daily.

It does. As someone who deals with mental health issues and has it run in my family, I know first hand.
Even when seeking help it is so hard to find someone to talk regarding specific issues as a black man/woman. Most of the people you come across for therapy, psychologists, psychiatrists, counselors etc...will have no real connection or understanding of what you're really feeling.

Add on to that, the fact that black people are often misdiagnosed with certain illnesses, which leads to not getting the proper help and medication. And that's if you even need medication. Alot of times you'll either be shoved pills and forgotten about or not given anything at all because your problem aren't taken seriously.

African-Americans more likely to be misdiagnosed with schizophrenia, study finds: The study suggests a bias in misdiagnosing blacks with major depression and schizophrenia
Racial disparities in psychotic disorder diagnosis: A review of empirical literature

this even goes back to the civil rights movements
How Schizophrenia Became a Black Disease: An Interview with Jonathan Metzl

When you tell of the aggravation or anger you inevitably develop as a black person living in america, instead of delving deeper into that you are treated as a delusional angry person and never get proper treatment.

 

[Vilify]

The quote in the op is not wrong but guns are merely a tool. Anger and the propensity to use violence to solve everything is the real issue.