It's time for a Black Defense Military

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I take every bytch I talk to... even random rats, to the gun range w me, teaching gun safety. My floor is strategic in my building. In the neighborhood[at my house] it's nothing but c00ns who feel like CAC are their friends. but on my floor at my studio.... everyone is pro black and conscious. The Comcast dude, i left him to install some shyt..... two of the dudes went into my apt cuz they saw a cac on the floor.
and the CAC had to call me to put me on speaker phone w fear in his voice:banderas:

That's how it should be.
We even have it w the leasing office that they can show our apartments off if they let us decided who stays. so far we have two erykah budu style chicks and some dude w dreads whose cool. Everyone on the floor has guns. and will ride.

I think all hoods should be set up like this. with everyone helping each other.

Man this sounds like a good situation....:salute:

I think an anti defamation league would be better. Friends should really work on themselves more than anything at this point in time.
Ya know, even though I'm on the pro-black gun train...I definitely agree with this.

The NAACP has run it's course completely...it's time for a new organization that doesn't concede, cooperate, or give any breaks whatsoever. The Anti-Defamation League is ALWAYS in the mix when there is even the SLIGHTEST HINT of antisemitism. Especially when it comes to the fukking media (Where, contrary to popular belief, blacks are consistently the biggest targets in movies and television).
 

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I'm considering the same thing.

I've heard that a shotgun is the best for basic home defense, but of course Revolvers seem to be the most simple to use.

Within the next 18 months, I will definitely be a gun owner.

The New Jim Crow era is upon us, and I'll be damned if me and mine don't have at least some basic protection.

Yea, I've heard the same, so it's definitely on the list for me (maybe not first purchase tho), but I feel the same way. I lack basic protection and it's about time to change that.

And like the guy on the first page said, I plan on taking all willing bodies out to the range and spreading the experience, once I get myself right
 

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This is one of the most idiotic threads I've ever read in HL. Just what black communities need...more guns...you know because there's a shortage. :dead: We have to be armed and ready for George Zimmerman and Michael Dunn. Ignore that 93% of murders of black people are committed by other black people. This is some twilight zone shyt. :heh:


It isn't specifically about Dunn or Zimmerman, but the belief that shooting blacks is okay, and the way in which its propped up by the system. The same system that for the most part ignores the black on black crime...

There is no defense for it.
 

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So what you saying is that rampant unemployment , drugs and street gangs that are glorified and the lack of a future are not the problem but small isolated cases of whites killing blacks are the true enemy of the working poor black people of the world ? Instead of educating and fixing the community up we should arm ourselves against the chance of whites attacking us? Better yet we should go on the attack and form armies to take back the nation. We need a navy also to hold the shores. I bet you the type of guy just to lead us right from your computer screen. This is fukking moronic but it better than working and being educated I guess.

Why can't we have it all? Why can't we work on black health, black education, and black defense, all at the same time? Ideally, these things would all work under the same movement...as they did under the Black Panthers as other posters have pointed out.

And enough with the reductionist crap. People only use that shyt against the black community...no other movement is ever told "WHAT ABOUT X" like we are. It's stupid. Aside from being able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time as I and others already talked about....it's also condescending towards our sensibilities and undermines the HUMAN aspect of any force that wants cultural change.

You could literally shut down any movement with an appeal to something "worse".

Why are you worried about Black Americans when there are Black Africans in dire situations? Why are you worried about African poverty when global warming is ruining the planet? Why are you worried about global warming, when we know that Heat Death is eventually going to destroy the universe?

See what I mean? Where does it fukking end? It doesn't, and that's why it's a worthless position. We can only account for our own sensibilities and our own feelings. We're humans like everyone else. Yeah, we have other issues in our community right now....but if social justice is what's really moving people, than that's simply what's moving people, and outsiders need to stop trying to interfere.

Lastly, and I almost forgot this even though it's apparent....you make it seem as though black people aren't concerned about "drugs and street gangs" (LMFAO, is this 1992?). This is yet another shytty aspect to that argument...people just ignore entire aspects of reality to fit some sort of agenda. Black folks BEEN concerned about the issues in our community. There is no single issue in our community that goes ignored (And coincidentally/sadly, we can thank white folks for that).This kind of ties in with the overarching point that we can walk and chew but...yeah, we've got the whole street gang thing covered partner, now lets talk about how we can better protect ourselves.

A cac? 93% of murders of black people were perpetuated by other black people, but you goofy ass dudes are talking about making armies because of Michael Dunn. :dead:

People who say this are missing the point.

It's not about trying to win some all out war against America...that's impossible, for anyone.

Nor is it necessarily JUST about protecting ourselves against those (admittedly) rare instances where we actually need a weapon.

Above all else, a rise in Black Gun Ownership would send a CLEAR MESSAGE to outside groups that we have had enough of this bullshyt and that the next dude you think you are going to "Stand Your Ground" against might just be packing some heat of his own.

You ever notice how there are all these stories and articles written about how, as soon as Barack was elected, gun ownership SOARED across white America? Why do you think that is? And what message do you think that whites are collectively sending to non-white groups? They are trying to put some fear into us. "Know your place". "The old guard is still here". The majority of those owners will never have to use their weapons....but they are being given a greater protection : Symbolism.

You honestly don't believe that if there were stories and evidence of Black Armament that we would benefit from that?
 

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One of the reasons i'm planning on purchasing one soon. Even have fam (who were supposedly anti-gun) on board and ready to learn how to use one now.
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EVEN THOUGH I DON'T AGREE WITH THE OP'S PREDICTION THAT CACS ARE "ABOUT TO ATTACK BLACK FOLKS EN MASS," I WOULDN'T IMMEDIATELY MALIGN THE SPIRIT OF HIS PROPOSAL, BROTHER! AMERICA HAS AN OLD AND WELL-KNOWN PRECEDENT OF ORGANIZED VIGILANTE POLICING, DUDE! MILITIAS, POSSES, AND DEPUTIZED CITIZENS, MEAN GENE! IT WOULDN'T BE UNWISE FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO EXPLORE SUCH POSSIBILITIES, JACK! THE ORIGINAL BLACK PANTHER PARTY CERTAINLY COMES TO MIND, TOUGH GUY! AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME, I DON'T THINK THE PANTHERS WERE LETTING ANY OF THAT TYPE OF shyt SLIDE ON THEIR TURF, CHAMP!

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IN TODAY'S POLITICAL CLIMATE, IT'S STILL TABOO TO TALK ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE ARMING THEMSELVES SIMPLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF SELF-DEFENSE, BROTHER! NICKI MINAJ SHOULD REALLY BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF FOR TRIVIALIZING WHAT MALCOLM X WAS TRYING TO CONVEY IN THAT FAMOUS PHOTOGRAPH, DUDE! AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING, BROTHER? I DON'T KNOW THE FULL CONTEXT BEHIND THAT PICTURE, JACK! IF ANYONE KNOWS THAT STORY, HOLLYWOOD WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT, BRAAAH!
 

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the problem with this view is, black population is the highest growing one in the world. our race has the second highest population behind asians. whites are diminishing. africa is about to enjoy a population explosion that may push us into first place.

this idea that we are being wiped off the face of the earth is self-defeatist nonsense that isn't grounded in reality. i'm as angry as the next black man about what's happening with these cacs gunning down our children. but don't get things confused. blacks are exploding as a population, and that's one of the reasons whites are scared.

All the more reason to defend ourselves. Prevention.
 

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I see a lot of people talking about black on black crime. Couldn't a black defense group be a deterrent for that? :patrice: BTW, I have to stress this again, you do know the government collects information, can declare you a threat to national security and even drop a drone missile on your location, right?
 

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EVEN THOUGH I DON'T AGREE WITH THE OP'S PREDICTION THAT CACS ARE "ABOUT TO ATTACK BLACK FOLKS EN MASS," I WOULDN'T IMMEDIATELY MALIGN THE SPIRIT OF HIS PROPOSAL, BROTHER! AMERICA HAS AN OLD AND WELL-KNOWN PRECEDENT OF ORGANIZED VIGILANTE POLICING, DUDE! MILITIAS, POSSES, AND DEPUTIZED CITIZENS, MEAN GENE! IT WOULDN'T BE UNWISE FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY TO EXPLORE SUCH POSSIBILITIES, JACK! THE ORIGINAL BLACK PANTHER PARTY CERTAINLY COMES TO MIND, TOUG GUY! AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK CRIME, I DON'T THINK THE PANTHERS WERE LETTING ANY OF THAT TYPE OF shyt SLIDE ON THEIR TURF, CHAMP!

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IN TODAY'S POLITICAL CLIMATE, IT'S STILL TABOO TO TALK ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE ARMING THEMSELVES SIMPLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF SELF-DEFENSE, BROTHER! NICKI MINAJ SHOULD REALLY BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF FOR TRIVIALIZING WHAT MALCOLM X WAS TRYING TO CONVEY IN THAT FAMOUS PHOTOGRAPH, DUDE! AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING, BROTHER? I DON'T KNOW THE FULL CONTEXT BEHIND THAT PICTURE, JACK! IF ANYONE KNOWS THAT STORY, HOLLYWOOD WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT, BRAAAH!
There is no "black community," first of all. There's just millions of people who happen to share a similar ethnic background, who live in a plethora of diverse communities across America, just like white people. I don't know why people continue to do this monolithic lumping together of us just like white people do.

Nobody is ultimately beholden to take care of anyone else with physical force except their own household. Community policing and communal sharing activity in general can be a good thing. Making a race-based military is implausible because far too many black people live in neighborhoods of mixed race.

The Black Panthers did their "policing the pigs" because police brutality in black neighborhoods was completely out of control in the 60's, worse than even today, and there was no consequences at all for it, so they took matters into their own hands and they should be applauded for it. Though that was just one part of their overall vision.

A prerequisite for something like this would be a drastic sea change in conditions and culture, otherwise it's just a bunch of more guns on the street in the hands of people who statistically most likely to be victims of gun homicide. If you're talking about lower income black neighborhoods, a lack of guns is obviously not the problem. It's not just drug dealers and gangsters with guns. Regular everyday people have guns and the crime rates are still disproportionately high. If you go to more affluent black communities, there isn't as much a problem with gun violence. Also it's not like black people can't be prone to itchy trigger fingers that result in tragedy against their own kind as well. Look at dude who just killed a that 15 year old girl girl for egging his car. Look how many times black people get killed over and bullshyt like "he disrespected me" or over a girl.

So at the end of the day, more guns ain't solving shyt as far as an organized strategy, especially in situations where the family structure is broken, fathers are nowhere to be found, there's little youth supervision or options. You'd have to somehow turn these fatherless, aimless, nihilistic Waka Flocka/Cheif Keef youth into disciplined citizens with strong civic responsibility before you can start some paramilitary organization, and that in itself is exponentially more vital than the existence of said organization.

I'm not opposed to gun ownership and self defense. I'm a gun owner myself. I've posted pics of one of my guns here before. I have no issue with responsible gun ownership. This notion that black people need to form a black military to protect themselves from the lightning strike-unlikely event that they get killed by a Dunn or Zimmerman while ignoring that if they do get killed, there's a 93% chance the person will be black is just :dahell: though. Let's be practical and not be ruled by irrational fear and isolated news sensationalism.
 
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@Mephistopheles you have to take off the liberal glasses so that you won't miss the point.
You're not incorrect in your facts about crime n all that... but somehow you're ignoring the overall Point.
 

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Man this sounds like a good situation....:salute:

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So here is the deal. IMO....

shyt was set up like this before I moved here and these brothers are older and more focused and conscious that I am - so I'm basically just following along.

I just found out yesterday that one dude has a family name and link that goes back to the 60's, we control through agreements who moves in. Everyone looks out.. and beef is handled in a good way, because the person who would start it... has no backing - there is no thug culture. Zero crakkers. I'm the only one who even speaks to CAC outside of work.. and I have 1 white business partner that was questioned for even coming on the floor.

Point is.. when I moved in, one dude gave me a projector screen and projector. Another hooked me up with a deal on furniture. I already let a dude borrow some money. It feels like more of a community. I haven't paid for kush yet. Even a old dude as a bad ass daughter who is like 22, I'm not gonna even try to fukk out of respect - which is extremely unusual. Humans are like animals in a lot of ways and that feeling of absolute protection and safety leads to stronger communities.


Meanwhile, back at my house. I don't even fukk w that neighborhood anymore. I just keep some shyt there. nothing but c00n black people and white hipsters. 4 blocks away is the projects.. and a nikka is popped it seems weekly There is no community at all.
 

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I actually agree with meph to a certain extent. I think an overall change in culture is needed first. These youngins have NO concept of discipline
 

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I'm not white you fukking uneducated piece of shyt. I hope you and if have kids are sterile so you line ends when you die, the world will be a better place without you in it.
He probably has an education and I can see why he thought you may be a white poster.

Consider this... We are divided as a people. Militia groups, military groups, any self defense group, martial artistist who are training for years in the same place, community political groups, etc, all are tight-nit and have unity.

Sure, the black deaths aren't only coming from CAC.. but the ignorant nikkas who are out shooting are just pawns in a larger system.
The black militias and armed black communities can deter both groups from their terror. Thugs only shoot at other thugs over money, drugs, etc... they aren't usually targeting women, children, kids, and random citizens. There have been cases that gang members have been calmed down and absorbed into positive parts of the community. Many issues are allow to flourish due to fear- this is just one step in taking away that fear.... responsible gun owners in mass.


And who said this is a fix to all problems... there can still be a focus on other things
 
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@Mephistopheles you have to take off the liberal glasses so that you won't miss the point.
You're not incorrect in your facts about crime n all that... but somehow you're ignoring the overall Point.



Come on dude! Dude is a cac!! Everytime we have a conversation about better ourselves, these "agents" come out of the woodworks and bring confusion! Y'all REALLY need to stop responding to them! They been really destroying these threads! Y'all gotta have better sense than this!
 
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