It's time to redefine who is "Black"

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So being called a ****** makes you black?

Being discriminated against makes you black?

I don't even know what a "significant black background" is...that's sounds like something a white person would say around another white person to describe black people who "grew up poor" or "grew up around violence"...

Identify with the "black experience?" Why is there even one? I've never heard of the "hispanic experience"...or the "asian experience"...so why is there a "black experience"...that is to dumb black culture down to a point that says "if you just experience the things that black people do or act the way black people act, you can be black to"...I disagree with this wholeheartedly...

You seem to be telling me that just because white people think these children to be black...and then disparaged them for that...that automatically makes them black...I don't agree with this line of thinking at all...

"Hey little Jimmy did that white man look at you funny and did that white woman clutch her purse when you got close to here...don't worry you can come over here and hang with us since all that stuff those white people did to you means your black. What did you say...your mother looks like Madonna? Oh that doesn't matter your skin is only 2 shades lighter than mine...your black."

I don't even understand this inclusive talk...if you come from a mixed race family, you are biracial...that's just what it is...that is an actual group of people...are you telling me it is the black communities job to "take in" biracial people? If so, why? Why isn't it the biracial communities job to "take in" biracial people?

That whole "significant black background" thing blew my mind...no way your not just some fukking white dude...only a white person's brain would work in a way to even form the phrase "significant black background"...

Alright it's becoming pretty clear you don't have a concrete point to make.

You'll have to pardon my use of significant black background. Maybe I misread what you posted but I read that as the entire point you were trying to make. We can't have those folks with just a little black background running around trying to help the cause or anything can we?

Yeah the "black experience". No one thing does or doesn't make someone black or not but we have a common relatable history. Ya know, it's the reason we study history outside of our direct lineages. Black people from all over the world can relate to Malcolm X (whose blackness you deny) and Martin Luther King Jr even if we aren't their sons or daughters.

I say inclusive because we only need to look at the incredible variety of skin tones black people have. Those exclusive white st0rmfr0nt types you identify with so much only have a small sliver and they insist on keeping that sliver of attributes as pure as possible. We have everything else. Jesse Williams to Jesse Jackson.

I don't know if you've heard of this stuff but something called racial discrimination occurs quite frequently in America. I'd argue that a large percentage of black folks have experienced something like this or at least knows someone who has. I know it's a bold point but I'd say it's pretty safe to include that in the black American experience by and large.

You aren't gonna win playing by white supremacist rules. They aren't wrong because they're white, they're wrong because their logic if faulty. Being black doesn't make you right if you use the same line of thinking. If they're exclusive, we have to be the opposite.

I've spent a lot of time reading about this stuff and am always eager to share with brothers who haven't. First thing I can recommend to you is John Hope Franklin's From Slavery to Freedom to give you a detailed but not too wordy history of that whole black experience thing I mentioned earlier. Let me know if I can clear anything else up for you.

And feel free to pm me that resume for your new tutoring gig.
 

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Biracials not being Black does not mean they can't access the part of their ancestry that is Black and/or be pro Black.
 

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So explain to me how these men are "black" instead of "biracial"...

This is the exact type of thing I am talking about...

His skin is dark and he made soulful music...he is black...

He was a militant leader for black rights...he is black...

He is a president who has dark skin...he is black...

This follows a trend of "if you do something for the black community or something the black community likes, you can be black...your actual biological birth parents do not factor into the equation at all."

You should post pictures of Leonardo DiCaprio, Bill Gates, and George Clooney...because you would be hard pressed to find 3 other men in this world who have invested more time, money, and effort into trying to help poor black people in Africa
Only 10 percent of the gates foundation has gone to africa the rest has gone to first world countries.

Pleasee stop being mesmerized by these cacs
 

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im talking about mixed people isnt this about if they should be referred to as black?
My thing is we may not have even be referred to as black if it wasn't for our English slaveholders and they called all slaves black. Why divide now when we should be trying to unify now more than ever? I aint about to do the master's work for him
 

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Lets redefine black :snoop:

What we should be doing is doing our research and find out who the fukk we really are and not let these white folks tell us who we are. Dammit I wanna know if Im Ibo or Bantu, etc. White folks always talk about they proud to be Irish or Italian or Polish or whatever. But we get lumped all into one group
 

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Lets redefine black :snoop:

What we should be doing is doing our research and find out who the fukk we really are and not let these white folks tell us who we are. Dammit I wanna know if Im Ibo or Bantu, etc. White folks always talk about they proud to be Irish or Italian or Polish or whatever. But we get lumped all into one group
African ancestry.com
 

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There are too many great moolatoes for me to disrespect by saying they aren't Black. A lot of (not all) members of the diaspora have some European blood in them anyway.

That being said, we have to stop comparing apples with oranges when we classify ourselves.
You cant be half Dominican and half Black, but you can be a Black Dominican or a can be a mixed Dominican. You can't be half Arab and half Black, but you can be a Black Arab or brown/mixed Arab.



Back to the topic--- I look at it from different perspectives..

Historically + scientifically:
Black to me is anyone who's phenotype matches the various African types, AND anyone whos direct ancestors didn't adapt/mutate due to the cold harsh climate of Europe during the last glacial period (circa 10,000 years ago).

Australian aboriginals are Black

Khosian are Black
Several south Asians (some filipinos) are Black
The original inhabitants of the Levant and Arabia are Black

This isn't to say that these people didn't mix eventually with non-Blacks (Arabs and filipinos did) at some point in time to create a "new" people, but they are just as Black as the rest of us slave descendants. Unfortunately, the media doesn't really promote the image of our brothers and sisters living in those areas... I wonder why:sas1:




Scientifically:
Lets do some melanin tests:troll:.......:patrice:.................:sas2:


I hear that different races are more susceptible to certain diseases ( think als, sickle cell, alcoholism). If you match up historically with the phenotype, and the science backs it up, you:myman:. You can research your ancestry via DNA testing.The results can be misconstrued so be aware, but it wont hurt. If more than 50% (some say 60% or 75%) of your ancestry is African, you :blessed:



Socially:

Who and where you grow up has an impact. In the US, "Black" means something different than if we were in Brazil (theres a bunch of different skin tones they use to classify all types).

You need to be around your people whether it be at school, work, social gatherings. If you live in a majority non-Black area, you should be going extra hard in those books learning about Black history from Ancient Nile Valley to Civil Rights Movement. You should be trying to link up with the few Black people you see.



I don't do this background check on every Black person out there because today it really doesn't matter. My point is theres more to being 'Black' than being "pure" or by your skin tone, or your country of birth, But its something to think about.....



Once the seeds of the Colitants grow up and actively work towards a legit form of reparations, don't be surprised when all these new Blacks, and their new new Black seeds start wearing their Blackness with pride... They all :pachaha:+:feedme: like they weren't telling everyone else they "moved on" and slavery dont affect them...Or worse, watch these negropeans fight u:scust:...



But thats another topic:ohhh:
 

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Are Baraks' daughters black? :patrice:
3/4ths black, yeah. a lot you nikkas got cac in you too :sas2: AAs shooting 17% avg with cac dna
You sleep with the enemy you have no interest in destroying him. That goes for the pawg life nikkas too. Negropeans. They aren't the same as me and others. I'm not considering those people to be Black. c00ning has gotten so bad that it's come to this. These people need to be left to rot, and be excommunicated from the Black community.
eh, that's a bit extreme. as long they don't forget they're black theyre good to me. Love doesn't have a colour
 
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