I've never heard this much "referee/cheating" talk regarding the NFL (Chiefs)

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For all you guys denigrating the Patriots dynasty, give me five controversial calls that went in their favor? It was a 19 year run, so if what you guys are saying is true, it should be easy.
 

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One thing the NFL did for Brady was the now infamous "Brady Rule" after he blew out his knee. It likely extended his career (along with some bum QBs as well) and is why it's dumb to try to compare his accomplishments to the QBs that came before him. The NFL changed a lot from the 80s/90s to the mid 2000s and beyond. They went completely overboard protecting QBs.

Some will say "I don't want to watch backups in the playoffs" but that's literally what the NFL was. The 49ers would be lucky to have Montana healthy by the end of the playoffs.
You know that Carson Palmer started that rule first. Stop fronting. Brady nor Palmer lobbied for that rule change. Yet Manning did campaign for change, but gets a free pass for it. Totally senseless bullshyt.
 

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This is very true. I remember when we were on top.

Plenty of crazy calls are called throughout the league but Chiefs ones are under a microscope right now!
Crazy calls get made all over.

Multiple close/suspect calls a game for one team every week is a different story.
 

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Crazy calls get made all over.

Multiple close/suspect calls a game for one team every week is a different story.
Why people keep denying this shyt is beyond me. I am far from a conspiracy theorist, but my eyes see what they see. These panderers talking about the number of calls, are disingenuous. It is always about the timing and the absurdity of them. If you notice, when they said the ruling on the field stands, after the Allen 4th down sneak, the crowd didnt know how to react, because it was initially ruled a Buffalo 1st down!! They were confused!!
 

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It's a product of this era. People are miserable and negative so everything gets spun that way. And they have tools and technology to go down the rabbit hole. And the "mainstream" media which is desperate for clicks and ratings has started covering it. You have all kinds of blatant cheating throughout the history of sports that either gets ignored, laughed off, or spun. Pretty much all the teams that had long dominant runs got calls. People will try the sanctimonious, "I just want fairness" routine but for most it comes down to whether or not they like the team getting the calls.
 

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All time great teams/players get favorable calls.

Go watch 90s bulls games and see what calls Jordan got. Shaq and Kobe lakers, 90s Yankees, Brady patriots, etc etc
 

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Those of you who says it’s rigged but not bet on the chiefs are dumb as hell.

Just throwing money away :mjlol:
 

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The Patriots were hated because they were good and Brady was a pretty boy dating models and Belli was an a$$hole. They had aura as villains. They also beat up on the Jets so NY hated them. Realistically, you could never argue the refs gave them any unique sort of calls any other marquee QB didn’t get. You never felt Brady got more calls than Peyton or Brees or Rodgers. The tuck rule was stupid but was called before and after that game.

That was 2002. There isn’t any particular call or play that anyone can point to during their runs after that where you can say the refs gave them a game or made a call in their favor in a big moment. That’s why people bought so much into spygate and deflategate because they needed to explain them being good. With the Chiefs, people are reacting to a team get every close call in prime time every week. And then we flash to Taylor Swift. I can acknowledge that their calls are magnified like any call Brady or the Pats got but they’ve gotten more calls this season than the entire 20 year reign of Brady.
"Tuck Rule" which began their run
 
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The difference between now and the past is that with cameras everywhere and replay, if the refs get something wrong, people cry cheating.

In the past they wouldn't even have the right view for a call and it couldn't be changed anyway. As a Falcons fan I've seen plenty of games where the 49ers got some bullshyt calls.
This plus the fact that everyone now has a platform from which to spout their opinion, and a willing audience of likeminded listeners,

I was once told never to attribute malfeasance when blame can just as easily be laid at the feet of incompetence - ie it’s so much more likely that someone has fukked up as opposed to the dark arts being at play.
 
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Chiefs rarely get called on holding calls or any calls that are egregious . They won a superbowl against the eagles off a bad call is what it is . I think the taylor swift thing definitely plays a factor. Mahomes is rarely behind the sticks due to any calls, they literally ref them different than other teams

Good teams in general don't get called for holding (unless it's the Cowboys or Raiders having a good season).

I remember seeing Jason Kelce, Lane Johnson etc., getting away with holding and false starting quite a bit when watching the Eagles play the last few years. It's honestly one of the worst penalties in sports because you can call it on nearly every play....yet it's generally only called when the refs/league want to manipulate outcomes or at least the flow of a game.

Numerous times I've seen Micah held by 2 or 3 guys in clear view and nothing gets called. Dallas goes on offense, hits a couple of big plays and then like clockwork, a magic holding penalty is called. The penalty will be legit but they wait until there's positive momentum to call it.
 
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