J. Cole - KOD (Discussion Thread)

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after listening to this for the whole weekend as well as today while traveling, I'd say this is a consistently good album from Cole. It may not have the highs of his previous work but I do believe from start to finish, this is a good listen. He cut down on the stuff that made his previous projects at time corny, childish, similar and the end product is something that's refreshing to me. Some might say he dumbed it down, but I think he tried something different and got a hit. He should still cut down on the singing and get some actual singers for those parts, would elevate the music.

Now I don't know if this point has been touched on, but I take the album to be more about maturity than anything. Having these problems we have whether due to our own actions or not, we have to find actual introspective answers to them, and not simple surface-level stuff. Maybe I'm off-base but that is the major theme that stuck out to me. In 1985, you hear him not diss new rappers, but give them big brother/fatherly advice which follows the theme of the whole album.
 

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You formed an opinion on something before you fully consumed it.

I wouldn't be surprised if you did this with the album. It's a lot of people who leaving reviews without even listening/digesting these days. To each his own.
gave the album two thorough listens. Cole can't pull off good concept albums. the production is bland as well. :yeshrug::umad:
 

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This is pretty much how I feel in a nutshell, I think Cole is the best pure RAPPER out of the big 3–but he not a great writer or that great at making MUSIC.

This album exposed that.

He needs to start working with other people, because this whole “ima lock myself in a studio alone and make an album in a couple weeks” shyt is bringing the quality of his catalog down.

You can tell this was made in 2 weeks, it sounds like a rushed concept album that’s not as deep as people are making it out to be.

He dedicated an entire diss record to LIL PUMP (a rapper that won’t be around in 3 years) and nikkas is acting like this is some timeless classic when it’s not even in his top 3 best projects.

He missed on this shyt, point blank period.

The stans and the “certain intelligence” nikkas can force themselves to listen to this shyt 100x and convince themselves this is some classic but in 3 months no one will be listening to this.

This is better than 4YEO but what does that mean? Cuz that shyt was off base too.

He missed twice in a row since Forest Hills Drive.

It’s looking spooky for J.Cole right now, the nikka that was supposed to pick up where Hov left off. :huhldup:

He is a great writer and great at making music ur wilin
 

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Cardi B is entertaining. I have books, lectures, and graduate school degrees for all that wannabe intellectual shyt. You ain't impressing me when I look at music to be entertaining. You make it sound like you have no social life. Do you walk around on frown all day?

Cole is nice on here, but another "capitalizm sux" critique is so played out to the point its not really helping anymore. Its just more try-hard shyt. Yes Cole. We know you wanna control how your tax dollars are spent. How about do what Cyhi did?




Heres the thing.

If you wanna rap about that shyt, make it dope.

Hov did that.






You want credit for merely checking the box of "he said it in a line"...thats not how this works.

now dont get me wrong, I think Cole did well on here...but he didn't KNOCK IT OUT.

He's very surface level. No real punchlines or metaphors or similes or indications that he understands ideas enough to flip them to the point where they make lasting and visceral connections.

You all hate Drake, but this is what makes him so potent lyrically. He says things beyond the surface level that resonate with people in ways they carry with them. Its the essence of an idea that Cole is missing. Either cause he can't write as well or he just doesn't have the talent to do so after all this time.



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Cardi is not entertaining b and drake is not lyrically potent lol
 

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This album is solid, it's actually great.

I didn't like KOD during my initial listens, I was very disappointed; production: lacking & hooks: unbearable. After seeing and loving the visuals for ATM, I thoroughly enjoy the song, which glanced over during my initial listens. Later I decided to face my fear and listen to KOD again to confirm my disdain; that didn't happen. It resonated with me; production and hooks that were initially lackluster, became understood and infectious after I listened and digested the lyrical content.

I can play it from top to bottom without skipping a track.

I hope people re-visit KOD. it's a dope album.
I hope J. Cole continues with the dope visuals which will help people listen, digest, and re-visit KOD. The visuals [particularly ATM] make J. Cole more personable, like a cool ass creative dude.
 
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