J. Cole - KOD (Discussion Thread)

[Peak]

ALSO YOU PROBALLY LIKE THAT SONG THE MOST IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF THE SUBLIMINAL DISSES TO DRUGGY RAPPERS, AND THE CURRENT CULTURE AT LARGE.

Again, your theory is lost on me.

 

[CrimsonTider]

He decides to switch from Magna Carter after Cole puts out 4YEO.
Hell of a coincidence imo. But hey you make a good point about Jay Z varying conventional and modernized production from albums to album.

But I can't help believing that J Cole having some success with the content and production of 4YE made Jay feel more comfortable making an album like 444 in terms of production and content.

It's not a just a boi oneda beat "De Ja Vu" samples a female vocal from 'Swing My Way" K.P and envyi from the 90s . Jay Z Moonlight single does the same and samples the female vocal with Lauren Hill.

Cole's has been successful with every album and his content has been the exact same since the COME UP. Why would Jay z be influenced by 4YEO and not any of Cole's other music?

 

[Moose_Greyjoy]

I like this album. It’s good hiphop

 

[Asicz]

Again, your theory is lost on me.

Ok. No diss but could you stop replying because you.having hard time keeping up with the rest of the class. Everbody else in the thread seems to ccomprehend.

 

[gluvnast]

lol

You serious?

Dead serious. There's a hierarchy in TDE starting with Top Dawg & Punch. Kendrick still have to await their last say on all of his projects AND they dictate when his project should be released. J. Cole is his own boss with his own label. He can literally do whatever he wants and drop it whenever he feels like it.

 

[Peak]

Everbody else in the thread seems to comprebend.

They do?

 

[Ricky43]

Drake didnt share a state with Future Drake performed for 1 hour and 30 minutes and Future did 20 minutes

Drake sold out MSG 4 days straight.

Cole is not on Drake or Kendrick's level. Future, Migos and Sean are very close or equal to Cole.

My bad I said Kendrick did MSG he didn’t and won’t until this new tour...I’m not understanding how you think those people are close to cole when nobody talks about them this much when they drop nor do they have the selling power of Cole. You are taking about Sean for example a person who opened for the person you claim is equal

 

[Ricky43]

Dead serious. There's a hierarchy in TDE starting with Top Dawg & Punch. Kendrick still have to await their last say on all of his projects AND they dictate when his project should be released. J. Cole is his own boss with his own label. He can literally do whatever he wants and drop it whenever he feels like it.

This is exactly what I mean this is why I say he has the best career out of all 3 drake/cole/Kendrick

 

[Asicz]

Cole's has been successful with every album and his content has been the exact same since the COME UP. Why would Jay z be influenced by 4YEO and not any of Cole's other music?

Artist probally get hit with inspiration at varied times and for varied reasoons
I think the critical failure of Magna Carta played a part. The critical reception of 4YEO was decent to very good, that played a part.

 

[Asicz]

They do?

Breh you still asking questions and still kinda slow comprehending the simple discussion.

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[Harry B]

He decides to switch from Magna Carter after Cole puts out 4YEO.
Hell of a coincidence imo. But hey you make a good point about Jay Z varying conventional and modernized production from albums to album.

But I can't help believing that J Cole having some success with the content and production of 4YE made Jay feel more comfortable making an album like 444 in terms of production and content.

It's not a just a boi oneda beat "De Ja Vu" samples a female vocal from 'Swing My Way" K.P and envyi from the 90s . Jay Z Moonlight single does the same and samples the female vocal with Lauren Hill.

Inception things,
so Cole is inspired by Jay-z's producers like Kanye West, who himself is inspired by No ID, whose signature sounds is inspired by J Cole

 

[KingTut]

Can you please tell me how he's going at Lil Pump on that song when here clearly states he's talking about someone black?

I don't converse with nikkas who have Cardi B avis, kick rocks fairy, don't quote me again.

 

[BigMan]

liking this more and more the more i listen.

 

[GoldenGlove]

Dead serious. There's a hierarchy in TDE starting with Top Dawg & Punch. Kendrick still have to await their last say on all of his projects AND they dictate when his project should be released. J. Cole is his own boss with his own label. He can literally do whatever he wants and drop it whenever he feels like it.

This is exactly what I mean lol

That's management. Not really a knock on his creative freedom with his music.

Section.80, GKMC, TPAB and Damn. weren't lacking in creative freedom at all. Each sound completely different, and the content isn't necessarily ideal for the face of a label.

Kendrick has always had creative freedom with his releases...we can't say the same for Cole who's openly admitted to compromising his sound/vision in his debut just to get a release date. And now, later on in his career, he appears to be trying to make up for that with his recent releases

 

[Medio]

Drake didnt share a state with Future Drake performed for 1 hour and 30 minutes and Future did 20 minutes

Drake sold out MSG 4 days straight.

Cole is not on Drake or Kendrick's level. Future, Migos and Sean are very close or equal to Cole.

Sorry bro but I gotta reply to this dumb ass shyt.

Migos and Sean are not even close to Cole.
There is a top tier in rap right now and it’s drake and Cole and Kendrick. Drake at the very top and Cole and Kendrick tied for 2.

You can’t put big sean in the same sentence, first of all, he was opening for cole in 2015 and yea he has his own tour now but that shyt don’t sell out in minutes ( there’s still tickets available), like Cole does.

And don’t get me Started on future and migos smh, must be trolling