J Dilla's 1994 beat tape

[Insensitive]

Bill Evans is one of my favorite pianists of all time right alongside Duke Ellington, Herbie Hancock and Ahmad Jamal.

 

[Budda]

There's two Jazz Gawds I point to that inspired the biggest distinction in Dilla's style with his swing: Ahmad Jamal and Bill Evans, especially Jamal. That stuttery type of rhythmis really prevalent in Ahmad's early stuff like:



To understand Dilla is to understand Ahmad

Ahmad Jamal is in my top 10 musicians of all time

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

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[chunky_mcdaniels]

All I'm saying is
Pete Rock "leads to" "Is the predecessor to" or "precedes" J. Dilla without
Pete Rock, J. Dilla is a very different producer.

For a Jazz equivalent, if there's no Satchmo, there's no Miles Davis.
If I'm saying something unreasonable though breh, I'll gladly take any additional
information.

Pete is on record saying J took his blueprint further and was superior to him.

It is what it is.

 

[Insensitive]

Pete is on record saying J took his blueprint further and was superior to him.

It is what it is.

You're right and I made sure to acknowledge that.

I never implied that Dilla is in anyway behind Pete Rock on the boards.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Pete was Dilla's idol indeed, but jazz music is the predecessor to both, those fellas swings are different than everyone else. I'll throw Quik in there too.

It's all really a stew between Blues/Jazz/Funk with Blues being the father!




many of the Rock N Roll drummers from the the 50s had that what we now call the "Dilla" drums; and everyone knows all the drummers back then came from Jazz roots. In the 1960s, many of the Southern Soul/Funk drummers were playing delayed backbeats with that same Dilla feel

 

[Yapdatfool]

This is a fair and logical statement. It's also fair to say Dilla surpassed Pete Rock and never looked back, whereas Pete Rock got stuck sonically at some point in the 90s and never recovered.

To PR's credit he has expanded his style (and beat making machinery) a little bit and still remained dope.
PR is one of those pillars of hip-hop that doesn't need to change a damn thing sonic-ally.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

It's all really a stew between Blues/Jazz/Funk with Blues being the father!




many of the Rock N Roll drummers from the the 50s had that what we now call the "Dilla" drums; and everyone knows all the drummers back then came from Jazz roots. In the 1960s, many of the Southern Soul/Funk drummers were playing delayed backbeats with that same Dilla feel

Lee Dorsey Get Out of My Life Woman is one of my go-to drum breaks for this reason. The swing is impeccable

 

[Bugzbunny129]

Dilla would study all the legends. When u heard his cuban linx 2 beats were him studying rza i saw the rza style all over his later run.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Dilla would study all the legends. When u heard his cuban linx 2 beats were him studying rza i saw the rza style all over his later run.

He also had that one beat where he perfectly imitated mid 90s Premo:

 

[JulesMusic719]

Pete Rock ------> Dilla

Anyone who is trying to learn the craft and study it should know that Pete Rock is immensely important to
contemporary Hip-Hop production and heavily influences music TO THIS DAY.

Dilla said he looked up to Pete Rock...by the time Dilla passed, Pete Rock said he looked up to Dilla..let that marinate

 

[Insensitive]

Dilla said he looked up to Pete Rock...by the time Dilla passed, Pete Rock said he looked up to Dilla..let that marinate

You're right and I made sure to acknowledge that.

I never implied that Dilla is in anyway behind Pete Rock on the boards.

I'm going to quote myself here.
One love breh.

 

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[KingsOfKings]

Don't know how I missed this thread.

 

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