J.R. Smith talks MJ vs. LeBron, Steph Curry & Ben Simmons

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the gap is not that great

the point is six rings & the perfect finals record is not happening

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The gap is that great and it's the difference between being 2 for 3 in the finals and 3 for 3 if the roles were reversed.

And Oh now that's the point. It went from "he couldnt make it to the ***post.s(e)ason*.*" to no rebuttal as to how kobe won 2 out of 3 rings being a baby jordan to "point is he's not getting 6 rings cause i say so".
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I am a MJ stan, but let me say we have never seen Bron with a HOF coaching staff that could build a team around him to make him work on his flaws and make him play to his strength.

MJ had a HOF cast and HOF coaching staff during most of his career. That's a simple undisputable fact
Pat Riley and the Miami Heat organization plus Wade/Bosh/kyrie/love/Ray Allen isn’t enough?
 

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The gap is that great and it's the difference between being 2 for 3 in the finals and 3 for 3 if the roles were reversed.

And Oh now that's the point. It went from "he couldnt make it to the ***post.s(e)ason*.*" to no rebuttal as to how kobe won 2 out of 3 rings being a baby jordan to "point is he's not getting 6 rings cause i say so".
:mjlol:

Ok br(0).*

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we can say that repeat dynasty runs became harder to pull off

so who's to say kobe in mjs position doesn't do as well if not better than mj

then folks would be saying mj is a baby kobe

it gets ridiculous whenever you try and draw comparisons between players from different eras

i don't deify mj

you keep your perspective i keep mine(even though mj himself agrees with what i'm saying)

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that instinct was suitable for that era

a dominant 1v1 iso player could carry you to victory damn near

we see now how 1v1 players with tunnel vision can freeze things up in the current style of play

they changed the rules in part to prevent players like mj from being a virtual ace card

as he said out his own mouth he would not have had the career he did playing under the post 01 rules

& we don't know how much crazier brons #'s would be if teams had to try & contain him with committed man2man defense

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I agree with a lot of that, but MJ was just an altogether different kind of animal.

We've never seen a dude with generational athleticism in unison with technical wizardry/IQ/Competitiveness like MJ.

He was half text book/half amazing.His execution was the most awesome/crisp shyt ever seen on a basketball court.

Plus hi mental was unbreakable.He was the ultimate killer.Drop him in any generation, I'm putting my money on him being the

best player in the game.
 

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I agree with a lot of that, but MJ was just an altogether different kind of animal.

We've never seen a dude with generational athleticism in unison with technical wizardry/IQ/Competitiveness like MJ.

He was half text book/half amazing.His execution was the most awesome/crisp shyt ever seen on a basketball court.

Plus hi mental was unbreakable.He was the ultimate killer.Drop him in any generation, I'm putting my money on him being the

best player in the game.
yes he was the best of his generation

doesn't change that factors beyond his control do determine his success to some extent

like i said the goat said it with his own words

:mjgrin: i'm just agreeing with him

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we can say that repeat dynasty runs became harder to pull off

so who's to say kobe in mjs position doesn't do as well if not better than mj

then folks would be saying mj is a baby kobe

it gets ridiculous whenever you try and draw comparisons between players from different eras

i don't deify mj

you keep your perspective i keep mine(even though mj himself agrees with what i'm saying)

:mjlol:

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You're talking in circles and then pouting after being shown how nonsensical you are.

Simply pointing to kobe to dispel your "he wouldn't make the p(0)st.season**.*" argument only looks like deification of mj to you because of how extreme you were in your degradation of mj.

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You're talking in circles and then pouting after being shown how nonsensical you are.

Simply pointing to kobe to dispel your "he wouldn't make the p(0)st.season**.*" argument only looks like deification of mj to you because of how extreme you were in your degradation of mj.

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i didn't say he wouldn't make the postseason playing in his prime in this era

i stated the fact that he failed to gun his way to the postseason in those two runs with the wiz

& bro you're really arguing with me

if this nikka gonna tell you himself that his career would be different

:mjcry: you finna say no no no mj you can do it you can do anything

mj's keeping it real while his stans are idealizing him & mythicizing his abilities

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i didn't say he wouldn't make the postseason playing in his prime in this era

i stated the fact that he failed to gun his way to the postseason in those two runs with the wiz

Jesus Christ you are all over the place. You first said mj said from his own mouth that he wouldn't have had the same career playing under 01 rules

as he said out his own mouth he would not have had the career he did playing under the post 01 rules

To which i said

"Before the All-Star break, Jordan was only one of two players, along with Kobe Bryant, to average more than 25 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists as he led the Wizards to a 26–21 record, and the only player to average more than 25 points, 6 rebounds, and 5 assists."

Again, his career would've been fine if he was doing that as a 38 year old man zapped of his athleticism with a bunch of clowns on his team.

Then you said post 01 he wouldn't have made it to the playoffs and that hero ball is dead etc


post 01 that solo.solo shyte couldn't get him to the postseason

After dispelling your nonsense by asking you how kobe did it then, you ignored that question and proceeded to going back and forth. Now you're now saying that you're not talking about his career or his prime "just his wizards years:lolbron:".

Excellent troll job:mjlol:. Bron stans yall:mjlol:.

Nowhere did Jordan say he wouldnt win 6 rings. His quote is open to interpretation. Legends from hubie brown to Phil jackson to larry brown say jordan would dominate today.
 

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Jesus Christ you are all over the place. You first said mj said from his own mouth that he wouldn't have had the same career playing under 01 rules



To which i said



Then you said post 01 he wouldn't have made it to the playoffs and that hero ball is dead etc



After dispelling your nonsense by asking you how kobe did it then, you ignored that question and proceeded to going back and forth. Now you're now saying that you're not talking about his career or his prime "just his wizards years:lolbron:".

Excellent troll job:mjlol:. Bron stans yall:mjlol:.

Nowhere did Jordan say he wouldnt win 6 rings. His quote is open to interpretation. Legends from hubie brown to Phil jackson to larry brown say jordan would dominate today.
:mjgrin:so you're right mj's wrong¿

ok my bad i'm done

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Jr doesn’t have a choice, say anything else and he will be on the first flight to Orlando Magic
 

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you're fukking full of shyt. LeBron had a hof staff around him in Miami. Riley and Spoelstra. they literally gave him the blueprint to become the best version of himself. its why he tried to replicate it in cleveland. fukk you talking about? and since 2010, Lebron had had more offensive talent around him than Jordan EVER had. Jordan played "15" seasons and had a "hof" level talent from 91-93, 95-98 with Pippen and 95-98 with a mid to late 30s Dennis Rodman. the ONLy prime Hof player he played with was Pippen.

LeBron played with prime Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Kevin Love. and a mid to late 30s Ray Allen.
It's weird how so many LeBron stans downplay the situations he's been in since 2010. You'd think he's played with nothing but JJ Hicksons since he left Cleveland the first time.

On top of that, we've seen him quit or sabotage his team numerous times in that same time span. First year was bumping into Spo and trying to get him fired; went ghost in those Finals.

Mysteriously had cramps and sat out the end of game one in San Antonio in 2014.

Just left the Cavs for a couple weeks and went back to Miami in 2014-15 after saying it was a process when he first went back.

Quit on Blatt in 2015-16 so the team had to fire him and install Lue. Refused to run any of Blatt's system.

This year, just stopped trying in mid-December through early February until they overhauled the roster.

I'm sure MJ wanted some upgrades or changes, but when he didn't get them, he just tried harder. LeBron has a history of shutting down when he doesn't get EXACTLY what he wants.
 
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I am a MJ stan, but let me say we have never seen Bron with a HOF coaching staff that could build a team around him to make him work on his flaws and make him play to his strength.

MJ had a HOF cast and HOF coaching staff during most of his career. That's a simple undisputable fact
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