Ja Rule "Black People need to come together as an entity to figure out the N-Word"

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Because being a "nikka" is sensationalized like it's supposed to be a Great thing.

They're no different than the other Poorer children trying to find their Self Esteem and Wisdom from the Arts. If you condemn them then you gotta condemn all of the Poor black kids who don't take advantage of Job Programs and Grants and all of the like only exclusive to them. That is a real thing too uknow

I don't buy that bs. They are weak and irresponsible. Poorer children do no have the means, connection, and often family networks, they have to look outside of themselves to build self esteem. People who have non-ratchet parents, grandparents and great grandparents do not need to look to the local dope man and hang out with hood boogers for validation, love and mentorship as they have it internally. I also mentioned that there are plenty of people in the hood made it out and didn't get caught up and hood shyt. Those were the kids who were always in a book, at work, at sport practice, in the house with their fam, not in the streets and not associating with people who weren't about business. Dad taught us that being poor is not a bad thing as life and poor choices happen however being poor should be temporary and you should always have your own.
 

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And banning it gives it more power than it already has. If we're going to ban that word, then it's time to look at derogatory terms as a whole.

My point is, the problem isn't the word. It's how the listener interprets it. What does the person on the receiving end of the word feels when hearing the word? More importantly, why do they feel that way when hearing it? That's what needs to be explored because that's the root and source of the issue.

Banning a word is extreme and unrealistic.


That may be your point but your point is wrong :manny:

Banning/Restricting it would neutralize the word. And since Human Beings are so trendy that it would be in no time that people simply would just disappear over time.


I don't know one grown ass person who would say No to an idea like that. Seriously :yeshrug:
 

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I don't buy that bs. They are weak and irresponsible. Poorer children do no have the means, connection, and often family networks, they have to look outside of themselves to build self esteem. People who have non-ratchet parents, grandparents and great grandparents do not need to look to the local dope man and hang out with hood boogers for validation, love and mentorship as they have it internally. I also mentioned that there are plenty of people in the hood made it out and didn't get caught up and hood shyt. Those were the kids who were always in a book, at work, at sport practice, in the house with their fam, not in the streets and not associating with people who weren't about business. Dad taught us that being poor is not a bad thing as life and poor choices happen however being poor should be temporary and you should always have your own.

You sound like a pretty vicious guy. I mean, you really gotta be a real nikka to call children Weak & Irresponsible...

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Those "weak and irresponsible" children u speak of are no different than the weak and irresponsible children of poverty. They're children, they're Black American. You wanna use semantics when really every single last one of us are in the same boat. Because when one of us makes it then all of us makes it. If one of us is guilty then we're all guilty.



And we're going to start to need pictures of all you folks saying otherwise. Black People don't have rebuttals like these. This isn't a PR run from Ruthless Records execs in the late 80s. Nobody's out here trying to defend the usage of the word. People just say it, big difference
 

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You sound like a pretty vicious guy. I mean, you really gotta be a real nikka to call children Weak & Irresponsible...

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Those "weak and irresponsible" children u speak of are no different than the weak and irresponsible children of poverty. They're children, they're Black American. You wanna use semantics when really every single last one of us are in the same boat. Because when one of us makes it then all of us makes it. If one of us is guilty then we're all guilty.



And we're going to start to need pictures of all you folks saying otherwise. Black People don't have rebuttals like these. This isn't a PR run from Ruthless Records execs in the late 80s. Nobody's out here trying to defend the usage of the word. People just say it, big difference

That is welfare mentality bolded and I don't agree. Collective struggles and sacrifices benefit the group, not one or two people making it and "giving" back. Yes high schoolers, and even children can be weak and irresponsible and if those characteristics and develop into those type of adults if unchecked. Those traits just do not appear at age 18. Sorry I come from 4 generations of a nuclear black American home and one half of my family will disown you if you are out of pocket so my lens will be a bit different from those who don't have that base. And yes those people who want to dwell in poverty are weak and irresponsible as you owe it to your seeds to find a better way. Poverty is a learned behavior and a mindset. Seen too many immigrants come over and bust their asses while people who have been here in the 1700s scuffle as this is all they know (and often only want to know).
 

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That may be your point but your point is wrong :manny:

Banning/Restricting it would neutralize the word. And since Human Beings are so trendy that it would be in no time that people simply would just disappear over time.


I don't know one grown ass person who would say No to an idea like that. Seriously :yeshrug:

How is it wrong?

Banning/Restricting the "n word" wouldn't neutralize it simply because it is a word. As long as people have the ability to speak, they will continue using it. It's a choice. Look at the bans/restrictions on drugs. People know the hazards and still continue using them. Does that neutralize them or does the whole taboo and the fact that they are supposed to be forbidden/harmful add to the appeal?

It's wishful thinking to suggest a word will simply disappear because of a ban or restriction.
 

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How is it wrong?

Banning/Restricting the "n word" wouldn't neutralize it simply because it is a word. As long as people have the ability to speak, they will continue using it. It's a choice. Look at the bans/restrictions on drugs. People know the hazards and still continue using them. Does that neutralize them or does the whole taboo and the fact that they are supposed to be forbidden/harmful add to the appeal?

It's wishful thinking to suggest a word will simply disappear because of a ban or restriction.

This shyt is basic sociolinguistics. If I can vaguely recall what I learned in university, the only way to get rid of a word is to get rid of the situation/environment that creates the word. Essentially, black people as a collective would have to stop being raped by the system: financially, judicially, etc. Which isn't going to happen anytime soon.

There are a number of negative words that have disappeared over the centuries because a) those people don't exist anymore or b) they're not in that downtrodden situation anymore.

I could be wrong. The real people to ask this question are sociolinguists
 

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Somebody send this to JaRule...:aicmon:




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Now lets focus on REAL issues like...

Wealth disparagement, killer cops, prison industrial plantations...aka...The SYSTEM of White Supremacy

Except that shirt is wrong.
 

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That is welfare mentality bolded and I don't agree. Collective struggles and sacrifices benefit the group, not one or two people making it and "giving" back. Yes high schoolers, and even children can be weak and irresponsible and if those characteristics and develop into those type of adults if unchecked. Those traits just do not appear at age 18. Sorry I come from 4 generations of a nuclear black American home and one half of my family will disown you if you are out of pocket so my lens will be a bit different from those who don't have that base. And yes those people who want to dwell in poverty are weak and irresponsible as you owe it to your seeds to find a better way. Poverty is a learned behavior and a mindset. Seen too many immigrants come over and bust their asses while people who have been here in the 1700s scuffle as this is all they know (and often only want to know).

Or maybe we're just all susceptible to Oppression and the fact that the narrative (and sometimes Jealousy) is that if you ain't living in Section 8 then you're White. Anything past Food Stamps and a Cheap Car then all of a sudden "u made it" and now all of a sudden you're soooooooooooo different & don't understand "it" when whole time they're living "it" too but you don't know becuz you not there.



I know how it be and your alleged "disowning nuclear" family is no different than alot of people's family. Even some people's children have disowned them and caused "nuclear" situations. So that's a moot point and typical negro deflection
 

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How is it wrong?

Banning/Restricting the "n word" wouldn't neutralize it simply because it is a word. As long as people have the ability to speak, they will continue using it. It's a choice. Look at the bans/restrictions on drugs. People know the hazards and still continue using them. Does that neutralize them or does the whole taboo and the fact that they are supposed to be forbidden/harmful add to the appeal?

It's wishful thinking to suggest a word will simply disappear because of a ban or restriction.

It's not "wishful thinking". People used to say Grace and eat as a family. Now we just pull up in the drive thru blowin OG textin on the phone Dolo.

People used to say "sweet jesus" after something. Now it's "holy shyt", "what the fukk", "da fukk", "Ey !", etc etc.


Nobody said anything about the word completely disappearing from earth. But yes, it's possible to get people to stop using it so much. You lettin your oppression get the best of you and you giving white folks too much credit.


I don't know nikkaz like that
 

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From what i've experienced most black people don't seem to care and it's seen as a term of endearment :manny:

Though also most black,actually just about every black person who is not a c00n,has standards on who can say it. Obviously some redneck with a Trump shirt on isn't gonna be able to say 'nikka' to too many people without getting fukked with :ufdup:
 
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This shyt is basic sociolinguistics. If I can vaguely recall what I learned in university, the only way to get rid of a word is to get rid of the situation/environment that creates the word. Essentially, black people as a collective would have to stop being raped by the system: financially, judicially, etc. Which isn't going to happen anytime soon.

There are a number of negative words that have disappeared over the centuries because a) those people don't exist anymore or b) they're not in that downtrodden situation anymore.

I could be wrong. The real people to ask this question are sociolinguists

Why are you over complicatin shyt like it's really that hard.



But if we were to use that definition of it then all we would have to do is put a censorship on the Internet. Monitor sites like Here, DatPiff, livemixtapes, torrent shyt, gangstaraptalk, etc and pursue cases like that until people get it.

After all, most people who would wanna use it "for show" are Black, most of them Black Males. They'll be easy to prosecute
 

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From what i've experienced most black people don't seem to care and it's seen as a term of endearment :manny:

Though also most black,actually just about every black person who is not a c00n,has standards who who can say it. Obviously some redneck with a Trump shirt on isn't gonna be able to say 'nikka' to too many people without getting fukked with :ufdup:

Exactly. Which is why we either adapt the Name or Apply Punishments & Fines that go to some sort of Education Fund or somethin like that.


It's really not as big of a deal as it's made out to be. Even though really, our adaptation of the word really has put the joke on us
 

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Every Black person here would feel mad uncomfortable if somebody who wasn't Black came up to them or were in their presence using it so I don't know why y'all wanna downplay that aspect but bigg up the other

I don't even know nikkaz like that
 
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