Ja Rule Says 50 Cent Is ''Nothing'' Without Eminem

[bigbadbossup2012]

Horrible response. Doesn't NEGATE ANYTHING I said. Ja Said 50 was NOTHING without Em. When in fact he got more star power assistance than 50,via a feature, complete with video, on a sdtk, to a movie just as big as 8 Mile.
No one's debating if 50 got help, we know he did.
But that nonsense of it being all about em, is cap.
In fact when em was struggling, the mighty unit kept attention over there.
50 is a Don, and the lil nikkas HE put in did alot better than black child, tah murda.

I don't care about Ja Rule or who he put on. I'm saying your claim Ja got a bigger boost from one song with Jay than 50 did from the full Eminem stimulus is laughable. Same with your claim Rush Hour soundtrack (1x platinum) was just as big as 8 Mile (4× platinum).

Make sure you read carefully so you don't try to prove me wrong on things I didn't say. (I never said the sdtk's were equal in sales) I said the movies were on the same level.

A full Eminem stimulus would be them two both on a single together.
There's others whom were signed to shady, also on 8 mile sdtk, actually on singles with Em and were nowhere near 50.
50 didn't require that same level of assistance.
Ja was also on the 5x's plat Vol 2 Hard Knock life album.
Ja got more help.

 

[BK The Great]

Make sure you read carefully so you don't try to prove me wrong on things I didn't say. (I never said the sdtk's were equal in sales) I said the movies were on the same level.

A full Eminem stimulus would be them two both on a single together.
There's others whom were signed to shady, also on 8 mile sdtk, actually on singles with Em and were nowhere near 50.
50 didn't require that same level of assistance.
Ja was also on the 5x's plat Vol 2 Hard Knock life album.
Ja got more help.

Eminem was one of the highest selling artists right along with Dr. Dre at that time. Saying Ja had more help is hilarious. This is just more proof how delusional Shady/Aftermath fans are.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

no he wouldn't have.

he got hot off tapes and mad labels wanted to sign him (he says this himself in his book).

Now would he be as big as he got w/o the cosign...we'll never know...but he was hot before signing to Em.

I thought after ghetto Quran, how to rob, and getting shot, his original debut was shelved and no label wanted to sign him. And I thought that was the whole reason he blew off mixtapes, because he had no other choice.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Eminem was one of the highest selling artists right along with Dr. Dre at that time. Saying Ja had more help is hilarious. This is just more proof how delusional Shady/Aftermath fans are.

Of course he was and if he did a single/video with 50,i wouldn't be taking this stance.

But he didn't. 50's first hit record was all his own. Ja's first hit was on the biggest hip hop album of 1998,hard knock life, also on a sdtk to a classic movie, Rush Hour. Ja was walked into stardom. 50 grasped the world and owned it for a while

 

[Deltron]

I thought after ghetto Quran, how to rob, and getting shot, his original debut was shelved and no label wanted to sign him. And I thought that was the whole reason he blew off mixtapes, because he had no other choice.

yeah, and? That doesn't contradict what I said.

He got hot off tapes and mad labels wanted to sign him at that point. Em wasn't his only choice. He tells this in his book. Could he be lying? Maybe, maybe not. But it's a fact he got hot enough for one of the biggest rappers in the world to take notice.

 

[Mike Wins]

Make sure you read carefully so you don't try to prove me wrong on things I didn't say. (I never said the sdtk's were equal in sales) I said the movies were on the same level.

A full Eminem stimulus would be them two both on a single together.
There's others whom were signed to shady, also on 8 mile sdtk, actually on singles with Em and were nowhere near 50.
50 didn't require that same level of assistance.
Ja was also on the 5x's plat Vol 2 Hard Knock life album.
Ja got more help.

Who cares about level of the movie? This is a about how many people heard the soundtrack. Eminem stans heard this album with 50 all over it and he reached an audience he normally wouldn't. And he was positioned on it and marketed at that time as though he was to Em what Em was to Dre.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Who cares about level of the movie? This is a about how many people heard the soundtrack. Eminem stans heard this album with 50 all over it and he reached an audience he normally wouldn't. And he was positioned on it and marketed at that time as though he was to Em what Em was to Dre.

And Ja was on a million selling sdtk AND a 5x's platinum Jay-Z album.
Not only that, the song was an actual single with him & Jay.

The fans had to actually like 50's solo records for him to take off. Amazing how he did it.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

So what happened to Curtis when Dre,em and Jimmy ivine stop messing with him

fukk you mean what happened? He diversified his bonds nikka… right into film

 

[Rice N Beans]

50 went at Jimmy iovine , he was trying to compete with beats and they stopped all his promo. You could tell he regretted that when he was giving his speech at the Hollywood star. That's the only time I've ever seen him emotional.

I don't think Jimmy cared that much about the headphones. Beats was by and large THE brand. Nothing came close. Just my thoughts though I never read he cared and 50s brand power for audio is not seeing Dr. Dre. I'm probably wrong, but nobody seriously entertained SMS... right?

I do think he was bothered by the "fukk Jimmy Iovine" line and behavior. Jimmy had a big hand in helping out 50 and directly shytting on one of the hands that feed. That was pretty out of line. I expected no less from 50's character, though.

Also, if I can be truthful here 50 just made underwhelming music since the debut. I'll take he had some good mixtapes. But kept trying to recapture old commercial success by driving crossover songs - things people didn't exactly enjoy about 50's music. I think underwhelming is the perfect word.

I don’t think that matters considering his value has gone up with his TV shows. If Ja and Irv could work out some hits..they probably could’ve done it by now. Maybe they will after the Verzus, but both Ja and Irv are consumed with their beef for 50.

Yes, he has found success elsewhere and it is commendable to diversify the income. No doubt about that. I still think not being able to tap into music again with success really bothers him to a large degree, though. Then his unsuccessful campaign against Rick Ross.

Ja folded up quick, but I think even he understood the sands of time was flowing fast against him, at doublespeed with the Eminem Machine in full gear.

I wonder why they haven't tried making more music, though. Outside of the random 2011 album, the previous was 2004's R.U.L.E.

 

[BK The Great]

Of course he was and if he did a single/video with 50,i wouldn't be taking this stance.

But he didn't. 50's first hit record was all his own. Ja's first hit was on the biggest hip hop album of 1998,hard knock life, also on a sdtk to a classic movie, Rush Hour. Ja was walked into stardom. 50 grasped the world and owned it for a while

Ja came around the same time Pac passed away, so him along with DMX were filling the void of the same music he was making. Whether it would’ve stuck around or not that’s a question we don’t know. 50’s edge won of course but he made a soft music afterwards.

 

[General Mills]

I’m a fan of his but I do give constructive criticism. But Dre doesn’t get enough credit. He’s birthed everyone’s career from NWA to Snoop, Em, 50, The Game, Kendrick and others. Even gave life to other artists producing their albums like Busta. Dre just plays the back field and doesn’t care cause he’s filthy rich.

this it true

 

[BK The Great]

this it true

People give Em credit more than they do Dre. I’m glad someone else sees this. He’s The Godfather of the Gangsta G-Funk hip hop.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

But he was blackballed. If it wasnt for dre and em, he would have been shut out of the industry.

Nah

He was hot BEFORE the Shady deal signing, and madd labels wanted to sign him because he was hot in the streets

He settled on Shady/Aftermath because of the prospect of Dre doing his album AND a co-sign from who was likely the hottest non-Black music artist in the country at the time

He would have been big anyways but the Em and Dre association brought him into the MP3 players of kids across the country as opposed to the Tri-State Area

 

[Deltron]

People give Em credit more than they do Dre. I’m glad someone else sees this. He’s The Godfather of the Gangsta G-Funk hip hop.

ain't no one denying Dre's status in the game.
you're hung up on some imaginary shyt...


why does it bother you em, who signed him, gets credit (or mentioned more than dre)?

If Em was the only one getting credit, you'd have a point. But Dre gets his props from 50, Em, etc.

 

[Sir Brehsington]

The way he tells it, he instantly signed to Stretch LOL. Which means his career was DOA. He spit that ish for Stretch, Stretch told him to come back, he played Life on Line beat and told PU to go over that beat with the same ish, for the now famous freestyle...and signed with him. It took off. But through his relationship with Whoo Kid & 50, he kept gettin placements, but couldn't get out the streets. Shootouts, homi cases and jail. He's out in LA now, and released some new songs like 7-8 years ago.

Good looks on the update breh. Yea he was always featured on them old Stretch and Whoo Kid collab tapes. He was legit.