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Lol they are the same in effect. Similar completion percentage, similar tds and ints, similar w and losses.

Chiefs didn't win super bowl in a stop they won it on mahomes leading them down the field and scoring. That isn't to say the defense didn't elevate to great from sybpar before when they were more offense focused but the reality is Mahomes elevated the plays of the subpar WRs they had to win titles after tyrek left. He got scantling paid somewhere else and produced on the field

Same for Lamar and the others I have posted. Lawrence isn't in that group. You compare CJ Shroud to Lawrence and you can see the difference in a excellent QB that can elevate and one that is just another guy. Same with Jayden Daniels

No cam did not always have a pro bowl wr. You are lying now. Cam got to the super bowl with a cast of leftovers and Olsen. A tight end isn't a wr.

Lamar has done more with less. Why cry about him when if Lawrence was what you say he is he would be having the same success as Lamar with his lack of tools. Your crying about Lamar is literally an indictment on what Lawrence isn't, which is a generational excellent talent.

Lawrence has 4 years in the NFL. We know what he is nothing is changing now. He is what he is and that is a mediocre NFL QB

They showed Lawrence stats next to i believe it's Mahomes this year...nearly identical if not better. I have to look again.

The Chiefs defense kept the game close on a team that could put up points and blow the Chiefs out. Enabling Mahomes to make that throw to a garbage WR who had to body catch that shyt he was so scared.

Lamar is proving to be elite this year, with his arm. He could always run, which is a cheat code in the NFL because defenses just weren't prepared for that. Though it's let him down in the playoffs thus far.

CJ Stroud has a machine around him. He has who I think is the best WR in the game (Nico) and when Nico was out the offense looked like trash. He has a defense that can rush the passer and he has Mixon in the backfield.

I'm pretty sure all those years Cam was the shyt, he had either Steve Smith and/or that Muhammed guy, plus Olsen, plus Williams and Stewart as RBs, plus a good defense! And when he lost all that good stuff he started looking mid.

All these points leading too: that generational QB and elevating the players around him stuff is garbo. You're not elevating shyt...unless you have some DAWGS running with you. I'm ready to call Lawrence trash too, but if I'm being honest he hasnt had anything around him.

He got a big contract and his head coach told him "ok you're paid...but you're the QB and he's the OC (Taylor). You WILL run the plays he calls and stop checking out."

Most people don't know there's conflict between Lawrence and Pederson and Press Taylor. Ever since his QB coach left (after the the playoff year) Trevor been bumping heads with the coach and OC. I dont know any qb that will do well when they don't get along with the HC or OC.

 

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They showed Lawrence stats next to i believe it's Mahomes this year...nearly identical if not better. I have to look again.

The Chiefs defense kept the game close on a team that could put up points and blow the Chiefs out. Enabling Mahomes to make that throw to a garbage WR who had to body catch that shyt he was so scared.

Lamar is proving to be elite this year, with his arm. He could always run, which is a cheat code in the NFL because defenses just weren't prepared for that. Though it's let him down in the playoffs thus far.

CJ Stroud has a machine around him. He has who I think is the best WR in the game (Nico) and when Nico was out the offense looked like trash. He has a defense that can rush the passer and he has Mixon in the backfield.

I'm pretty sure all those years Cam was the shyt, he had either Steve Smith and/or that Muhammed guy, plus Olsen, plus Williams and Stewart as RBs, plus a good defense! And when he lost all that good stuff he started looking mid.

All these points leading too: that generational QB and elevating the players around him stuff is garbo. You're not elevating shyt...unless you have some DAWGS running with you. I'm ready to call Lawrence trash too, but if I'm being honest he hasnt had anything around him.

He got a big contract and his head coach told him "ok you're paid...but you're the QB and he's the OC (Taylor). You WILL run the plays he calls and stop checking out."

Most people don't know there's conflict between Lawrence and Pederson and Press Taylor. Ever since his QB coach left (after the the playoff year) Trevor been bumping heads with the coach and OC. I dont know any qb that will do well when they don't get along with the HC or OC.

Trevor Lawrence 2024 vs Mahomes 2024 isn't comparable.
Mahomes has damn near 8% higher completion percentage, damn near double the passing yards, over double the passing TDs, 3xs the rushing yards. The only stat Lawrence has over Pat is 3 rush TDs to Pats 2.

They aren't comparable at all. His numbers are comparable to Gardner minshew and Aidan I connel.

Cam had Steve smith for 3 years he wasn't there in the super bowl run , mishin Muhammad never played with Cam. The only consistent offensive talent the Panthers gave cam was Olsen.

CJ has Nico , Nico was in Houston 2 years before ch got there he didn't become a 1k receiver until CJ. CJ elevated him and they helped each other.

Who has Trevor Lawrence elevated and WON with? What has he done besides state pad

Reality and history shows me generational talent elevates mediocre talent to the point people think that medicare talent is elite. That ain't Lawrence he is mediocre at best