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None of what you said is true

Breh, Lamar was winning MVPs but all the talk was how he couldn't win the big game and folded in the postseason. They lamented that he's a good but not great QB and you can't win a SB with him when a team actually prepares for a running QB.

Josh Allen was referred to as a running back. His accuracy was trash and he couldn't win the big game. Until I believe, last year the game plan for josh and lamar was to keep them in the pocket and they couldn't beat you. The Chiefs did that to Lamar in the Chip and he looked like hot garbito.

What generational QB can't wun from the pocket? Lamar and Jish turned the corner this year...so far.
 

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@Dzali OG what do you mean that Allen was just about out of there? He definitely wasn't. And you're acting like Stefon Diggs not wanting to play with someone/somewhere means something.

Breh they were calling Josh a RB who could throw the ball far (not accurate tho). The fans and media (who i meant) were just about done with him after his second year.
 

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Breh, Lamar was winning MVPs but all the talk was how he couldn't win the big game and folded in the postseason. They lamented that he's a good but not great QB and you can't win a SB with him when a team actually prepares for a running QB.

Josh Allen was referred to as a running back. His accuracy was trash and he couldn't win the big game. Until I believe, last year the game plan for josh and lamar was to keep them in the pocket and they couldn't beat you. The Chiefs did that to Lamar in the Chip and he looked like hot garbito.

What generational QB can't wun from the pocket? Lamar and Jish turned the corner this year...so far.

Diggs started getting mad at Josh during the 2022'23 playoffs against Cincy

At that point, he had gone to the AFCCG and also lost that 13 seconds game in back to back years. No one was calling him an RB.

I'm confused by what you're saying.
 

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Breh they were calling Josh a RB who could throw the ball far (not accurate tho). The fans and media (who i meant) were just about done with him after his second year.

But after his second year, Diggs wasn't saying he didn't want to play with Josh. Diggs ARRIVED in Buffalo after Josh's second year . Your timeline isn't making sense.
 

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Peyton Manning , Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, DeShaun (houston era), Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, pat mahomes, and etc.
Great QBs can cover a great deal of shyt

Every last one of them had a GM who actively surrounded them with HOF/ perennial Pro Bowl talent....or they were the missing piece to the puzzle.

What exactly has Baalke given Lawrence to win games? They haven't had a Pro Bowl OL in 25 years, and 1 non special teams Pro Bowler (Evan Engram) since they drafted Lawrence #1 overall.
 

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Every last one of them had a GM who actively surrounded them with HOF/ perennial Pro Bowl talent....or they were the missing piece to the puzzle.

What exactly has Baalke given Lawrence to win games? They haven't had a Pro Bowl OL in 25 years, and 1 non special teams Pro Bowler (Evan Engram) since they drafted Lawrence #1 overall.
Joe Burrow hasn't had a line since he has been with the Benglas, defense is average at best, hasnt he led the league in sacks taken since he arrived?
Cam's best season of offensive weapons was his rookie year, then they got rid of every weapon he had that was elite outside of Olsen. He still took them to the super bowl right?
Andrew Luck had a shyt GM that caused him to retire early, he still put the franchise back into the playoff race.

I could go on, but an elite QB elevates and hides the flaws of poor management and personnel.

Lawrence was sold as being able to do that as he was elite and generational, that is a lie. He is Gardner Minshew
 

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Joe Burrow hasn't had a line since he has been with the Benglas, defense is average at best, hasnt he led the league in sacks taken since he arrived?
Cam's best season of offensive weapons was his rookie year, then they got rid of every weapon he had that was elite outside of Olsen. He still took them to the super bowl right?
Andrew Luck had a shyt GM that caused him to retire early, he still put the franchise back into the playoff race.

I could go on, but an elite QB elevates and hides the flaws of poor management and personnel.

Lawrence was sold as being able to do that as he was elite and generational, that is a lie. He is Gardner Minshew
Yeah the Commanders would be fukking 6-11 without Jaden Daniels.
 

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Joe Burrow hasn't had a line since he has been with the Benglas, defense is average at best, hasnt he led the league in sacks taken since he arrived?
Cam's best season of offensive weapons was his rookie year, then they got rid of every weapon he had that was elite outside of Olsen. He still took them to the super bowl right?
Andrew Luck had a shyt GM that caused him to retire early, he still put the franchise back into the playoff race.

I could go on, but an elite QB elevates and hides the flaws of poor management and personnel.

Lawrence was sold as being able to do that as he was elite and generational, that is a lie. He is Gardner Minshew

Breh, Burrow currently has Jamar Chase,Tee Higgins, Their GM went and got Orlando Brown at LT....drafted Mims this year..they're actively acquiring talent/ attempting to fix deficiencies...he also had Joe Mixon

Cam had Steve Smith,DJ Moore, CMC,Olsen and multiple Pro Bowl OL

Andrew Luck had a pro bowl WR, 2 Pro Bowl OL's

You're proving my point that Baalke has done nearly nothing to bring in pieces to help Lawrence
 

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Breh, Burrow currently has Jamar Chase,Tee Higgins, Their GM went and got Orlando Brown at LT....drafted Mims this year..they're actively acquiring talent/ attempting to fix deficiencies...he also had Joe Mixon

Cam had Steve Smith,DJ Moore, CMC,Olsen and multiple Pro Bowl OL

Andrew Luck had a pro bowl WR, 2 Pro Bowl OL's


You're proving my point that Baalke has done nearly nothing to bring in pieces to help Lawrence
LOL, Burrow hasn't had an OL ever since he joined the league.
He hasn't had a defense to go along with what he has brought on offense.
They have been trying to fix his OL since his rookie year and havent done it. Yet he over performs

Cam had Steve smith for one year. Shokey for one year. DJ Moore is not a superstar. He did not get McCaffery until his last year post shoulder injury in Carolina. You literally are making shyt up about his offensive weapons he actually had to try to make a point to save Lawrence and it comes off ignorant and pathetic.

Luck had the same team that was bad enough to earn them the 1 pick. Stop it.

Lawrence could do what Luck or Cam did when drafted 1, because he isn't a transformational talent, period.
 

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Breh, Burrow currently has Jamar Chase,Tee Higgins, Their GM went and got Orlando Brown at LT....drafted Mims this year..they're actively acquiring talent/ attempting to fix deficiencies...he also had Joe Mixon

Cam had Steve Smith,DJ Moore, CMC,Olsen and multiple Pro Bowl OL

Andrew Luck had a pro bowl WR, 2 Pro Bowl OL's


You're proving my point that Baalke has done nearly nothing to bring in pieces to help Lawrence
Cam had DJ Moore? :jbhmm:
 
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