Jalen Hurts is finally silencing the critics and showing the world he’s elite “ The official Jalen Hurts MVP tracker thread”

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They just need to run an offense that actually fits their players. Nonstop shotgun, next to no real motion, very predictable run plays...this is not a 2025 NFL offense. Hurts deserves some blame but overall this is the product of a bad OC. A frankly we gotta talk about Sirianni, who has now hired two god awful OCs in a row. I'm not counting Kellen Moore because it was clear the owner and GM got all in his ass and hired babysitters for him last season. I don't think it's crazy to suggest the Eagles move on from him in a year or two.

this, but even still, hurts was showing major improvement the first few weeks with the predictable ass offense. i don't see sirianni going anywhere soon and he shouldn't, but the go to model for success for us has always been to get a PROVEN OC in the building while sirianni plays the ceo coach lane. patullo doesn't deserve all the blame either just like hurts, but it's damning when every single week, a different offensive player (hurts, aj, mailata, lane) is calling out our offensive game plan and play calling.
 

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this, but even still, hurts was showing major improvement the first few weeks with the predictable ass offense. i don't see sirianni going anywhere soon and he shouldn't, but the go to model for success for us has always been to get a PROVEN OC in the building while sirianni plays the ceo coach lane. patullo doesn't deserve all the blame either just like hurts, but it's damning when every single week, a different offensive player (hurts, aj, mailata, lane) is calling out our offensive game plan and play calling.
They fired Doug Pederson not long after winning a Super Bowl.
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Saw this posted on another site, thought I'd post it here.
:picard: This from a hardcore eagles fan btw

Hurts:

  • I'll sound like a broken record, but I am sick and tired of the coddling of Hurts when he consistently makes the same mistakes or refuses to pass to guys who are NFL open but aren't WIDE OPEN. He missed D. Smith for a TD. He missed AJ for a TD on the terrible late throw he threw to Dotson that turned into a pick. And why did he throw that anyway? 'Cause that's his game. Go balls, sideline curls, out, etc, because he's not comfortable throwing to the middle. AJ was wide open running a post route to the middle of the field on the play he threw a pick. It would have been a TD. But nope, Hurts has to throw to WR3, who gets zero separation on a short out that he throws late to make matters worse.
  • Want to know why AJ and Smith get upset? It's because of this. And it's because even when they won their first four games, it was mainly due to miracle plays by STs or the defense turning the ball over, and similar plays. They are paying top QB money to throw to (2!) top WRs who they are also paying top 5 money to, and they can't complete simple passes to them.
  • Most fans will call for the OC and HC to be fired, but these are the same issues, particularly with the pass game, that Hurts has faced since college: with Doug P, with Nick calling plays, with Shane calling plays, with Brian Johnson, with Kellen Moore, and now with Kevin Patullo. Are we to believe all these coaches, some from very different backgrounds and styles, don't know how to design or call plays? That they can't scheme guys open? I'll point out how bad Shane's offense looked in Indy with Richardson, and now it looks more like his 2022 Philly offense, since he now has a QB who can make his offense work. So did Shane forget how to coach the last 2 seasons?
  • Or is it far more likely that the Eagles run the offense that works best with, or for, Hurts? Hurts has come out and said, "It's going to look like how I want it to look". He has said he doesn't like a lot of pre-snap motion. He doesn't like under-center play action. He doesn't like to throw to the middle. Ok, cool then, good luck coming up with a decent passing attack when you have to remove all those elements from the offense.
 

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They fired Doug Pederson not long after winning a Super Bowl.
:francis:

funny enough, the reason doug got fired is because lurie tried to force him to get a proven outside voice for OC while doug wanted to keep bum ass in house press taylor as OC. if sirianni gets to the point where he becomes that stubborn too, then yeah hes getting packed up. sirianni has never struck me as the type to die on that hill though.
 

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Never seen a QB win a superbowl the year before and his PR get worse not even half way through the following season.

I don't even know what Hurts has done to get people to dislike him so much.

This is disingenuous and almost moving the goalposts from what is being discussed. I have not seen one person that dislikes Hurts. He came into the league with people questioning him, improved as a QB, and was able to help the Eagles win a Super Bowl and reach another one a few years before.

People are discussing him as a QB and his play. People that dared say there were other QB's that would vastly improve the Eagles offense were labeled as "haters" and the responses were always "He won a Super Bowl!". He's not the worst QB in the NFL, but when a team has that talent that they have on offense and look like they have, there are valid discussiobs to be had.
 

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Saw this posted on another site, thought I'd post it here.
:picard: This from a hardcore eagles fan btw

Hurts:

  • I'll sound like a broken record, but I am sick and tired of the coddling of Hurts when he consistently makes the same mistakes or refuses to pass to guys who are NFL open but aren't WIDE OPEN. He missed D. Smith for a TD. He missed AJ for a TD on the terrible late throw he threw to Dotson that turned into a pick. And why did he throw that anyway? 'Cause that's his game. Go balls, sideline curls, out, etc, because he's not comfortable throwing to the middle. AJ was wide open running a post route to the middle of the field on the play he threw a pick. It would have been a TD. But nope, Hurts has to throw to WR3, who gets zero separation on a short out that he throws late to make matters worse.
  • Want to know why AJ and Smith get upset? It's because of this. And it's because even when they won their first four games, it was mainly due to miracle plays by STs or the defense turning the ball over, and similar plays. They are paying top QB money to throw to (2!) top WRs who they are also paying top 5 money to, and they can't complete simple passes to them.
  • Most fans will call for the OC and HC to be fired, but these are the same issues, particularly with the pass game, that Hurts has faced since college: with Doug P, with Nick calling plays, with Shane calling plays, with Brian Johnson, with Kellen Moore, and now with Kevin Patullo. Are we to believe all these coaches, some from very different backgrounds and styles, don't know how to design or call plays? That they can't scheme guys open? I'll point out how bad Shane's offense looked in Indy with Richardson, and now it looks more like his 2022 Philly offense, since he now has a QB who can make his offense work. So did Shane forget how to coach the last 2 seasons?
  • Or is it far more likely that the Eagles run the offense that works best with, or for, Hurts? Hurts has come out and said, "It's going to look like how I want it to look". He has said he doesn't like a lot of pre-snap motion. He doesn't like under-center play action. He doesn't like to throw to the middle. Ok, cool then, good luck coming up with a decent passing attack when you have to remove all those elements from the offense.


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Nobody dislikes Hurts. People started trying to crown him after the Super Bowl and started calling him "elite" so now he's being held to a higher standard. He's not being compared to midlevel QBs anymore, he's being compared to the guys who've been around and won awards and made multiple Pro Bowls etc. etc..
 

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Nobody dislikes Hurts. People started trying to crown him after the Super Bowl and started calling him "elite" so now he's being held to a higher standard. He's not being compared to midlevel QBs anymore, he's being compared to the guys who've been around and won awards and made multiple Pro Bowls etc. etc..


Jalen Hurts has been to pro-bowls, won a Super Bowl MVP and was an injury from winning regular season MVP :dead: “Guys who’ve been around”

Dak Prescott? :laff:
 

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Saw this posted on another site, thought I'd post it here.
:picard: This from a hardcore eagles fan btw

Hurts:

  • I'll sound like a broken record, but I am sick and tired of the coddling of Hurts when he consistently makes the same mistakes or refuses to pass to guys who are NFL open but aren't WIDE OPEN. He missed D. Smith for a TD. He missed AJ for a TD on the terrible late throw he threw to Dotson that turned into a pick. And why did he throw that anyway? 'Cause that's his game. Go balls, sideline curls, out, etc, because he's not comfortable throwing to the middle. AJ was wide open running a post route to the middle of the field on the play he threw a pick. It would have been a TD. But nope, Hurts has to throw to WR3, who gets zero separation on a short out that he throws late to make matters worse.
  • Want to know why AJ and Smith get upset? It's because of this. And it's because even when they won their first four games, it was mainly due to miracle plays by STs or the defense turning the ball over, and similar plays. They are paying top QB money to throw to (2!) top WRs who they are also paying top 5 money to, and they can't complete simple passes to them.
  • Most fans will call for the OC and HC to be fired, but these are the same issues, particularly with the pass game, that Hurts has faced since college: with Doug P, with Nick calling plays, with Shane calling plays, with Brian Johnson, with Kellen Moore, and now with Kevin Patullo. Are we to believe all these coaches, some from very different backgrounds and styles, don't know how to design or call plays? That they can't scheme guys open? I'll point out how bad Shane's offense looked in Indy with Richardson, and now it looks more like his 2022 Philly offense, since he now has a QB who can make his offense work. So did Shane forget how to coach the last 2 seasons?
  • Or is it far more likely that the Eagles run the offense that works best with, or for, Hurts? Hurts has come out and said, "It's going to look like how I want it to look". He has said he doesn't like a lot of pre-snap motion. He doesn't like under-center play action. He doesn't like to throw to the middle. Ok, cool then, good luck coming up with a decent passing attack when you have to remove all those elements from the offense.
My grandma posted this, she’s a hardcore Eagles fan

 
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