Jalen Hurts is finally silencing the critics and showing the world he’s elite “ The official Jalen Hurts MVP tracker thread”

[Shadow King]

So you set up a strawman


Your original question was set up on a false premise. The Eagles are anything but well constructed this year.

Who’s your team?

Recognizing a narrative being present for 3+ seasons isn't a strawman. Pretending y'all haven't been giving Hurts the elite label since 2022 is the strawman. I refuse to let you get away with limiting the discussion to an 8 week stretch when y'all have called this man elite for going on 4 years.

My original question was not set on a false pretense, @Ohene specifically named a QB with similar stats implying the other QBs elite status should be equally questioned with a thread of his own.

Hint: You ain't catching my team in rings before you die.

This is my last original response to you until you acknowledge the Elite label and ensuing debate around it didn't start this season or even 2024, you answer my original question, or both.

What happens to Buffalo and Philly if you remove Allen and Hurts from these respective teams?

I'll wait to copy and paste because I know you'll continue dancing around the history established by y'all and shaking your pom poms instead of answering a simple question.

 

[Mister Terrific]

Recognizing a narrative being present for 3+ seasons isn't a strawman. Pretending y'all having been giving Hurts the elite label since 2022 is disingenuous.

My original question was not set on a false pretense, @Ohene specifically named a QB with similar stats implying the other QBs elite status should be equally questioned with a thread of his own.

Hint: You ain't catching my team in rings before you die.

This is my last original response to you until you acknowledge the Elite label and ensuing debate around it didn't start this season or even 2024, you answer my original question, or both.

What happens to Buffalo and Philly if you remove Allen and Hurts from these respective teams?

I'll wait to copy and paste because I know you'll continue dancing around the history established by y'all and shaking your pom poms instead of answering a simple question.

Nah it’s a strawman because Philly fans weren’t completely sold on Hurts until last year. Hell you can check the Philly thread as he got plenty of criticism. I myself said I needed to see more from him and after the Super Bowl there should be no mistake he is Elite. He has elite numbers, especially efficiencies and has done it across multiple coaching changes.

Also I don’t care about VCR rings and yeah we probably will catch you with Lurie


Let’s put Hurts on that Buffalo team in the 4th quarter against the Chiefs in the playoffs last year. They winning the chiefs are food to Hurts. Mahomes strikes the fear of God in AFC QB’s. Hurts dgaf.


You crying about how or what Josh Allen doesn’t have when the Chiefs scored all of 13 points in the 1st half of that game. Must do better

 

[Shadow King]

Nah it’s a strawman because Philly fans weren’t completely sold on Hurts until last year. Hell you can check the Philly thread as he got plenty of criticism. I myself said I needed to see more from him and after the Super Bowl there should be no mistake he is Elite. He has elite numbers, especially efficiencies and has done it across multiple coaching changes.

Also I don’t care about VCR rings and yeah we probably will catch you with Lurie


Let’s put Hurts on that Buffalo team in the 4th quarter against the Chiefs in the playoffs last year. They winning the chiefs are food to Hurts. Mahomes strikes the fear of God in AFC QB’s

Hurts has yet to have a season of 25 passing TDs. Y'all are not calling any other QB elite with this trend. Handpicking super situational stats can make anyone elite.

I don't have VCR rings. You're not catching me before you die.

Hurts on Buffalo not being KC with McDermott at the helm and the defense folding every January.

And that STILL doesn't answer my question when I didn't ask for them to switch teams. I asked about if they're each removed. Learn to read

 

[Mister Terrific]

Hurts has yet to have a season of 25 passing TDs.

What’s that matter when he isn’t throwing interceptions and is getting 15 rushing tds? Is there supposed to be a specific way you get in the end zone?

That’s your problem, you don’t understand efficient winning football. You probably thkkk Dak Prescott is a good QB because he gets cotton candy yards and loses 8 games a year.

Y'all are not calling any other QB elite with this trend.

Hurts leads the league in touchdowns for QB. Yes I would

Handpicking super situational stats can make anyone elite.

I don't have VCR rings. You're not catching me before you die.

Who’s your team then? I guarantee they food for my Birds.

Hurts on Buffalo not being KC with McDermott at the helm and the defense folding every January.

Hurts has beat the Chiefs with multiple different coordinators. Dgaf who is calling the plays. Defense didn’t fold against the Chiefs. Held them to 13 points in a half and Josh Allen scored 16 and then proceeded to score 7 in the next two quarters.

 

[Shadow King]

What’s that matter when he isn’t throwing interceptions and is getting 15 rushing tds? Is there supposed to be a specific way you get in the end zone?

That’s your problem, you don’t understand efficient winning football. You probably thkkk Dak Prescott is a good QB because he gets cotton candy yards and loses 8 games a year.




Hurts leads the league in touchdowns for QB. Yes I would




Who’s your team then? I guarantee they food for my Birds.


Hurts has beat the Chiefs with multiple different coordinators. Dgaf who is calling the plays. Defense didn’t fold against the Chiefs. Held them to 13 points in a half and Josh Allen scored 16 and then proceeded to score 7 in the next two quarters.

What's the matter is you wouldn't do this for any other QB. The QBs #1 job is throwing the football. 15 rushing touchdowns and 90% of them are based on a controversial/dangerous play stemming from having the biggest line in the league. Again, product of his team. Since you feel this way, let Saquon split drop backs with your mans then if it doesn't matter who or how you get in the end zone.

Just like I told @BucciMane, a person unable to see the different variations of "good". It's elite or trash.

Demanding to know my team is irrelevant and changes nothing about the discussion. You ain't catching them before you die.

And I don't give a fukk how many coordinators Hurts has when he can lay on top of his lineman for first downs and TDs but the refs can't call a proper strip of the ball i.e. this past Sunday.

What game are you talking about? Even though it's irrelevant because I specifically said that team folds ever January, Kansas City scored

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Against Buffalo in the Mahomes-Allen rivalry. You so worried about strawmans when that's all you spit out. Nobody's talking about October and November games.

 

[Mister Terrific]

What's the matter is you wouldn't do this for any other QB. The QBs #1 job is throwing the football.

Uhh yes I would. And a QB’s number 1 job is winning football games. Whether Hurts wins football games with his legs or arm is immaterial to me.

Furthermore Hurts does throw the football, efficiently I might add.

15 rushing touchdowns and 90% of them are based on a controversial/dangerous play stemming from having the biggest line in the league

Only 3 of Hurts tds this year are from the tush push.

Furthermore if every team could do it they would do it. Had nothing to do with you having “the biggest oline” but having a QB that squats a truck.

Also because Hurts is automatic at the goal line that takes away from his td pass touchdowns because why would you throw when you have an automatic 7.


You really are destroying your own argument. “HURTS DOESNT SCORE TOUCHDOWNS THE WAY I WAKT UIM TO”


The NFL is a copy league and if something works it gets copies. No team can copy the rush push because Hurts has physical attributes that makes it impossible.

. Again, product of his team. Since you feel this way, let Saquon split drop backs with your mans then if it doesn't matter who or how you get in the end zone.

What

Just like I told @BucciMane, a person unable to see the different variations of "good". It's elite or trash.

The fact you even listen to that MAGAT cac about anything is your first mistake

Demanding to know my team is irrelevant and changes nothing about the discussion. You ain't catching them before you die.

Food huh

And I don't give a fukk how many coordinators Hurts has when he can lay on top of his lineman for first downs and TDs but the refs can't call a proper strip of the ball i.e. this past Sunday.

Oh now it’s a conspiracy.

What game are you talking about? Even though it's irrelevant because I specifically said that team folds ever January, Kansas City scored

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The 27 point game. Where KC had 13 points at half and Allen had 186 passing yards.

Against Buffalo in the Mahomes-Allen rivalry. You so worried about strawmans when that's all you spit out. Nobody's talking about October and November games.

We talking playoffs buddy

 

[Shadow King]

Uhh yes I would. And a QB’s number 1 job is winning football games. Whether Hurts wins football games with his legs or arm is immaterial to me.

Furthermore Hurts does throw the football, efficiently I might add.



Only 3 of Hurts tds this year are from the tush push.

Furthermore if every team could do it they would do it. Had nothing to do with you having “the biggest oline” but having a QB that squats a truck.

Also because Hurts is automatic at the goal line that takes away from his td pass touchdowns because why would you throw when you have an automatic 7.


You really are destroying your own argument. “HURTS DOESNT SCORE TOUCHDOWNS THE WAY I WAKT UIM TO”


The NFL is a copy league and if something works it gets copies. No team can copy the rush push because Hurts has physical attributes that makes it impossible.





What


The fact you even listen to that MAGAT cac about anything is your first mistake





Food huh


Oh now it’s a conspiracy.



The 27 point game. Where KC had 13 points at half and Allen had 186 passing yards.

We talking playoffs buddy

Winning is a team accomplishment. A QBs #1 job every down is throwing the ball...let Saquon throw 20 times since you feel this way.

Him squatting the equator is immaterial to me.

Catch us before talking. Unlike you I don't let fandom color my view of a sport in its entirety.

13 points at half is irrelevant. They scored 27.

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Funny you wanna talk about this year only for your man but not for someone else.

 

[Mister Terrific]

Winning is a team accomplishment. A QBs #1 job every down is throwing the ball...let Saquon throw 20 times since you feel this way.

The most important position in modern football is the QB. As to why even though Saquon and the defense are having a bad and mid year Hurts play has Philly a top of their division and a couple of missed throws from being undefeated in 22 games.

Saquon couldn’t command an offense like Hurts nor could Saquon run the tush push or extend plays with his legs or have the top QB rating vs the blitz

You don’t understand what matters in football. You think having a bunch of passing yards but turning the ball over is what wins football games. It’s not. It’s scoring points, chewing the clock by limiting possessions and not having turnovers.

Efficiency is the key. Your team would have more than vcr chips if you took that to heart

Him squatting the equator is immaterial to me.

Why it directly ties into his abilities on the field? Should all QB’s be built like Peyton Manning for their accomplishments to matter?

Catch us before talking. Unlike you I don't let fandom color my view of a sport in its entirety.

You won’t even name your team so you must be embarrassed. You’re food

13 points at half is irrelevant. They scored 27.

That’s only 2 touchdowns. You telling me Josh Allen couldn’t muster 11 points?

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Funny you wanna talk about this year only for your man but not for someone else.

I talk about playoffs.

Bills D put him in position to win or tie the game and he folded

 

[RedBull]

 

[Killer Instinct]

Y'all nikkas got me dapping up @Mister Terrific

 

[phillycavsfan]

Hurts has yet to have a season of 25 passing TDs.

Who gives a fractal of a fraction of a fukk? This is a metric that means nothing. Rodgers threw 28 passing TDs last season and no one would say he was good last year.

 

[Shadow King]

You're in here saying a player who's #1 job is to run through players his size or larger can't excute a bunch of silverbacks pushing him 1 yard, continuing to obsess over who my team is when you ain't getting 4 more rings in your lifetime, and showing me a sheet of 10 points in the 4Q talking bout "the defense didn't fold".

Ignore list you go. My team has had the most dominant 20 year period you've seen. Y'all not doing it.

I'm gonna dìck ride other niqqas posts instead of answering the original question @Shadow King asked

Apparently not you, sassafras ass niqqa. Y'all not letting no other QB spend 5 seasons doing that and being called elite.

 

[phillycavsfan]

You're in here saying a player who's #1 job is to run through players his size or larger can't excute a bunch of silverbacks pushing him 1 line, continuing to obsess over who my team is when you ain't getting 4 more rings in your lifetime, and showing me a sheet of 10 points in the 4Q talking bout "the defense didn't fold".

Ignore list you go. My team has had the most dominant 20 year period you've seen. Y'all not doing it.



Apparently not you, sassafras ass niqqa. Y'all not letting no other QB spend 5 seasons doing that and being called elite.

Can't be that good because you won't name them and I have no idea who you're talking about.

And now you're crashing out and editing QTs.

 

[Shadow King]

Can't be that good because you won't name them and I have no idea who you're talking about.

And now you're crashing out and editing QTs.

I'm not answering a question that's irrelevant to discussing Jalen Hurts

Hoes of a feather flock together so join your sister in obsessing over who it is

Like I'ma make that claim for the Jags or some shyt I know this fan base struggles with context but God the fuçk damn

 

[Mister Terrific]

Y'all nikkas got me dapping up @Mister Terrific

I think we agree on most things just not my Kings greatness