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you can't just go by stats

when evaluating QBs you have to look at things like poise, anticipation, pocket presence, throwing platforms, footwork, mechanics, etc...

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I’m not comparing Hurts to Lamar because they’re 2 different kinds of QB’s but what you said is exactly what analysts and scouts were saying about Lamar and look how that played out. Hurts can play, if he doesn’t get drafted to somebody with a shytty coach, he’ll be successful
 

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I hear y'all, I'm just saying I don't see 3-4 rounds of difference in Kyler, Baker and Jalen. :manny:. I'll stand by that and will agree to disagree with you guys. Maybe the truth is all three of them are really 2nd-3rd round QBs and the first too were overrated, but time will tell. But I cant see a scenario where he doesn't belong in the league
 

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I’m not comparing Hurts to Lamar because they’re 2 different kinds of QB’s but what you said is exactly what analysts and scouts were saying about Lamar and look how that played out. Hurts can play, if he doesn’t get drafted to somebody with a shytty coach, he’ll be successful
Eh. The difference is that Lamar did more with much less talent surrounding him. I mean, ffs, the nikka won a heisman at Louisville of all places.

Also, Lamar had poise, anticipation, and pocket presence his Junior year.
 

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I’m not comparing Hurts to Lamar because they’re 2 different kinds of QB’s but what you said is exactly what analysts and scouts were saying about Lamar and look how that played out. Hurts can play, if he doesn’t get drafted to somebody with a shytty coach, he’ll be successful
Just because they said the same about Lamar doesnt mean Hurts is somehow being under valued. Lamar was a first rounder. A team built around him. Jalen may have lost first round status late in the season. Teams rarely build around later picks at qb
 

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Eh. The difference is that Lamar did more with much less talent surrounding him. I mean, ffs, the nikka won a heisman at Louisville of all places.

Also, Lamar had poise, anticipation, and pocket presence his Junior year.
Without looking it up can you name the other starting receivers on OU’s roster other than Lamb?
Just because they said the same about Lamar doesnt mean Hurts is somehow being under valued. Lamar was a first rounder. A team built around him. Jalen may have lost first round status late in the season. Teams rarely build around later picks at qb
The Ravens didn’t really build around Lamar. They just gave him more speed, which is what every QB needs. I just hope a coach doesn’t try to change him into something he’s not. If Dak can do well in the league then Hurts can
 

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I’m not comparing Hurts to Lamar because they’re 2 different kinds of QB’s but what you said is exactly what analysts and scouts were saying about Lamar and look how that played out. Hurts can play, if he doesn’t get drafted to somebody with a shytty coach, he’ll be successful

You absolutely cannot compare Lamar to Jalen because Lamar is better than him at every single aspect of football.

Even "Jalen grown at OU" thing shouldn't be lining up for you when you compare Kyler's production to his. The only statistical advanges he has on Kyler are inflated. 2 point higher pass percentage (Jalen has 70 less attempts and Kyler's percentage was higher until the Bama game), and rushing yards (Jalen has more yards and TD's...but on 80 more attempts, Kyler averaged more per carry).

And those are just numbers. When you watch the games and look at how Kyler was moving through reads and dropping impeccable dimes all over the field whereas Jalen regularly gives up on winnable snaps and leaves the pocket/leaves open receivers there's absolutely 3-4 rounds between them. That's the gap right there between a guy you think is a franchise QB and someone who is a project.

And the "that's what they said about Lamar" shyt...ya'll talking like Lamar was slept on out of the draft. He was a first round pick and the starter before the end of his rookie season with an offense built around him. You're letting the hyperbole conflict with what actually happened.

Without looking it up can you name the other starting receivers on OU’s roster other than Lamb?
Bet we'll know all their names next year when Rattler can move past his first read and get the ball to them :mjgrin: Rambo is legit and should have been a bigger part of their offense this year.
 

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You really shouldn't have brought up his Bama days seeing as he played poorly enough throughout the season to get benched in a championship game of all places.

Like, breh, multiple posters (including myself) who have watched his Bama games have stated how garbage his accuracy was on a consistent basis.

He would underthrow wide-open receivers, which would force them to make Moss-like catches. Essentially, he was a step above Phillip Sims: great, powerful runner with good arm strength and mediocre at best accuracy.

In other words, the nikka was living off of Bama's talent his two years there.
As a Clemson fan, I remember thinking "we need to make him throw it more" That's not a good sign brah.
 

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Without looking it up can you name the other starting receivers on OU’s roster other than Lamb?

The Ravens didn’t really build around Lamar. They just gave him more speed, which is what every QB needs. I just hope a coach doesn’t try to change him into something he’s not. If Dak can do well in the league then Hurts can
Dak is a smarter qb than Jalen. Hes just inaccurate.
 

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There's some talent there but he has to go to a team like the ravens that's all in him, and will tear down everything and build an offense completely around his strengths.

He's not gonna have Lincoln Riley and that offense that makes everybody put up good looking numbers. If he gets drafted to a team that forces him into a traditional 5-7 step drop under the center offense, then it could get ugly. :sadcam:
 

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Dak is a smarter qb than Jalen. Hes just inaccurate.


Of course he's smarter than Hurts, he's been in a NFL system, Jalen is still in college breh :what:



You're comparing a college QB IQ, who hasn't played a down in the NFL to a QB that's played several downs in the NFL. come on breh :what:


College defenses and NFL defenses are not the same. :what:
 

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Hurts lights up LSU defense with his arm and also does well in the ship game, he can become the top qb or maybe leap in the 1st round
 

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There's some talent there but he has to go to a team like the ravens that's all in him, and will tear down everything and build an offense completely around his strengths.

He's not gonna have Lincoln Riley and that offense that makes everybody put up good looking numbers. If he gets drafted to a team that forces him into a traditional 5-7 step drop under the center offense, then it could get ugly. :sadcam:

Most likely wont happen. Shotgun has mostly taken over

https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/snap-rates--shotgun-v-under-center--off-.html

Not sure how accurate that is, but if it is, only 5 teams take the majority of their snaps under center vs shotgun.

And of 30 teams. Of those small amount of plays under center, 0 teams when taking snaps under center pass more than they run. So most likely he goes to a shotgun team, and the few snaps he'll take under center will most likely be hand-offs/pitches. Its still a skill he'll have to work on though.
 

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Without looking it up can you name the other starting receivers on OU’s roster other than Lamb?

The Ravens didn’t really build around Lamar. They just gave him more speed, which is what every QB needs. I just hope a coach doesn’t try to change him into something he’s not. If Dak can do well in the league then Hurts can
Nope. Wtf is that supposed to mean tho:heh:? A lot of nikkas probably don't know who Michael Thomas is, but does determine his impact of the field? Hell no.

...and Dak in his senior year was a better passer than Hurts is currently. Come on, breh:comeon:.
 
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