Jamaica’s Steely & Clevie Productions Take Reggaetón’s Biggest Hitmakers To Court For Copyright Infringement

Ake1725

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Been saying Shabba Ranks and the dudes that made the beat should be set for life.:stopitslime: They use they are still using that beat on every song 20-30 years later. Imagine whole 12-20 song albums with one beat.:mjlol: They can sue that whole genre and to an extent modern Latin music. Even artist like Shakira have used that beat.
 

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I heard they bout to sue hip hop next

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Nah but for real infringement is infringement get ya money dread
 

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It's always been kinda sad seeing dancehall beats and riddims that were too raw for radio and most of the general public when I was growing up.

Be repackaged as pop songs and hit big with none of the original innovators getting a penny.

Hope they clean them out.

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:blessed: missi elliot paved the way got in Bad bunny's pockets for sampling get your freak on without permission got 99% of publishing and masters
PR need to stop emulating or at least use diff instruments or something. Or get proper permission and give props. They didn't even copy jamaicans they copied Panamanians steez but most of them had permission and deals with the original Jamaican producers. Glad that Panamanian jacker el Chombo is getting sued too. He practically tricked and bogarted lots of artist in Panama for their publishing and masters.
 

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:blessed: missi elliot paved the way got in Bad bunny's pockets for sampling get your freak on without permission got 99% of publishing and masters
PR need to stop emulating or at least use diff instruments or something. Or get proper permission and give props. They didn't even copy jamaicans they copied Panamanians steez but most of them had permission and deals with the original Jamaican producers. Glad that Panamanian jacker el Chombo is getting sued too. He practically tricked and bogarted lots of artist in Panama for their publishing and masters.

Wait really!?
 

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Wait really!?
Yes but im drunk still from last night and made a mistake missy gets 25% of the song cause there are 6 other samples on it. The artist Bad bunny and the duo jowell & randy get 1 percent each.

Missy Elliott Jumps Into the Bad Bunny 'Safaera' Conversation and Clarifies Royalty Details

But still she got'em for sampling with no permission.

If these Jamaican brehs have all their stuff registered right they gon spend lots of time in court but they getting their money.
 

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@IllmaticDelta

You going back & forth with someone not too long ago & how this sound was "borrowed" by Caribbean latinos lol


the beat/rhythm itself is actually a west african motif found all over New World Black (Americas) music via the slave trade:

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It exists in Afro-Latin music in Cuba




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the digitized version via Jamaican Dancehall was popularized in Panama by Jamaican/Anglo West Indians in Panama who came to speak Spanish

Renato is a Panamanian of Jamaican descent

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here goes a recent interview with renato



To paraphrase what he said: "I understand the Jamaicans (Buju in this case), we (as in Panamanians) didn't steal anything from Jamaica. Our heritage (he's talking the black panamanians like himself and el general) are from jamaican roots! we just did Dancehall in Spanish. Buju/Jamaicans really have beef with Puerto Ricans, not Panamanians"

this chick doing the interview is Panamanian




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In Puerto Rico, Island Ricans who already doing "Spanish Rap/HipHop" took that sound and multiplied it by Panamanian "Dancehall In Spanish" and created Reggaeton


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some of the comments on her video from Puerto Ricans and Panamanians actually hit on the difference between Panamanian "Reggae en Espanol" and Island Ricans "Reggaeton"


Rich the Military

1 year ago
Reggaeton is rap in Spanish from Puerto Rico on top of a Jamaican beat. Jamaican reggae is reggae in English and Panamanian reggae is reggae in Spanish. The difference with Puerto Rico is the rap in Spanish on top of the reggae rhythms. That's why it's not called the same and it's called reggaeton and only we have known how to do it better. Greetings from Puerto Rico.





edwin war

1 year ago
Hi, just to clarify. Spanish reggae is not reggaeton. Spanish reggae is just singing in spanish a regge/dancehall song that was originally in english; what we did in Panama is just to sing in spanish the same songs. Reggaeton is a mixture created by Puerto Rico of rap + spanish reggae/dancehall and the use of the beat of a song from jamaican artist Shabba Ranks called Dem Bow that became popular in Puerto Rico thanks to the spanish version of this song by Nando Boom (the real beat name is Pouder) they modified this beat slightly until it became "REGGAETON", even this name was a creation of Puerto Rico musical producers. In Panama we called all the music we created based on reggae/dancehall as "REGGAE EN ESPAÑOL = SPANISH REGGAE". Based on this, Mark Myrie's (Buju Banton) point of view is not correct; we didn't steal their music/culture, it arrived Panama because of the caribbean people that came for the Panama Canal construction as well as Soca, Ska, Calypso, Konpa and some other musical rhythms and we translate these songs to spanish, it evolved and we created our own songs in spanish but using their same instrumental versions. Puerto Ricans did the same, they adopted our spanish reggae and their young guys in the mid 80's started singing or rapping using that same beat "pouder" as the base for their songs and started calling it "REGGAETON", obviously it has evolved and turned to be popular and a commercial success. I think Buju is also wrong when he says there was no invitation to collaborate between reggaeton artists and jamaican artists, seems he doesn´t know that Beenie Man or Shaggy has recorded some songs with puerto rican reggaeton artists. Also Buju is wrong when he consider El General (Edgardo Franco) a reggaeton singer, as I said before what we used to do in the past is to sing spanish reggae (translate a reggae/dancehall song from english to spanish) and that's what El General did. The last thing I should said is that we have a lot of respect for jamaican reggae/dancehall and their artists, even our country is one of the markets that consumes reggae/dancehall music and receives a lot of their artists shows (including Buju). With all the respect Buju deserves, but I think his opinon lacks of the correct information and is not considering that music regardless of genre is always in a process of evolution.


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Eli VO

1 year ago (edited)
Reggaeton as we know it started out in Puerto Rico as Underground by combining reggae-en-Español (Jamaican dancehall made en Panama; due to import of Jamaica to work on the panama canals) and New York hip hop (lots of Puerto Rican en NY). This hip hop element is what separates reggaeton, along with house/electronic elements (house was Growing in popularity in the US) from Panamanian dancehall...now reggaeton has been made into pop music...
 

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Where are all the Hispanicacs and Canadians from the Bad Bunny thread?

@Gator Reloaded

Your time has come :ufdup:

They hijacked Jamaican culture and songs, and not even attend the West Indian Day parade cause they classify themselves as 'better' than blacks from the mainstream islands :mjpls:

Hope the Yard Man clean the pockets from spicy CACs and call them Jankrow while they get their money back.
 
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