Jamaica’s Steely & Clevie Productions Take Reggaetón’s Biggest Hitmakers To Court For Copyright Infringement

[Mike809]

is this similar to what cacs did with hip hop and its sampling?

 

[Gator Reloaded]

@Gator Reloaded

Your time has come

They hijacked Jamaican culture and songs, and not even attend the West Indian Day parade cause they classify themselves as 'better' than blacks from the mainstream islands

Hope the Yard Man clean the pockets from spicy CACs and call them Jankrow while they get their money back.

Are they suing Benito

 

[audemarzz]

is this similar to what cacs did with hip hop and its sampling?

No, it's dominicans and puerto ricans rapping over a jamaican loop and not crediting the producers of said loop for using it as a base.
It would be more comparable to cacs totally stealing rock music and making something new and goofy out of it.

 

[Mike809]

No, it's dominicans and puerto ricans rapping over a jamaican loop and not crediting the producers of said loop for using it as a base.
It would be more comparable to cacs totally stealing rock music and making something new and goofy out of it.

I thought puff got sued for the song "Every breath you take" and then theres the 1991 case of Grand Upright Music, Ltd. v. Warner Bros. Records, Inc. which
is why sampling in hip hop aint as prevalent as it used to be.

I find similarities in both , just that one is based on an entire genre riding on that one dembow beat, and early hip hop was very into sampling other artists before the lawsuit.

edit: but yeah , you're right....creating a genre from an entire dembow beat...and just using sample from other songs aint on the same level.

 

[audemarzz]

I thought puff got sued for the song "Every breath you take" and then theres the 1991 case of Grand Upright Music, Ltd. v. Warner Bros. Records, Inc. which
is why sampling in hip hop aint as prevalent as it used to be.

I find similarities in both , just that one is based on an entire genre riding on that one dembow beat, and early hip hop was very into sampling other artists before the lawsuit.

edit: but yeah , you're right....creating a genre from an entire dembow beat...and just using sample from other songs aint on the same level.

Puff got sued for looping a rock song, Rock is a genre invented by black americans that white people stole. "Every breath you take" is a rock song.
BIz got sued for that "just a friend" loop - by another black american.

A guy who was known for singing versions of other peoples' songs:
He followed up with a version of "Cry to Me", another Berns song that had previously been a hit for Solomon Burke[2] and Betty Harris. Although he continued to have success with R&B chart hits, including "(You) Got What I Need", written and produced by Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff,[3] and a version of Van Morrison's "He Ain't Give You None", his career was affected by Berns' sudden death at the end of 1967. Scott continued to perform, but spent much of the next two years without a record deal.[1] He eventually signed with the small Elephant V label, before moving on to Probe Records, where he had his last R&B hit in 1970 with a version of Bob Dylan's "I Shall Be Released."[4] He continued to work with his songwriting partner Helen Miller, wrote advertising jingles, and took minor roles as an actor in films, including Stiletto. He also recorded in the early 1970s for the Vanguard, Pickwick International and Mainstream labels, and continued to perform concerts.[3][1]

 

[Givethanks]

I always wondered what popcaan and the rest of the newer artist think about this.


It's so crazy to me that, these guys aren't big in Latin American markets.

 

[audemarzz]

I always wondered what popcaan and the rest of the newer artist think about this.


It's so crazy to me that, these guys aren't big in Latin American markets.

Somebody will aura clone them and translate it into spanish.

 

[KingADOS]

I always wondered what popcaan and the rest of the newer artist think about this.


It's so crazy to me that, these guys aren't big in Latin American markets.

It’s not crazy. Those markets are racist as fukk.

They used to call that shyt ****** music back in the day and wouldn’t play it, considered it “uncultured trash”.

All those anti-black latinos needed was a beige face to do it.

 

[Givethanks]

Somebody will aura clone them and translate it into spanish.

Wouldn't the appeal be the authenticity tho?

Like American rap? No matter who makes it, Canadians, Latinos, or Europeans. American rap will always set the bar and be the standard. I'm pretty sure lil baby or Durk can tour the world but whoever the equivalent to them in Europe can't come to the Americans and find the same success

 

[audemarzz]

@Givethanks Latin Americans would rather hear spanish and see each other performing the music. Authenticity doesn't matter.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I always wondered what popcaan and the rest of the newer artist think about this.


It's so crazy to me that, these guys aren't big in Latin American markets.

they speak the wrong language

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-arent-jamaican-dancehall-artists-blowing-up-like-spanish-reggaeton-artists-have-the-past-year.613757/

and the musical listening trends of "latin" youths is more one sided/uniform in a larger spanish speaking consumer base

With almost 500 million native Spanish speakers worldwide, any sweeping proclamations about the state of ‘Latin culture’ should be taken with a grain of salt. Just look at the USA; as one of the largest cultural melting pots in the world, almost 20% of the population is Spanish-speaking (a figure that makes it the 2nd largest Spanish-speaking country in the world, which looks to grow to 33% by 2050). And as the largest exporter of culture and entertainment

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jamaicans are english speakers but the "English" speaking black consumer base from a global POV have more heterogeneous musical tastes based on ethnicity/region

 

[K.O.N.Y]

they speak the wrong language

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-arent-jamaican-dancehall-artists-blowing-up-like-spanish-reggaeton-artists-have-the-past-year.613757/

and the musical listening trends of "latin" youths is more one sided/uniform in a larger spanish speaking consumer base

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Little Black Book, This Hispanic Heritage Month, SoStereo co-founders Salo Sterental and Beto Azout break down why - now more than ever - the world of advertising is dancing to a Latin beat

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jamaicans are english speakers but the "English" speaking black consumer base from a global POV have more heterogeneous musical tastes based on ethnicity/region

Yeah
For reggae in America it’s basically just the northeast

 

[lord canon]

i wanna see them get a big fat check

 

[Blessings]

Subs….

 

[Oatmeal]

When @LadyJ2 dropped the bomb about BadBunny I had to log out for a minute...

His music sounds like someone threw a bunch of pots and pans down a flight of stairs.