Janelle Monae HAS to be an Industry Plant.

[JustCKing]

You can’t just slide by the fact that ledisi doesn’t perform at them, there’s a huge difference between being in the stands observing a show and being on the stage.

No disrespect but you keep responding but not addressing the point - JM’s opportunities and resume doesn’t match her success, simply show me another artist that has had these opportunities without having a hit song or album

I didn't slide by the fact. I acknowledged it, but you're still not acknowledging that Andra Day attends AND performs with no real hits and has a song that has been played ad nauseam, but isn't a big hit either.

 

[Insensitive]

Janelle Monae writes the majority of her songs. She is credited as the writer of about 90 percent of her songs. She also has production credits on her albums.

She's credited as a writer but there's a lot of material that her boy writes.

For example if it requires orchestration, he had a hand in it. Janelle spoke on this prior.

One example being BaBopByeYa.

Janelle Monae isn't really just "Janelle Monae". Just like Prince isn't really entirely "Prince".

 

[NormanConnors]

Her music is critically acclaimed.

close thread

 

[JustCKing]

To be honest my dude... u just kinda proved how shes more likely a plant

No it doesn't. She was signed to Big Boi. I even gave a summary of why and how she got to where she is now. She went from being signed to Big Boi to being signed with Bad Boy. What ya'll don't get is the Grammys is an industry party. It isn't about hit records, #1 albums, or platinum plaques. This is an awards show where Beck can beat out Beyonce for a major award and there be no rhyme or reason why. Everybody that is nominated is nominated because the label submitted it to the academy. As to who performs, that may be more of a network thing. If you watch any of the CBS music specials, you will never be surprised by who takes the stage at the Grammys.

 

[TaxCollector13459]

She was on the Purple Ribbon compilation back in 05, Idlewild soundtrack in 06.

She's been putting in work.

Man, but still

 

[TaxCollector13459]

Pink puts up numbers on the low. Janell seems to appeal to a smaller and smaller niche of her fanatics each time out...yet you’d think she was tearing down the charts and streams

Pink had hits on the low too with the white crowd

 

[Booker T Garvey]

I didn't slide by the fact. I acknowledged it, but you're still not acknowledging that Andra Day attends AND performs with no real hits and has a song that has been played ad nauseam, but isn't a big hit either.

Have you lost your got damned mind? She sang RISE UP.

That’s a song that’ll be played probably for the rest of our lives - that is a HUGE song that went platinum and we’ve all heard it.

Where is janelle monae’s “RISE UP” Is what I’m asking...again man, you’re not disproving the premise of this thread at all.

 

[TaxCollector13459]

He has a point though. Gaga indeed has hits, but given how big Gaga was when she had all of those hits vs now, it's like she's being forced. I'm talking Super Bowl performance, Oscar buzz, consistently performing on the Grammys.

With Janelle, I think this is the first Grammy where she performed her own song. Before this year, she performed, but was a feature on a record that went #1.

Gaga got a massive following in Europe too.

 

[JustCKing]

Have you lost your got damned mind? She sang RISE UP.

That’s a song that’ll be played probably for the rest of our lives - that is a HUGE song that went platinum and we’ve all heard it.

Where is janelle monae’s “RISE UP” Is what I’m asking...again man, you’re not disproving the premise of this thread at all.

That song did not become platinum because it got played like a "normal song" does. It became platinum because

1) it was used in trailers

2) it was used in commercials for Idol and other programs

That is the reason I brought it up. This song didn't organically become platinum.

You're questioning Janelle's "success", but not questioning this:

Rise Up is featured in the September 2015 Serena Williams Beats ad campaign.[7]

On 12 May 2016, the song, "Rise Up" appeared in the twenty-second episode in season 12 of the medical drama, Grey's Anatomy, entitled "Mama Tried" during the scene where doctors Callie Torres and Arizona Robbins find out who gets the sole custody of their daughter Sofia.[8][9]

Later in 2016 Rise Up was featured in the trailer to The Birth of a Nation. The trailer was released on June 21, 2016 and the film itself came out on October 7 of that same year. The plot centers around enslaved preacher Nat Turner orchestrating an enslaved people uprising in the hopes of leading his people to freedom.

Rise Up has frequently been covered on talent shows around the world including America's Got Talent (Angelica Hale), American Idol, Britain's Got Talent Sarah Ikumu (Season 11) and The B-Positive Choir (Season 12) and The X Factor UK (Caitlyn Vanbeck & group performance). Kelsea Johnson (Season 14), Esera Tuaolo (Season 13), Aaliyah Rose (Season 12), Lauren Diaz (Season 11) and Tamar Davis (Season 10) performed the song on The Voice.

Rise Up was used by Hillary Clinton during her 2016 presidential campaign. It served as a theme song, often played at her campaign events and rallies.

Rise Up was featured in advertising for the ABC docudrama miniseries When We Rise. The program chronicled the LGBT rights movement in America.

On 21 October 2018, Rise Up was used in the episode "Rosa" of the science-fiction television series Doctor Who, heard throughout the final scene where Rosa Parks refuses to give up her seat on a bus, and continuing through the end credits.[10]

On 5 November 2018, Rise Up was used by Channel 5 to close the last ever episode of Big Brother (UK).

 

[Pitfalls0117]

Sounds like white people relationship with Kendrick. Joking but not joking. Thank God people don't worship that midget like they used to. K Dot could fart on record and cacs would eat that shyt up. And this is coming from a Cali nikka raised in the hood who actually understands K Dot life story through first hand experience. Cacs fantasize about hanging out at their local Stabucks with Kenny from Compton. "Kenny not like all of the other savages fm Compton, he got good grades in school. Good for him for not being a statistic like all of those other naughty negroes from the C-P-T".

Repped. Every white person I know is on Kendrick's dikk heavy whenever he puts something. The way they act you'd think he was beyond criticism. Chance the rapper same boat.

 

[duckbutta]

what does "critically acclaimed" mean?

cause i only ever hear that term tossed out for artist who's music a group of people keep pushing you to like but nobody really does...

Like...I don't know if I have heard a Janelle Monae song ANYWHERE...

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

That shyt was almost 15 years ago. That's like Sean Paul from the Youngbloodz being at the Grammy's every year and you point to Presidential as the reason why.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

That song did not become platinum because it got played like a "normal song" does. It became platinum because

1) it was used in trailers

2) it was used in commercials for Idol and other programs

That is the reason I brought it up. This song didn't organically become platinum.

WHAT?!!! Go back through our entire discussion and re-read everything. Your response just now is relevant to you?!

Maaaaan....this thread is yet further proof that you dudes have no debate skills whatsoever

 

[JustCKing]

WHAT?!!! Go back through our entire discussion and re-read everything. Your response just now is relevant to you?!

Maaaaan....this thread is yet further proof that you dudes have no debate skills whatsoever

You are questioning someone else's debate skills, yet you're committing one of the cardinal sins of debating. You're arguing with the person instead of defending or proving your stance or disproving mine.

 

[JustCKing]

And the premise of this thread was disproven several times when posters brought up Janelle's actual come up. This is the Booth though. People can post lies and get 50 million co-signs and the truth will be overlooked. I've witnessed this before.