Ja's "New York" was a big tune

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I don't think blood in my eye mattered, and in all honesty, there was nothing Ja could've done to counter the harm that was being done to him in that era, because what made Ja such an easy target in the first place was the culture norms of the time period, Ja's music, and the type of artist he was presenting himself as. In short, Ja re-inventing his image and sound after VVV from a more traditional NY street artist into a sing-songy, female oriented artist that did duets and emotional relationship records is what did him over. In retrospect, the culture, specifically the male element, just wasn't open for anything perceived as "soft" as the singles, music videos, and pics in magazines/posters that Ja was putting out.

And sure, you had LL cool J before Ja, but LL was aware enough to realize he had to insert street records in between his female-oriented records as way to protect his image. In point, LL never let himself get blinded by the sales of his pop/female records like Ja&Irv did. And even worse, Ja's music was overexposed, and Ja&Irv was still sending out mix signals. Like, they still wanted hood culture to be the back drop of their brand while at the same time putting out singles&imagery that catered to mainly females and pop audiences. This just killed Ja's believability and likability among the male-audience. So when 50 came back out in 02, he was just saying what most people were already feeling about Ja.

This is why I say there was nothing Ja could've done, he just had no believability. Like, Ja&Irv could've literally went up to hot 97 with paper work showing 50 made a statement to police about them, read said paper work verbatim on air, and then leave it with the radio station so they can verify the authenticity of the docs themselves, and still not a single soul would believe fif snitched on them.
 
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Breh I been saying since 2003/4 50 did not end Ja Rule career, Ja ended Ja career and I have not ever changed that opinion.

BIME did more damage to Ja career than any 50 track ever did

Plus Ja was already fading away. I liked Last Temptation but that album was a flop for Ja standards and that was before GRODT.

Still say he had a few years left of at least going gold-platinum but the 3-4x Platinum days were over for him before 50 debut album dropped.

Had Ja ignored 50 or kept it to 1 or 2 responses Max and kept doing him instead of dedicating a whole mediocre album to dissing 50 he would not have went out like he did and I been saying that for no less than 15 yrs.
Yeah, round the time Ja's reign was ending he was making pop love songs with Ashanti and we wasn't feeling that. 50 took his style and ran with it.

Didn't help Ja that Jay z retired around that time (more like fell back and did features here and there) cause he knew 50 was going to take over the game.
 

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This song along with the song he did with R Kelly briefly bought back Ja's career..


:salute: to Jada and Fat Joe for doing a song Ja after the whole Hip Hop culture turned on Ja.
not really.

Ja was pretty much on the decline by then

If anything that was his last 'hoorah' as far as mainstream relevance.
 

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So many NY hip hop giants in the video :whew:

When all of New York came together to shyt on Curtis, you knew his reign was over :wow:


Over? The Massacre came out and sold 1.15 million copies in its first week. :rudy:

I liked New York though. It was a final hoorah for Ja. He went out on a good song.
 

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so was this


I feel like 50 pulled ja's skirt up, this song looks like gangstalicious on the boondocks, so over the top it looks like a parody. Anyway, this proves that Ja was a terrible rapper
 
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