Jay Stans love using the longevity argument except when it comes to Nas

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Jay and Nas have had long fruitful careers, but Jay has been more consistent ...has been able to maintain a higher level of revelance

Getting married to Kelis ...the controversial album titles...the Lil Nas X collaboration... Wasn't enough

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Yes, relevance because of his billionaire status and Beyoncé, riding Kanye’s waves, and attaching to whoever is hot at the moment lol

Let’s not pretend like his music hasn’t been MID for a decade +
 

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Yeah that had nothing to do with the actual first week sales.

You are retarded. Do you know what a cert is?

Why are you glossing over the fact Jay Z had used companies to buy his albums?

Isn’t that my whole point of Hov doing everything he can to stay relevant

Drake, 50, Nelly, Kanye, DMX, etc guys who constantly outsold him during his career never did that
 

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Why are you glossing over the fact Jay Z had used companies to buy his albums?

Isn’t that my whole point of Hov doing everything he can to stay relevant

Drake, 50, Nelly, DMX, etc guys who constantly outsold him during his career never did that

They didn’t buy his albums, Because that cert had nothing to do with album sales.

You are just retarded.
 

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Yes, relevance because of his billionaire status and Beyoncé, riding Kanye’s waves, and attaching to whoever is hot at the moment lol

Let’s not pretend like his music hasn’t been MID for a decade +
1.Beyoncé’s fans don’t care about Jay Z and the album they did together is the lowest selling of his career.

2.) Jay Z hasn’t released an album since becoming a billionaire

3.)Jay has albums that aren’t produced or featuring Kanye that were massively successful.


You are just retarded repeating the same debunked talking points.
 

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1.Beyoncé’s fans don’t care about Jay Z and the album they did together is the lowest selling of his career.

2.) Jay Z hasn’t released an album since becoming a billionaire

3.)Jay has albums that aren’t produced or featuring Kanye that were massively successful.


You are just retarded repeating the same debunked talking points.

Why do you equate good music to = massively successful?

So is Eminem greater than Jay cuz he outsells him anytime he wants?

I’m guessing DMX is greater as well, Biggie, Drake, OutKast etc who have all outsold Jay

Atleast those guys did it Organically

Jay had to marry the biggest artist in the world, use Samsung, Sprint, Tidal to boost sales and ride whoever was hot at the moment and Chase big radio singles
 

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Why do you equate good music to = massively successful?

So is Eminem greater than Jay cuz he outsells him anytime he wants?

I’m guessing DMX is greater as well, Biggie, Drake, OutKast etc who have all outsold Jay

Atleast those guys did it Organically

Jay had to marry the biggest artist in the world, use Samsung, Sprint, Tidal to boost sales and ride whoever was hot at the moment and Chase big radio singles

Because We are in a thread about relevance.

Everything else is an opinion.

All those talking points are debunked and you keep repeating them because you are retarded. You have never been able to explain the Beyonce album being his lowest selling album because it destroys that talking point.
 

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Because We are in a thread about relevance.

Everything else is an opinion.

All those talking points are debunked and you keep repeating them because you are retarded. You have never been able to explain the Beyonce album being his lowest selling album because it destroys that talking point.

Got it

Jay Z doing an interviewing denying raping an underage girl and being on the Epstein list is culturally relevant.

Meanwhile the other guy dropping critically acclaimed albums, award winning documentaries, creating a hip hop museum in the Bronx, doing the Paid In Full Foundation that gives back to the pioneers, selling out arena shows,, is not culturally relevant

Yeah you definitely a retard :dead:
 

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Got it

Jay Z doing an interviewing denying raping an underage girl and being on the Epstein list is culturally relevant.

Meanwhile the other guy dropping critically acclaimed albums, award winning documentaries, creating a hip hop museum in the Bronx, doing the Paid In Full Foundation that gives back to the pioneers, selling out arena shows,, is not culturally relevant

Yeah you definitely a retard :dead:

1.)It was the biggest thing in hip hop that week.

2.)Denying being lied on was one question of a 35 min interview. And for the 4th time he’s not on the Epstein list.

3.)He’s not culturally relavant because no one outside of his Stan’s give a fukk about any of that shyt. Jay is way more relavant. Jay literally sold out a stadium 3 nights in a row off 30 and 25 year old albums. Nas could never do that.

You are literally retarded and a bitter old hater 😂
 

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1.)It was the biggest thing in hip hop that week.

2.)Denying being lied on was one question of a 35 min interview. And for the 4th time he’s not on the Epstein list.

3.)He’s not culturally relavant because no one outside of his Stan’s give a fukk about any of that shyt. Jay is way more relavant. Jay literally sold out a stadium 3 nights in a row off 30 and 25 year old albums. Nas could never do that.

You are literally retarded and a bitter old hater 😂


It was the biggest thing because of the Epstein List and rape allegation… not cuz of the music

Go look at any comment in social media, anytime Hov is brought up, they bring up the Epstein list

And if we wanna bring up sales and selling out stadiums… Kanye, Drake, Kendrick, Eminem, Post Malone, Travis Scott are outdrawing Jay

But sales only matter when it suits you
 

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It was the biggest thing because of the Epstein List and rape allegation… not cuz of the music

Go look at any comment in social media, anytime Hov is brought up, they bring up the Epstein list

And if we wanna bring up sales and selling out stadiums… Kanye, Drake, Kendrick, Eminem, Post Malone, Travis Scott are outdrawing Jay

But sales only matter when it suits you

1.)It was one question and the topic of his convo on rap beefs was bigger than that clearly.

2.)Social media being retarded and not knowing the facts is not my problem.

3.)When we bring up music, you then start to make excuses and debunked talking points why the music was successful.

4.)What do those people have to do with Jay and Nas? Is Nas more relavant than Jay right now yes or no?


You are literally a retard
 

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1.)It was one question and the topic of his convo on rap beefs was bigger than that clearly.

2.)Social media being retarded and not knowing the facts is not my problem.

3.)When we bring up music, you then start to make excuses and debunked talking points why the music was successful.

4.)What do those people have to do with Jay and Nas? Is Nas more relavant than Jay right now yes or no?


You are literally a retard

I think the rape allegation and Epstein list got Hov Stans not thinkin straight

Culturally relevant to you is whoever the hottest topic on Shaderoom is :mjlol:

Of course a billionaire who’s married to the biggest star in the World doing an exclusive interview denying his rape & Epstein list accusations would be a big news story..

I’m done here bro, I’m 100% sure ur a cac :hubie:
 

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The last Nas album I liked was lost tapes in 2002

I said that interview was a bigger moment within hip hop culture than those Nas albums….You don’t agree?

You think Magic 2 has more people talking than that interview?
What makes the interview bigger? :jbhmm: The collab with DJ Premier, regardless of whether it met people’s expectations or not, is significantly bigger than Jay-Z having a sit-down interview for the first time in a long time. This is something rap fans have been talking about for over two decades and it finally happened. That by itself was monumental. I’m not even trying to be dismissive of Jay-Z because I feel like he has a plan for this year and it’s already colossal with the interview you mentioned, his concert announcement, and the vinyl releases for RD and some of his big records.
 
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