JAY-Z has a 50 million dollar EQUITY STAKE in the ACE OF SPADES BRAND...

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Now add that number up with the one I said before
You are now lookin at one smart black boy
Momma ain't raised no fool
Put me anywhere on God's green earth, I'll triple my worth
Motherfukker - I, will, not, lose


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Hav da :king:


That 0.07 percent probably brings him a couple million a year. He will go down as one of the smartest business man in African American history of Rap. :ehh:

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@PimpstarP The company that makes the "Ace of Spades" champagne has been in business for a while but the specific version/bottle that Jay pushes didn't even exist until it showed up in his video

The short story is Jay partnered up with some second tier champagne maker that makes a $70 champagne to make a ~$200 to sell as the new Cristal to hip hop listeners

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Some observers suspected that Armand de Brignac was Jay-Z’s latest business venture. Accordingly, two days after the gold bottle’s inclusion in the “Show Me What You Got” video, Armand de Brignac attempted to dispel rumors of a financial connection. Representatives issued a press release explaining that the wine was simply an “ultra-luxury product in the high-end champagne category” that was “making its North American debut this year, after enjoying success as a premium, high-end brand in France.”

Amid the aftermath of the divorce between Jay-Z and Cristal, Branson B. found himself in France, hand-selecting grapes for his own Branson B. Cuvée champagne. During the three months he spent in the heart of wine country, he never heard a peep about Armand de Brignac or Ace of Spades. The notion that it had enjoyed “success as a premium, high-end brand in France” just wasn’t true. “Didn’t exist,” he told me.

Jay-Z may tout Armand de Brignac in his songs and videos, but to some champagne industry veterans, it’s at best a mediocre product masquerading as a high-end delicacy. “It tastes like shyt,” says Lyle Fass, an independent wine buyer in New York. “At least Cristal tastes good.”

In response to such criticism, employees of Cattier, the French Champagne house that produces Armand de Brignac, like to tout their product’s accolades. In December 2009, for example, it was named the world’s best-tasting champagne by Fine Champagne magazine. Fass wasn’t impressed. “These wine tastings are garbage,” he says. “Everybody has a wine tasting … There’s a lot of stupid people in the world.”

Armand de Brignac tends to score in the low nineties on the industry-standard 100-point wine rating scale, which places it on par with wines that sell for $50 or less. Yet Armand de Brignac has sold 100 percent of every annual release. “Everybody should take a lesson who wants to sell wine that sucks,” Fass says. “Because it is probably the most brilliant marketing in the history of wine.”

So why would Jay-Z get involved with a second-tier champagne? Because of the immense profit potential. Fass estimates that Cattier’s production cost for each $300 bottle of Armand de Brignac is a mere 10 euros. Assuming Jay-Z is an investor, the connection could be through any number of outlets: Cattier itself, the brand Armand de Brignac, the importer, the exporter, or the distributor. All of these entities are registered with an array of state and national government agencies in the United States and France. Theoretically, the link could be established with a little bit of sleuth work.
 
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@PimpstarP The company that makes the "Ace of Spades" champagne has been in business for a while but the specific version/bottle that Jay pushes didn't even exist until it showed up in his video

The short story is Jay partnered up with some second tier champagne maker that makes a $70 champagne to make a ~$200 to sell as the new Cristal to hip hop listeners

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:why: you really got some ANGER ISSUES in regards to JAY-Z business venture... and it's funny considering you have a picture in your avi of the "TALL ISREALI" whom actually cosigned and is like a mentor to many of JAY-Z's enterprising ideas.......(lyor cohen).....dude you are confused

how the hell can u get mad at JAY-Z for making a relativily unknown champagne bottle a much mentioned brand??

who gives a fukk about the QUALITY or STANDARDS seen by the wine experts??...

it ain't like those ballers and rappers and everybody else who are clutching those bottles care.......

even that angry wine magazine editor admitted:

"it is probably the most brilliant marketing in the history of wine.”

that's what proper marketing and promotion is about making something more popular than what it is or in this case even deserves...

people buy into marketing schemes all the time.....and JAY-Z has succeeded, regardless how "crappy" these bourgeise taste makers think the product is
 
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@The HONORABLE SKJ You think I'm mad? :heh: Cuz I'm setting the Jay nut licker / stan straight cuz he thinks it's really the best champagne in the world? :heh:

I don't give a fokk if it is or isn't I don't even drink :huhldup:

This is a perfect example of raping hip hop culture though :troll:

Hol up let me secretly start a new champagne then I'll act like it's better than Cristal in my raps and I picked it because of my great taste :troll:

Oh and the fact that I basically partly own it? Hip hop doesn't need to know that :troll:
 
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@The HONORABLE SKJ You think I'm mad? :heh: I'm just setting the Jay nut licker / stan straight cuz he thinks it's really the best champagne in the world? :heh:

I don't give a fokk if it is or isn't I don't even drink :huhldup:

This is a perfect example of raping hip hop culture though :troll:

Hol up let me secretly start a new champagne then I'll act like it's better than Cristal in my raps and I picked it because of my great taste :troll:

Oh and the fact that I basically partly own it? Hip hop doesn't need to know that :troll:


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here u buffoons go with this CULTURE SHYT....

look i'm in my LATE THIRITES ....I Actually grew up when it was ACTUALLY A CULTURE..... breakdancing, beatboxing, deejaying, graffiti and rapping at a time when NICCAS WASN'T GETTING JOINT VENTURES , ENDORSEMENT DEALS AND PUBLISHING OPPORTUNITIES


now it safe to say it is STRICTLY BUSINESS (no pun intended)....

it makes sense when u realize the realities of living in a capitlistic western world...

a professor in college once told me..."if a hobby , trend or activity isn't able to become a profitable entitiy , it's safe to say it will lose it's relevance"

HIP HOP has accomplished what go go music or any other genre or field of entertainment failed to do, which is stay RELEVENT in the capitilist world

HIP HOP is a pop culture industry which is mosty based on mass marketing , product placement and branding...

JAY-Z isnt doing anything that CHRIS LIGHTY (RIP), RUSSELL SIMMONS, STEVE STOUTE and many other corporate friendly "hustlas" would have done thier damn selves.....

and what's wrong with EARNING SOME CAPITAL and EQUITY at the same time????

you act like it's some crime for a RAPPER to become ENTERPRISING during his latter years

wtf you want him to do SING and DANCE and just ignore the financial side things for the SAKE OF CULTURE.......... FUKK DAT!!! :shaq2:

You call it "RAPE" i call it "THINKING PROGRESSIVE".....

for all the years Black entertainers been SINGING AND DANCING and ending up broke and not even able to have control over the art they created........JAY SHOULD BE DOING DEALS LIKE THIS......

to put it in a nutshell..i'd rather JAY do the RAPING then have to watch him get "RAPED FINANCIALLY"......

you should be :salute: this dude...but you up here with this unwarranted hate
 
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@PimpstarP The company that makes the "Ace of Spades" champagne has been in business for a while but the specific version/bottle that Jay pushes didn't even exist until it showed up in his video

The short story is Jay partnered up with some second tier champagne maker that makes a $70 champagne to make a ~$200 to sell as the new Cristal to hip hop listeners

@Harry B

I read the article when it came out, I still don't know why one independent buyers voice would be more important to you than the most respected magazine in the fukking business.. I believe that it costs about twice as much as it should, BUT they do not have economies of scale like Roederer and LVMH. I also think the fact that they have handmade bottles and hand picked grapes and no other successful brand to offset fluctuations plays a part in the higher price. So in the end all things taken into consideration it's fairly priced, perhaps a bit overpriced.

Hiphop listeners are not the only ones buying the most expensive shyt in the clubs all over the world. Do you think Chinese ballers give a fukk about a rapper endorsement? Exclusive clubs all over the world have it. Jay-z marketed it to other artists/ballers and other artists marketed it to club goers and owners and it goes on. But if it didn't get all the prestigious prices it wouldve flopped. Jay-z is not a god, look at armadale shyt got thrown in the bushes quick as fukk.
 
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here u buffoons go with this CULTURE SHYT....

look i'm in my LATE THIRITES ....I Actually grew up when it was ACTUALLY A CULTURE..... breakdancing, beatboxing, deejaying, graffiti and rapping at a time when NICCAS WASN'T GETTING JOINT VENTURES , ENDORSEMENT DEALS AND PUBLISHING OPPORTUNITIES


now it safe to say it is STRICTLY BUSINESS (no pun intended)....

it makes sense when u realize the realities of living in a capitlistic western world...

a professor in college once told me..."if a hobby , trend or activity isn't able to become a profitable entitiy , it's safe to say it will lose it's relevance"

HIP HOP has accomplished what go go music or any other genre or field of entertainment failed to do, which is stay RELEVENT in the capitilist world

HIP HOP is a pop culture industry which is mosty based on mass marketing , product placement and branding...

JAY-Z isnt doing anything that CHRIS LIGHTY (RIP), RUSSELL SIMMONS, STEVE STOUTE and many other corporate friendly "hustlas" would have done thier damn selves.....

and what's wrong with EARNING SOME CAPITAL and EQUITY at the same time????

you act like it's some crime for a RAPPER to become ENTERPRISING during his latter years

wtf you want him to do SING and DANCE and just ignore the financial side things for the SAKE OF CULTURE.......... FUKK DAT!!! :shaq2:

You call it "RAPE" i call it "THINKING PROGRESSIVE".....

for all the years Black entertainers been SINGING AND DANCING and ending up broke and not even able to have control over the art they created........JAY SHOULD BE DOING DEALS LIKE THIS......

to put it in a nutshell..i'd rather JAY do the RAPING then have to watch him get "RAPED FINANCIALLY"......

you should be :salute: this dude...but you up here with this unwarranted hate

cofukking sign
 

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:heh: you don't see how he's using the culture (music) to push his business (champagne) all while acting like he's adding to the culture (by acting like he's putting people on to this champagne that's better than Cristal... oh wait he gets a cheque from that :heh:)

I respect :takedat: more for being open about his deal with Ciroc and making it clear that he endorses it

:huhldup: has to front like he's some wine tastemaker... fokk outta here :scusthov:
 
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the most respected magazine in the fukking business

:childplease:

this is the only champagne magazine that exists
and it was founded in 2009

I'm pretty sure if they have to limit their content to just champagne to get a niche in the magazine game AND they were founded 3 years ago they can't be all that influential :heh:

it's like a magazine for only east coast rap being founded in 2009 and you saying that their reviews are widely respected :what:
 

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Money will lead you to more money. A lot of Jay-Z investments came from endorsements which lead to him investing, or him investing in a company that he endorsed. Attaching your name to a product isn't that hard as a celeb. Either way it doesn't matter to me....

Jay-Z was the frontman of a label that lead the charge in popularity at the right time. He's not the only one, or even the first one. If anything, he's probably the only one that compromised who he was in identity. Why don't they do more articles on other rappers that built theirs from the muscle solo like RZA, Ice Cube, Master P, JD? These men started from scratch, with little to no backing and built empires.
 

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this is the only champagne magazine that exists
and it was founded in 2009

I'm pretty sure if they have to limit their content to just champagne to get a niche in the magazine game AND they were founded 3 years ago they can't be all that influential :heh:

it's like a magazine for only east coast rap being founded in 2009 and you saying that their reviews are widely respected :what:
I was obviously talking about Win&Spirits, I think it's been here for 40 years..
They gave it a 94/100, Cristal 97/100 for the 04, 95 for the 02 and 1992 to 1997
and Dom P about the same between 90 and 95 over a decade of vintages.

So I mean it's obviously up there, it's not worth the price really but like I mentioned with economies of scale, other brands for offsetting fluctuations, handmade bottles and shyt like that them having a higher price is not surprising.
 

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Money will lead you to more money. A lot of Jay-Z investments came from endorsements which lead to him investing, or him investing in a company that he endorsed. Attaching your name to a product isn't that hard as a celeb. Either way it doesn't matter to me....

Jay-Z was the frontman of a label that lead the charge in popularity at the right time. He's not the only one, or even the first one. If anything, he's probably the only one that compromised who he was in identity. Why don't they do more articles on other rappers that built theirs from the muscle solo like RZA, Ice Cube, Master P, JD? These men started from scratch, with little to no backing and built empires.
Probably cause none of them are really interesting or fell off.
Like Ice Cube, how interesting is it to hear about a rapper turning into a average actor? Will Smith or Mark Wahlberg are a lot more interesting in that regard. Master P & JD Fell off. Now Rza, that shyt would be interesting and he's got a couple of interesting articles and will get more now that he's delivering more on that other level.

Jay-z and Puff just seem like a lot more interesting cats involved in a lot more interesting shyt, the difference is probably that Puff doesn't have a lot of fans. Too many cats hate on him, a lot of cats hate on Jay too but he's got mad fans to make his haters dwarf into irrelevance.
 
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