Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
The stat of 12 number one albums holds no weight. You can debut number one and finish with very weak sales if you drop with no competition. HOWEVER, the stat of 12 million+ selling albums holds A LOT of weight.
Sure 50, nelly, Kanye, and Wayne all had years where they dominated. But they came and went while jay has remained. A true king doesn't have a couple hot years then struggle right after. A true king puts up CAREER numbers.
Sure nelly was blazing hot for 3 years and hot another 2. Sure 50 was blazing hot for 3 years and hot for another 2. But what did that get them ALL TIME? You know what that "five hot years then fell the fukk off" got 50 and nelly? 30 million records sold. You know what that "2nd place for 17 years" got jay z? 50 million sold.
You made the argument that a big week doesn't mean shyt but a big year means everything.
We'll I'll make the argument that a big CAREER means everything.
And the fact remains, regardless of his year to year placement, unless you are a white rapper or the rapper most often considered the goat, jay outsold you.
Jay didn't dominate a set few years, but his CAREER has far surpassed that of 50, nelly, Wayne, Kanye, big, DMX, and everyone else aside from em and PAC.
Forget longevity vs. dominating a specific time, these rappers WISH they could sell 50 million in their career PERIOD
#factsonly
jay only got to actually survive because he never took on the mantra of emcee, when it worked in his favor.
at least to nelly and fiddy's cases..
I can easily say,...they at least went for the crown with no relevent cosign.
nor did they piggyback.
they were that large of a draw from a industry building block grassroots wise.
the industry had to actually work to accommodate them.
plus, in their highest or lowest incarnations inbetween their first and second releases.....
I can also, say they put their neck on the line battling in an antagonistic fashion.
as opposed to jay's sissy fight way of going about how he will get served.
at least in fiddy and nelly case I can say they battled the best.
or went at the best, with no bytch in them whatsoever.
to the point,..i can still feel that fiddy and nelly given their underground records to draw for longer than two years into a blockbuster major label draw.
still gives them the cred of acquiring a deal, on their first try.
jay never acquired a deal on his first try in his actual contemporaries time frame like nelly and fiddy.
where the idea of the goat was far solidified and out of their grasp.
plus, they never aligned themselves as cultural product producing artist.
whereas jay came up int he same era as the real goat and the candidates.
then, got on three productions gens later, in a jiggy commercial sellout fashion.
that is not based on a skills or cultural based level for success.
yet, at least fiddy and nelly who made the same non-culturally sellout based fashion material.
got on in their repective contemporaries era, in an era that business wise was able to and setup to bare that type of artist.
plus, actually sold ...like gangbusters when the industry was ripe for the taking.
when, jay, was setup originally to take the industry by storm.
in the wake of big, and had the cosign from that to capitalize.
the real goat krs, went plat and also....had the most recognizeable and relevant single for that release, in step into the world.
in a time period, where commercial jiggy-ism, actually established itself as the top drawing genre in rap in volume.
yet, jayz was never the top relevant artist then.
a krs who was out of difference with the marketplace.
actually made the best single lone submission.
the same krs, out of gen who took out nelly.
to nelly's credit,...he went against the best.
as did, fiddy in full blind faith no cultural footprint to stand on antagonistic fashion.
when jay had the chance to do so, and actually ruin nas at his height.
he was making subliminal unreleased diss records on the bootleg to volume iii.
for, an artist..that in that time frame.....
jay had no cultural footprint to win against nas.
yet, the industry and fan perception were so setup for the deflection based win, for jay.
his sissy fight style of battling and not really being a real champion in the ilk he says he, to seize the day.
at a point,..that if jay would have said nas's name on is that your chick and released a mixed down version .
complete with the twista feature.
nas, would have been incapable of recovering.
after nas was at a point of no-return as a cultural mutinous sellout.
including releasing material that was far under quality.
that nas would have been judged by lack of cultural identity, and low quality of work, and lost by default, at that exact time.
when volume ii was released as a bootleg, in the last quarter of the winter of 1999.
if jay was actually authoritative,..he could have ended nas, and completely eradicate any drawing artist with a cultural identity as relevant.
thus winnig the jiggy war and besting the actual best contemporary when he was released.
at a time when the balance of power could have been completely all his.
on a, non-shatterable glass ceiling level that had jiggy mainstream top draw cred at the top of the industry.
plus, the perception of taking out the last mainstream culturally relevant sellout in rap, for that era.
if jay would have beat nas,....
jay would hsve had the cultural victory over a figure, to trump any arguement as to his dominance.
yet, we get the narcissistic game of him and his stans to attempt to give him a fake victory
with nelly and fiddy, at least from the get go you got what was to be expected.
you expected them to be pop mainstream relevant and die a thousand deaths.
from their full lack of attention to detail culturally and skillwise as emcees.
in jay's case,....he jumped on whatever was hot and never dominated .
plus, never paid full attention culturally or to his skill as an emcee.
yet, in his case,...he was there and was the only one who could have capitalized to take the cultural edge completely out of rap.
since, jay failed and the magnitude of fail.
on top of being exposed as a less than game battle emcee.
jay, ruined his chance to completely dominate in argument like his pandering would lead you to mistakenly believe.
until a lackluster year of releases from 1998.
which, was apart of the sellouts attempt to take over rap, using major label distribution.
to succeed in the oversaturated releases of non-culturally endorsed low quality rap records of late 1995, 1996, 1997 and through to now.
jay got on in a sales tier, in a skills and culturally deficient and eroded era.
after the degradation of skills, on major label releases became abundant.
after the loss of the two [biggie & pac], which shattered the glass ceiling in pop sales for rap artist.
yet, it also allowed culture thieves jay was aligned with like puff. I
in the emotional wake and loss of big in the marketplace.
to literally destroy the marketplace, with low quality oversaturated pop commercial jiggy rap.
so, you really can not harshly criticize nelly and fiddy, culturally.
as harshly as jayz., as you can be critical of jay as an emcee.
as nelly and fiddy, put more on the line consistently and at their height in a higher frequency of volume.
plus, actually brought a sweeping change and turn into the marketplace,..
jay has never actually matched at any point in his career, wholeheartedly.
while also,,..never being the actual real gateway artist for the entire industry as nelly and fiddy were.
in the fashion, of originality and actual grassroots campaign that nelly and fiddy built from.
nelly and fiddy were destined to suffer from the typical general definition, of the destruction of a draw.
jay has not suffered in the same manner of their general definition when it comes to the destruction of their draw.
as he never created a sweeping gateway pop blockbuster sales draw.
that rivaled fiddy or nelly at their height.
plus, jay never actually did what people who are the best do, consistently skillwise.
which is either be good enough,.no one typically tries it, except every other era or not at all..
in the case of nelly,....nelly actually antagonized krs and baited him for a battle.
that if judged on asinine deflection loser bullshyt, that is not culturally accepted as ground for a win in a battle.
nelly against actual proven goat competition for their respective eras.
has the discussion and badge of courage at the very least for risking his top blockbuster draw, antagonizing a battle with krs with number one.
to the point,...it took krs took tries to get rid of him from a cultural and skill level as an equal as emcees.
yet,...when it comes to jay...
jay, did not fully do what nelly did.
nelly called out krs,...
jay waited to hope a rap scenario content wise would be pieced together,..which is ho shyt..
which is not what you do when you want to battle and actually win, consistently.
in the case of nelly and fiddy...tey emulated what the top draw is expected to actually do, whether win lose or draw.
in the case of jay,....he can never be the best..
as he never does what the top draw is expected to do.
yet, tries to raise a false points criteria wise,..as to false crown him a title he really never acquired.
art barr



