Jay-Z: “I Can Name All Of The People I Kept Out Of Prison Last Year, Can You?”

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

@ You thinking Public Defenders keep pepple out of jail.​

any who knows better will tell you the public defenders have the most experience and just by plain mathematics and ratios and that they keep more people out of jail than a private attorney does. just say you don't know better

yall need to stop thinking every case would be a win if you had money. cant everybody get off cuz not everybody is innocent. even meek sat in jail as a millionaire. sometimes money can help eventually like it did for meek. sometimes you gonna take an L like every other rapper in prison except they spent a million dollars and others spent nothing lol

 

[ogc163]

This is a dumbass argument and it's one of those skin in the game arguments that is really flawed. It ignores the limitations that the average person must contend with in creating change. A person can analyze Jay's actions and understand their flaws, even if there intricacies they cant fully grasp.

This type of argument is used by people to insulate themselves from criticism. But what happens if someone who has actually gotten /kept people out of jail criticizes Jay's actions? Would he suddenly be willing to listen and acknowledge his shortcomings? Lol probably not.

 

[Chip Skylark]

I wander can he name all the people he sold crack to that helped fukk up the hood, but that's none of my business

 

[old pig]

Recently, a clip surfaced of Jay-Z responding awkwardly to Roger Goodell trying to touch him during a meeting where the NFL and Roc Nation were announcing plans to launch a social justice and entertainment initiative.

 

[sidenikkagawd]

any who knows better will tell you the public defenders have the most experience and just by plain mathematics and ratios and that they keep more people out of jail than a private attorney does. just say you don't know better

yall need to stop thinking every case would be a win if you had money. cant everybody get off cuz not everybody is innocent. even meek sat in jail as a millionaire. sometimes money can help eventually like it did for meek. sometimes you gonna take an L like every other rapper in prison

You've obviously never dealt with facing jail time before.

You're actual innocence or lack of proof in conviction keeps you from being locked up if you have defense from a Public Defender. If you have a case that's on the fence, they put in minimal effort to try to fight for you. Believe me. I did a year in the county at 18 for a loaded gun that I legally owned and had papers to prove it, and they still didn't fight for me.

 

[Cladyclad]

This is a dumbass argument and it's one of those skin in the game arguments that is really flawed. It ignores the limitations that the average person must contend with in creating change. A person can analyze Jay's actions and understand their flaws, even if there intricacies they cant fully grasp.

This type of argument is used by people to insulate themselves from criticism. But what happens if someone who has actually gotten /kept people out of jail criticizes Jay's actions? Would he suddenly be willing to listen and acknowledge his shortcomings? Lol probably not.

All of us can do something. U don’t need money or influence to accomplish anything. Your time and effort is just as important. If all of us Coli brehs & brehettes take a Saturday off to volunteer in our communities to help the homeless, mentor, or whatever. We could change or help save people’s lives. But we don’t give a fukk. Majority of us want other people to handle these issues because they have money and we dont

 

[The Midnight Marauder]

Exactly how many of y’all kept brehs out of prison or paid their legal fees.. talk that shyt all y’all want but Jay put his money where his mouth is

In the past I've paid toward legal expenses of some of my friends that caught cases and needed help. Also hooked some of my guys up with lawyers I was cool with for a discount. I would do it alot more, for people I didn't know if I had the means. But I don't. I'm sure alot of people on here would say the same. I put my mouth where my mouth is just like Jay does. He just has alot more.

The thing that's being overlooked in this conversation is that this is bigger than just giving out money. I give Jay all the props in the world for helping those people out, but why do you need to team up with the NFL to continue doing these things?

Also, it appears very clear to me that Jay believes that how much someone cares about a certain cause is measured by how much money they give towards it. Or that social change can only come from cutting checks. The "Actionable Items" he talks about appear to just be throwing money at the problem and hoping for the best.

I totally believe that Jay truly wants to help bring about change, but I also think that his approach towards doing so is misguided and ignorant.

 

[bourgeoisie tall freak]

You've obviously never dealt with facing jail time before.

You're actual innocence or lack of proof in conviction keeps you from being locked up if you have defense from a Public Defender. If you have a case that's on thre fence, they put in minimal effort to try to fight for you. Believe me. I did a year in the county at 18 for a loaded gun that I legally owned and had papers to prove it and they still didn't fight for me.

so basically you are biased and maybe bitter

thats fine and all but like i said they keep faaaaar more people out of jail that a private one, you cant dispute that cuz its facts

 

[BK The Great]

Yea I seen this last week. We’ll see what Jay does though but I’m still not with him teaming up with the NFL.

 

[sidenikkagawd]

so basically you are biased and maybe bitter

You got it.

 

[Cladyclad]

In the past I've paid toward legal expenses of some of my friends that caught cases and needed help. Also hooked some of my guys up with lawyers I was cool with for a discount. I would do it alot more, for people I didn't know if I had the means. But I don't. I'm sure alot of people on here would say the same. I put my mouth where my mouth is just like Jay does. He just has alot more.

The thing that's being overlooked in this conversation is that this is bigger than just giving out money. I give Jay all the props in the world for helping those people out, but why do you need to team up with the NFL to continue doing these things?

Also, it appears very clear to me that Jay believes that how much someone cares about a certain cause is measured by how much money they give towards it. Or that social change can only come from cutting checks. The "Actionable Items" he talks about appear to just be throwing money at the problem and hoping for the best.

I totally believe that Jay truly wants to help bring about change, but I also think that his approach towards doing so is misguided and ignorant.

What is approach and what do u want him to do?

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Nobody is above criticism but if you're not doing shyt then who are you to be criticising anybody in the first place?

'IF' ...

its so easy to throw around that word

Jay Z has Jay Z money and connects and hes used some of that money to help keep people out of prison

You don't have Jay Z money + connects.. a noble deed you've written there but it can't be proven that you would do that very same deed if you met the conditions required.. nor can it be proven that you wouldn't..

Ultimately its a statement that holds no weight and this all goes back to my opening question..

So what, you're qualified to critique the man because you've issued a statement that you can't guarantee?

This is why the majority of criticism in life is worthless...

You cant buy your way out of immorality

Each deed you do stands on it's own

The good and the bad

 

[old pig]

Yea I seen this last week. We’ll see what Jay does though but I’m still not with him teaming up with the NFL.

this was my first time seeing it...wasn’t aware of the clip until I read the segment in your post

I agree w/ you...we 1000% know why goodell and the owners are partnering w/ jay...and jay is no fool so I imagine he knows why they’ve teamed up w/ him too as far as optics go...but I’m wonder if it’s just a $$$ play for him @ the end of the day or does he honestly think he can affect change as far as the culture of the NFL/owners go?

 

[Software]

Does this deal negate all the positive things Jay has done in the past? How do we know this deal will have a negative impact in the future?

 

[CHERUB]

Basically the same thing i said in the main thread and got negged for. Why does iany body crying on The Coli think their opinion matters
What are you nikkas doing to change shyt? Who are you nikkas anyway i suspect this whole narrative was started by some high ranking demonic cac that dont want the shyt to succeed. then of course you got the racist fukks on here who fall right in line