African Peasant
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You can't put Jigga above any of those Mc's : Nas, Pac, BIG, Face and Cube.
Jay-Z is not top 5 !
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Henri Christophe
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Youre right. He's isnt top 5.
He's top 1.
He's top 1.
pointproven214
i speak facts not emotions
i was about to say if u don't have a better 5 list without jay-z in it then this thread is useless.
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He's better than Nas and Big for sure.
He's in the realm of Pac and Scarface.
Cube is in another dimension though. GOAT.
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Funkadelic
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In which way(s) do you think that Jay is better than Nas but worse than Pac?
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3 classic albums that's more than either one of Nas or Big, the latter of which hardly released enough material to merit comparison.
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I just think Jay not only has 1 more classic than Nas but also has a stronger discography across the board despite falling off pretty heavily since American Gangster in 2007.
I don't think Jay is worse than Pac. I think he's better but if you put Pac above Jay I wouldn't be mad. They're interchangeable. Pac has 2 or 3 classics out of 5 albums released, and be it his last 3 albums so he was on the up.
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Reasonable Doubt is the most forced "classic" of all time.
IWW by equal measure then....
2 to 1 or 3 to 2. Whatever way you spin it, Jay has more classics. Even if I let you have the 2 to 2 argument, Jay's rest of > Nas' rest of in their respective discographies.
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Okay, so classics are your only criteria there.
And we actually on the amount of classics all three of them have.
But what about lyrics? Do you still hold Jay over Nas there?
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Discography is the biggest factor for me personally when it comes to rating who's GOAT. Lyricism doesn't matter as much because it's harder to assess given the subjectivity of it. Also because everyone has different styles etc. I'd say Jay was on equal footing with Nas on Reasonable Doubt lyrically speaking up to Dynasty or something. He obviously dumbed it down on purpose on The Blueprint and beyond in order to become more commercially viable. Nas meanwhile has remained elite lyrically throughout his entire career. He hasn't compromised on that. But again...it doesn't matter to me much. I know talent wise they are very similar. So it comes down to album for album. HOV advantage imo.
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I guess I just value lyrics more than you when comparing these too.
At least you acknowledge Nas' greatness and Jay's dip in quality as far as lyrical content over the years.
Album for album...Hov does have the advantage.
Both are top 3 for me though, lol.
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