Jay-Z playing in the car while Nas talks to DMX

[The Dust King]

I just said I love the movie for everything BUT the writing.

watchin belly daily but talkin sh!t on nas?.

sounds like a fakkit nas stan

I'm a huge Nas fan. That's why I'm hard on dude.

@ this fakkit nas stan

i shouldve known better

1 star, neg rep and we out

 

[Don Jesus]

watchin belly daily but talkin sh!t on nas?.

sounds like a fakkit nas stan





@ this fakkit nas stan

i shouldve known better

Shut your bytch ass up, "ooooh you be hatin on my man Nas you must be a secret fan"

No shyt? Wouldn't someone have to be a fan of someone's music to give valid criticism? Foh with your hood DVD elementary social media logic, keep negging me like the fakkit you are

A guys a fan of a rapper so he can't criticize? slap your mother and then slap yourself

 

[Don Jesus]

What do you mean by anywhere? It's not going to be Rocafella but that's not his aspirations. Is the label going to put out good hip hop music? Run The Jewels 2 was one of the most acclaimed albums of 2014 and Killer Mike is the closest thing we have to a Chuck D in this generation. I think Bishop Nehru dropped an album with MF Doom last year kid is like 18, Dave East is considered one of the best new cats from the city and his Black Rose project was well received. All these guys dropped under Mass Appeal last year. After this album drops Nas is going fully indy, there's talks of Lost Tapes 2 coming from the label, a compilation with big names and a Pimp C posthumous album.


Right now he's going ham with businesses and venture capital, he toured all of 2014 for Illmatic, he's been doing films and documentaries and sponsorships. Also, has his own streetwear company HSTRY that's doing pretty well and a huge sneaker store in Las Vegas. The man makes moves and lives a good life just to be dismissed as a smart dumb nikka because Jay-Z is more "successful" when they came into the game with different aspirations and mindsets.



Cole has a pair of classic mixtapes and a trio of average albums. Wale can rhyme, and has some decent stuff, his flow is god awful though, I don't recall Nas co-signing him honestly. Nas is in tune with today's music and he's far from one of those bitter old heads. Go listen to Hip Hop is Dead so you can truly grasp the themes maybe it wasn't the best title but hey it got people talking.

You have a point with Run The Jewes. But Dave East and Bishop aren't terrible, but they're not great either. They're just there. They spark no excitement

I actually hate he fact Nas keeps capitalizing off Illmatic. But not everyone can be Kanye. Maybe that's just his artistic niche. I always said Nas should have musically reinvented himself and started making music with people such as Madlib and Flying Lotus. But whatever. HHiD is a corny album. I don't care about the themes. The music just was forced. I don't care for rappers who push themes in music. If it doesn't come natural, then don't make it

 

[Free White & 21]

shut up, man.

this site is really full of 17 year olds

Fine nikka i'm 17
That Ether been burning since i was three

 

[prophecypro]

Bishop Nehru, Dave East etc are average at best

Jay-Z's tidal shyt isn't a failure. It's a learning step. Nas might not want the life Jay Z has and might just be living by his own means. Cool. But he's still done dumb shyt which hindered his artistic integrity. If you deny this, you're delusional

About the Hip Hop Is Dead thing, that album was motherfukking corny. I don't give a shyt if you're pushing a "resurrect hip hop" narrative. You resurrect hip hop by making good music, and by doing shyt behind the scenes. Not by making music telling people to make good music. shyts corny and forced. Nas himself made forgettable music for a short stint so he's one to talk.

If Nas was upset with the way the industry was going, he should go corporate and reinvent the game. But he won't. He doesn't care THAT much

Nas lost. He's a legend in hip hop, yet he makes no moves outside of it to reshape it. I don't give a fukk about some "eh" label. That label won't do shyt but release records of "eh" rappers. The entire idea of a record label is obsolete regardless

Your explanation was great but my point still stands

It clearly doesnt if my explanation was great

So Jay-Z is learning but Nas "doesnt want that life" what bollocks

I would say considering he's sitll got a presence after 20 plus years in the game and still seen as marketable by corporations like Sprite, he's probably survived more than his more credible peers. And given every young lyricst with promise under the sun gets compared to him, his artistic integrity is legit.

Now after someone explains HHID its corny because it doesnt meet your narrative stance?
Given that the album and sparked a year long conversation about if Hip Hop is Dead or not in mainstream press, I would say that guy did with an album that was only half-amazing

He cant have taken as many L's as you think if he's a Hip Hop legend. And given that the commerical presence on his label (Danity Kane going number 1 on the R&B charts last fall under Mass Appeal) its already found success as a boutique label along with credibility projects.

Really all you came up with where Skip Bayless like gas bag hottakes that people took down fairly easily. Its okay to critique Nas' albums or certain aspects of his career, realisitcally all successful artists have that. But stop trying to make it something where he's a failure because as time has gone on he's solidified his name in Hip Hop lore even more , so how bad could it be really?

 

[Don Jesus]

It clearly doesnt if my explanation was great

So Jay-Z is learning but Nas "doesnt want that life" what bollocks

I would say considering he's sitll got a presence after 20 plus years in the game and still seen as marketable by corporations like Sprite, he's probably survived more than his more credible peers. And given every young lyricst with promise under the sun gets compared to him, his artistic integrity is legit.

Now after someone explains HHID its corny because it doesnt meet your narrative stance?
Given that the album and sparked a year long conversation about if Hip Hop is Dead or not in mainstream press, I would say that guy did with an album that was only half-amazing

He cant have taken as many L's as you think if he's a Hip Hop legend. And given that the commerical presence on his label (Danity Kane going number 1 on the R&B charts last fall under Mass Appeal) its already found success as a boutique label along with credibility projects.

Really all you came up with where Skip Bayless like gas bag hottakes that people took down fairly easily. Its okay to critique Nas' albums or certain aspects of his career, realisitcally all successful artists have that. But stop trying to make it something where he's a failure because as time has gone on he's solidified his name in Hip Hop lore even more , so how bad could it be really?

Wrong, your explanation was well thought out, doesn't mean my point still doesn't stand...stop thinking black and white

Nas only survived this long because he's the general poster child of lyricism. Not because he was smart. Nas could have done so much more. I know this. You keep thinking about what he's done. fukk that shyt, because I'm more so about potential and not just settling.

Many hip hop legends have many L's. Are you trolling? Or are you really that clueless?

Nas came up short in general in his career. You can disagree, but ask yourself could he have been a powerhouse in hip hop? And not just some guy who keeps capitalizing off Illmatic? Ask yourself

Illmatic is Top 5 Rap Album ever, but If he releases It one more time I'm going shoot up a bank

 

[prophecypro]

Wrong, your explanation was well thought out, doesn't mean my point still doesn't stand...stop thinking black and white

Nas only survived this long because he's the general poster child of lyricism. Not because he was smart. Nas could have done so much more. I know this. You keep thinking about what he's done. fukk that shyt, because I'm more so about potential and not just settling.

Many hip hop legends have many L's. Are you trolling? Or are you really that clueless?

Nas came up short in general in his career. You can disagree, but ask yourself could he have been a powerhouse in hip hop? And not just some guy who keeps capitalizing off Illmatic? Ask yourself

Illmatic is Top 5 Rap Album ever, but If he releases It one more time I'm going shoot up a bank

You say he could have done so much and you know this but have no suggestion at what or how from your armchair A&R standpoint.

Keep thinking about what's he done? like 10 plat albums. How can he come up short when 90% of the guys who were doing the same great boom bap music as Illmatic arent in a position or getting the opportunities he is in 2015? If anything he overachieved later on.

 

[mr.africa]

Hip Hop is Dead was about the decline in certain aspects of hip hop culture, disregard for legends, commercialization of the genre and power of music labels. When did Nas say there was no good music being put out? This was a general sentiment at the time that Kanye co-signed as did Lil Wayne. The South just caught feelings when Nas said nothing of the South in the actual album.

Kendrick isn't a great rapper? J. Cole and Wale can't spit? Nas doesn't know hip hop? The man is the head of a label with acts like Run the Jewels, Dave East, Fashawn and Bishop Nehru.

Who Nas is involved with is irrelevant you're talking about a relationship dude was in when he was in his late teens and early 20's.

Him dropping a freestyle over Dilla 10 years later is an L now? Nikka who cares, you nikkas man

this nikka missed the ENTIRE point of 'hip hop is dead' album.
and i am one of the nas fans who does not like that album!!!
not once did he shyt on the south or its rappers or say that there was no quality hip hop anymore!!
@ bigging up certain rappers being an L for nas!!