Jay-Z-"Stop MAKING YOUNG MUSIC!!"

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Jay has always had a sprinkling of maturity on his albums.. like BP2 had trendy BS on there but shyt like Some How,Some Way is there too..

Jay’s albums have never been full of Peter pan shyt like Drake,Wayne

the overall hate seems kinda forced or some of you dont really get what hes saying
 

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His typical sitting on his high horse trying to talk at people. Jay was making bullshyt music well into his 40s.

for jay, of all people, to fix his lips to say some shyt like this. it just reinforces how arrogant and out of touch he is.

made almost nothing but young music for 99% of his career. then drops one old-head album and NOW the culture gotta move on? :laff: once again it's "i moved on to something different, and if you haven't moved on too you're wrong."

PS: he gets no creative credit for WTT... kanye was clearly creative director on that one.
PPS: no old-head credit for AWT either... or we gonna act like jay was "tryna kick knowledge" before he started running with j-elec?

Jay has hopped on trends since day one.

his whisper flow.. his song (not singing) type flow (from buckshot) the beat to PSA ... its documented that Blaze "found that sample" after black moon dropped of stay real at Hot 97

All of this. Jay is exhausting. If an interview from him isnt about his new music i dont care anymore lol.

Jay didnt make a "grown man album" until 444. Some others rappers were doing that from day one.

Jay maintained his music relevancy by wave hopping.

I agree with him but this is nothing new or profound.
 

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Jay has always had a sprinkling of maturity on his albums.. like BP2 had trendy BS on there but shyt like Some How,Some Way is there too..

Jay’s albums have never been full of Peter pan shyt like Drake,Wayne

the overall hate seems kinda forced or some of you dont really get what hes saying

This isn't true

Carter 2 Wayne made





Then the codeine start whooping his ass by C3

Drake made








Then he found his formula

Every artist path is different we don't need everyone to be mature, dense. Whatever
 

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Jay has always had a sprinkling of maturity on his albums.. like BP2 had trendy BS on there but shyt like Some How,Some Way is there too..

Jay’s albums have never been full of Peter pan shyt like Drake,Wayne

the overall hate seems kinda forced or some of you dont really get what hes saying
What trendy songs on Bp2
 

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Please do

X wasn't even signed to Irv

Big influenced everyone from Jay to Nas to a certain extent

Irv WORKED FOR DEF JAM WHEN X WAS THERE

What are you getting influenced from? You asked what trends Jay hopped on. Irv is literally explaining how Jay jumped on bad boy trends after big died then was in office at def jam cause of X.
 

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Jay-Z with an intact hairline and wicks still trippin' me out.
Grown man hip-hop gone be the new conscious hip-hop, labels incoming...
 

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All of this. Jay is exhausting. If an interview from him isnt about his new music i dont care anymore lol.

Jay didnt make a "grown man album" until 444. Some others rappers were doing that from day one.

Jay maintained his music relevancy by wave hopping.

I agree with him but this is nothing new or profound.

the nerve of a nikka who spit "fukk you tryna kick knowledge" and meant it as a diss, to tell people they have to evolve because he says so. the nerve of a nikka who spent most of his career telling us rap was just his hustle to now tell everyone else they have to grow up. as if dudes like common, nas, de la, tribe, ghost, outkast, goodie mob, pac, dmx, krs, scarface and too many more to count haven't been on that wave from day 1.

i applaud the man's success. but he's been severely out of touch since he had the audacity to sit in a room with roger goodell and say "we're past kneeling" in reference to kap. drop an album or stfu.
 

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Irv WORKED FOR DEF JAM WHEN X WAS THERE

What are you getting influenced from? You asked what trends Jay hopped on. Irv is literally explaining how Jay jumped on bad boy trends after big died then was in office at def jam cause of X.

influence
/ˈinflo͝oən(t)s/
Influence is the capacity or power to produce effects on the actions, behavior, or opinions of others, often without direct force. It represents an indirect, yet often significant, impact on someone or something. It can act as a noun (the power itself) or a verb (the act of affecting).
Merriam-Webster +3

Big/Bad boy influenced a lot of rap, what was popular in the 90s

Jay has been getting R&B artist on his hooks since his debut

Before they was Can I Get A there was Ain't No Nikka
 
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ima be honest, loved the clipse album, voted for it for AOTY on here last year in the thread.....but acting like rapping about moving weight on 80% of tracks at age 50 is mature music is insane
I can see your point with that statement but they been rapping about the drug game since the late 90s. They're also one of the few that talked about both sides of it, the high and lows.

That's why Malice is so vital.....he fills the gap of the lack of substance Pusha may have but I never had complaints from them. Ill rather for them to talk about what they know instead of faking it.

But again I see your point.
 
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influence
/ˈinflo͝oən(t)s/
Influence is the capacity or power to produce effects on the actions, behavior, or opinions of others, often without direct force. It represents an indirect, yet often significant, impact on someone or something. It can act as a noun (the power itself) or a verb (the act of affecting).
Merriam-Webster +3

Big/Bad boy influenced a lot of rap, what was popular in the 90s

Jay has been getting R&B artist on his hooks since his debut

Before they was Can I Get A there was Ain't No Nikka

You went from

"What trends" to somehow changing the subject to influence after Irv Gotti himself said and gave examples

You got it.
 
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