Jay Z vs KRS-One (Poll)

Jay Z or KRS-One?

  • Jay Z

    Votes: 118 58.1%
  • KRS-One

    Votes: 85 41.9%

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krs >>>>>>>> jay


krs = the real GOAT


krs is better than jayz in every imaginable facet.
to the point, that even right now.
krs is still head and shoulders above jay as a skill emcee talent.
we can look as far back.
as south Bronx, and the bridge is over to criminal minded.
all through jay's hiccups in his solo career before dead president's.
that jay only has one good quality feature on the bside the originators.
all the way to the current landscape skill wise and quality album record, right now.

to the point, that krs started his career with back to back classic singles.
then, followed it up with back to back classic albums.
that became the actual rubrick to making quality rap records in any rap genre.
while also ushering in the slow flow.
the first quality album and record standard marketable flow and delivery in rap history
that still to this day, govern and span from gangsta rap to any other imaginable rap termed genre.
so, off top....
anyone making a quality rap album has to follow the rubrick of criminal minded to by all means necessary.
meaning have a slow flow,..which jay did not master till 1997's, volume one to the streets is watching soundtrack project.
while also, leaning on the skillsts of his contemporaries in sauce money, BIG L and jaz.
the same skillsts he has no real mastery of.
plus, is viewed as his best era in skill output.
which is built off of completely biting the slow flow krs brought ot the dance.
plus, biting ll cool j's slow flow as well.
the same slow flow the entire record industry has had to master to sell rap records
which was brought single handidly to the forefront of rap by krs one.
a flow and style to this day, krs still shows the best proficiency of and also, incorporating styles
the same type of style that jay has ditched from his original incarnation as a performer or emcee.
that at times rears its ugly offkey head and is frowned upon by jay fans

krs is also the lone emecee who ushered in the new school way of thought, and also took out mthe last way of thought's best emcee.

while jay has lost every single time he has battled.
an of skilled battled emcee, has reluctantly decided to take and downplayed after loss.
alternatively krs is undefeated.
which includes the last large black selling artist not named eminem in nelly.
plus, took out the original best ny radio dj's understudy with the bridge is over.
on top, of being so fearsome in that arena.
no one dares to even think about.
nor, has a foothold to stand on cred wise to diss, the real GOAT, KRS 1.
krs, is the god father of emcee vocal delivery and style.
krs, is also, the godfather of the elongated syllable slow flow.
all are styles, jay has done or amalgamated for his own projects.
while, jay eliminated his own real skillset.
by using elements amalgamated from criminal minded to by all means, on other projects.
to be able to craft quality albums.
on top of the fact, jay patterned his entire career in the beginning.
to piggy back off of illmatic, and nas's solo foray.
the same ilmmatic, which was crafted from its krs 1 precursor and the original rubrick for illmatic.
which is krs's first solo titled lp, titled return of the the boom bap.
which was in 1993, which even later in the nineties.
krs still had the best actual single with step in the world in 1997.
after big and pac's death, broke the sales barrier based glass ceiling.
which, also saw jayz have to relaunch on defjam as a distributor.
which then, lead to his sales impactful triumph on 1998's volume ii.
that I have termed the sales spike era.
which culminated with the original marketing boom of leo burnett's focus on hiphop based marketing
during this time period was also a sonic landscape and change in bpm's for that era.
which impacted mostly all of rap, and ushered in the two syllable technically proficient mainstream rapper.
those technically proficient rappers with no connection to the culture, and fans who have no cultural connection.
oversaturated, and have attempted to squelch out the cultural connection of hiphop to rap.
which is why we have such a lopsided poll in erroneous favor of jayz.
QUESTION :
how is jayz better than krs.
when he employed and used every element krs brought to the dance, single handidly.
plus, does not have a better discography, at all.
which does not feature back to back classics in two different sonic landscape based gens.
plus, krs features a classic performance on survival skills.
on top of the classic return of the boom bap.
which is the precursor to illmatic and chased by mostly all of the debut artist and contemporaries in rap from the mid-nineties.
to compare to jay's lackidasical possibly ghostwritten feature lp on watch the throne.
plus, if we revision history for jayz's first album RD.
then, we have to revise history for krs.
which means, we would have to tally krs's classic record total.
to include every record he dropped from criminal minded in bdp.
all the way to his selftitled lp, KRS ONE.
if we revise history for jay's albums classic wise.
then, we still only get three records at best.
which are:
RD
BLACK ALBUM : which is controversial cause we don't know if he wrote it, at all.
BLUE PRINT : when, krs already created an album called blueprint.
that also, featured the style you haven't tried yet.
which is pretty much the introduction to the standard rhyme meter that jayz's mostly employed over his solo career relaunch.

so again, how in the hell is jay better.
when:
jay lost every battle with worthy skilled contemporaries.
incomparison to krs who slaughtered allcomers and took out the last guard's best emcee.
plus, served the last highest selling rapper in rap.
that was not white, in nelly./
jay only really has two classics.
while krs has legit, five classics, upon direct release with no revision.
that include:
criminal minded
by all means necessary
return of the boom bap
marley marl feature record
adventures in emcee'n.
plus, a classic verse every appearance on survival skills.
whereas, in comparison jay struggles and possibly uses pusha t as a ghostwriter on wtt.
on top of krs having the best actual mixtape ever made in:
a man and his music.
on top of having anemiac skills and lack of technical proficiency.
that is flabby and sick and shows no possible ability to ramp up at all.
plus, is not based on a sonic landscape change.
yet, based upon jay's actual anemiac lack of real skill.
when, no higher skilled contemporaries is around.
for, jay to skill morph and bite off of to ramp up.
how is jay better when he needed contemporaries to ramp him up for a decade plus.
before his solo debut, and also needed label contemporaries to skill morph off of in his impactful drawing years.
plus, has used a ghostwriter on more than one occassion.
later when his largest drawing years were waning.
incomparison to krs who had lesser resources and was able to have immediate impact.
an undefeated battle record versus melle mel. the old school way of thought's best selling and best skilled emcee.
plus, beat shan in a battle, krs precipitated as a NOBODY.
while shan had the airwaves of ny on lock with marley marl.
which lead to krs building an even better rapport.
with, the legendary red alert to combat the radio deficiency.
that lead to a classic moments from the best mixtape ever released in, a man and his music.
to the first safe sex rap anthem ever made in jimmy.
plus, jimmy and stop the violence can possibly be credited.
with the first time a new school way of thought rapper.
created the draw for a public service announcement via rap records.
plus, lead to a nation wide school system marchs lead by krs one.
individually visiting impoverished schools in that era.

lemme answer my question for you....
on NO fukk'n day, EVER.
is jay better than fukk'n krs fukk'n one.

you must be out of your fukk'n mind,...WHAT ARE YOU STUPID!!????!!!
KRS ONE IS THE DON!!!



art barr

Big up, was interested to hear your perspective on this, about to check it out.
 

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krs >>>>>>>> jay


krs = the real GOAT


krs is better than jayz in every imaginable facet.
to the point, that even right now.
krs is still head and shoulders above jay as a skill emcee talent.
we can look as far back.
as south Bronx, and the bridge is over to criminal minded.
all through jay's hiccups in his solo career before dead president's.
that jay only has one good quality feature on the bside the originators.
all the way to the current landscape skill wise and quality album record, right now.

to the point, that krs started his career with back to back classic singles.
then, followed it up with back to back classic albums.
that became the actual rubrick to making quality rap records in any rap genre.
while also ushering in the slow flow.
the first quality album and record standard marketable flow and delivery in rap history
that still to this day, govern and span from gangsta rap to any other imaginable rap termed genre.
so, off top....
anyone making a quality rap album has to follow the rubrick of criminal minded to by all means necessary.
meaning have a slow flow,..which jay did not master till 1997's, volume one to the streets is watching soundtrack project.
while also, leaning on the skillsts of his contemporaries in sauce money, BIG L and jaz.
the same skillsts he has no real mastery of.
plus, is viewed as his best era in skill output.
which is built off of completely biting the slow flow krs brought ot the dance.
plus, biting ll cool j's slow flow as well.
the same slow flow the entire record industry has had to master to sell rap records
which was brought single handidly to the forefront of rap by krs one.
a flow and style to this day, krs still shows the best proficiency of and also, incorporating styles
the same type of style that jay has ditched from his original incarnation as a performer or emcee.
that at times rears its ugly offkey head and is frowned upon by jay fans

krs is also the lone emecee who ushered in the new school way of thought, and also took out mthe last way of thought's best emcee.

while jay has lost every single time he has battled.
an of skilled battled emcee, has reluctantly decided to take and downplayed after loss.
alternatively krs is undefeated.
which includes the last large black selling artist not named eminem in nelly.
plus, took out the original best ny radio dj's understudy with the bridge is over.
on top, of being so fearsome in that arena.
no one dares to even think about.
nor, has a foothold to stand on cred wise to diss, the real GOAT, KRS 1.
krs, is the god father of emcee vocal delivery and style.
krs, is also, the godfather of the elongated syllable slow flow.
all are styles, jay has done or amalgamated for his own projects.
while, jay eliminated his own real skillset.
by using elements amalgamated from criminal minded to by all means, on other projects.
to be able to craft quality albums.
on top of the fact, jay patterned his entire career in the beginning.
to piggy back off of illmatic, and nas's solo foray.
the same ilmmatic, which was crafted from its krs 1 precursor and the original rubrick for illmatic.
which is krs's first solo titled lp, titled return of the the boom bap.
which was in 1993, which even later in the nineties.
krs still had the best actual single with step in the world in 1997.
after big and pac's death, broke the sales barrier based glass ceiling.
which, also saw jayz have to relaunch on defjam as a distributor.
which then, lead to his sales impactful triumph on 1998's volume ii.
that I have termed the sales spike era.
which culminated with the original marketing boom of leo burnett's focus on hiphop based marketing
during this time period was also a sonic landscape and change in bpm's for that era.
which impacted mostly all of rap, and ushered in the two syllable technically proficient mainstream rapper.
those technically proficient rappers with no connection to the culture, and fans who have no cultural connection.
oversaturated, and have attempted to squelch out the cultural connection of hiphop to rap.
which is why we have such a lopsided poll in erroneous favor of jayz.
QUESTION :
how is jayz better than krs.
when he employed and used every element krs brought to the dance, single handidly.
plus, does not have a better discography, at all.
which does not feature back to back classics in two different sonic landscape based gens.
plus, krs features a classic performance on survival skills.
on top of the classic return of the boom bap.
which is the precursor to illmatic and chased by mostly all of the debut artist and contemporaries in rap from the mid-nineties.
to compare to jay's lackidasical possibly ghostwritten feature lp on watch the throne.
plus, if we revision history for jayz's first album RD.
then, we have to revise history for krs.
which means, we would have to tally krs's classic record total.
to include every record he dropped from criminal minded in bdp.
all the way to his selftitled lp, KRS ONE.
if we revise history for jay's albums classic wise.
then, we still only get three records at best.
which are:
RD
BLACK ALBUM : which is controversial cause we don't know if he wrote it, at all.
BLUE PRINT : when, krs already created an album called blueprint.
that also, featured the style you haven't tried yet.
which is pretty much the introduction to the standard rhyme meter that jayz's mostly employed over his solo career relaunch.

so again, how in the hell is jay better.
when:
jay lost every battle with worthy skilled contemporaries.
incomparison to krs who slaughtered allcomers and took out the last guard's best emcee.
plus, served the last highest selling rapper in rap.
that was not white, in nelly./
jay only really has two classics.
while krs has legit, five classics, upon direct release with no revision.
that include:
criminal minded
by all means necessary
return of the boom bap
marley marl feature record
adventures in emcee'n.
plus, a classic verse every appearance on survival skills.
whereas, in comparison jay struggles and possibly uses pusha t as a ghostwriter on wtt.
on top of krs having the best actual mixtape ever made in:
a man and his music.
on top of having anemiac skills and lack of technical proficiency.
that is flabby and sick and shows no possible ability to ramp up at all.
plus, is not based on a sonic landscape change.
yet, based upon jay's actual anemiac lack of real skill.
when, no higher skilled contemporaries is around.
for, jay to skill morph and bite off of to ramp up.
how is jay better when he needed contemporaries to ramp him up for a decade plus.
before his solo debut, and also needed label contemporaries to skill morph off of in his impactful drawing years.
plus, has used a ghostwriter on more than one occassion.
later when his largest drawing years were waning.
incomparison to krs who had lesser resources and was able to have immediate impact.
an undefeated battle record versus melle mel. the old school way of thought's best selling and best skilled emcee.
plus, beat shan in a battle, krs precipitated as a NOBODY.
while shan had the airwaves of ny on lock with marley marl.
which lead to krs building an even better rapport.
with, the legendary red alert to combat the radio deficiency.
that lead to a classic moments from the best mixtape ever released in, a man and his music.
to the first safe sex rap anthem ever made in jimmy.
plus, jimmy and stop the violence can possibly be credited.
with the first time a new school way of thought rapper.
created the draw for a public service announcement via rap records.
plus, lead to a nation wide school system marchs lead by krs one.
individually visiting impoverished schools in that era.

lemme answer my question for you....
on NO fukk'n day, EVER.
is jay better than fukk'n krs fukk'n one.

you must be out of your fukk'n mind,...WHAT ARE YOU STUPID!!????!!!
KRS ONE IS THE DON!!!



art barr

Some excellent points, exactly, I don't see how Jay's discography is even close to KRS, on a quality level let alone everything he stood and stands for. I definitely believe if KRS was in that mainstream spot and Jay was underground hardly anyone would think Jay was better, but a lot of people are slaves to celebrity and media hype and often don't even know it. Infact a lot of people in here even freely and readily admitted they haven't heard any or much of KRS's material, therefore what is their basis to judge? It's merely on fame and celebrity and the brainwashed sheep mentality. Plus a few that do know a bit of his material often don't go that deep and know as much as they should, they might know Criminal Minded, KRS-One, Return Of The Boom Bap and some of I Got Next but they haven't kept track properly and KRS has been cementing himself even further, he's released a lot of quality over the years. And it's unquestionable stylistically and obviously substance wise that KRS has done things Jay Z has never done, or even really approached. Yes another good point, Jay is documented to have lost battles why KRS is clearly undefeated, and in most if not all cases obliterated the opposition something serious. A Man And His Music? What is that? Where can I hear that? Think I may have missed that. Thought I had everything from Kris.
 

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KRS got this easy, it's not even really a debate for me.

if you wanna break it down into categories KRS wins everything except sales

flows>>
catalogue>>
subject matter>>
battle supremacy>>
storytelling>>
influence>>
longevity>>

the only thing you could argue besides lyrics is beats. Jay has had some of the best producers ever on his albums and for the most part he always has dope beats. KRS has done a lot of his stuff in house and some of it is questionable (to some), but some of it is classic.
 

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Black Excellence (Jay) vs Black Pestilence (Kris)

Now you tell me who won :pachaha:

@Art Barr could Biz Markie beat Juice in a rap battle by dancing?



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Hov still in the lead :wow:

I wonder how many people list K Rino as a top lyricist.... @The Ruler 09 post those peoples top 5 lists again and see how many people think ol buddy is a top 5 lyricist :mjlol:

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Lmao, are you gonna answer about the poll on here where Nas beat Jay and Jay had like 20 something percent? You can't have it both ways. Those who have heard K-Rino certainly regard him as a top lyricist, infact in the top 20 GOAT list K-Rino was mentioned several times and people like Scarface, Z-Ro, Premier and many others rate him extremely highly.
 
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