Jay Z vs KRS-One (Poll)

Jay Z or KRS-One?

  • Jay Z

    Votes: 118 58.1%
  • KRS-One

    Votes: 85 41.9%

  • Total voters
    203

The Ruler 09

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
Jul 14, 2012
Messages
38,626
Reputation
1,757
Daps
38,246
Reppin
NULL
Give some examples then...And KRS rhymed nothing like Pun in terms of rhyme compounds, rhyme patterns, syllable usage etc...

and KRS-One is my favorite rapper of all time, I'm just telling you, I'm more familiar with his catalog than anyone I know. His strength was never his lyrical complexity. Again, yes, he did have great lyrics at times, but also was very simple and direct at times too.

Like I said complexity isn't just in the aspects you mentioned, complex content is things that aren't basic plane stuff, obviously as a KRS fan yourself you know he does that, I'm not saying KRS rhymed like Pun lol, but in terms of rhymes he was not at all a cat, hat, bat rhymer...

For example, his 2nd verse on this...



Complex flows, again as a KRS-One fan you know about the flows, and about the complexity in styles. KRS was simple when he wanted to be, but anytime he wanted to step it up he was more than capable of doing that.
 

FreshAIG

Moderator
Staff member
Poster of the Year
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
71,135
Reputation
16,405
Daps
313,697
Reppin
Californ-i-a by way of BK
Like I said complexity isn't just in the aspects you mentioned, complex content is things that aren't basic plane stuff, obviously as a KRS fan yourself you know he does that, I'm not saying KRS rhymed like Pun lol, but in terms of rhymes he was not at all a cat, hat, bat rhymer...

For example, his 2nd verse on this...



Complex flows, again as a KRS-One fan you know about the flows, and about the complexity in styles. KRS was simple when he wanted to be, but anytime he wanted to step it up he was more than capable of doing that.


I love that song, I remember the video and everything. Again, it wasn't complex lyrically. It was good though. And when people talk about complex lyrics you know what people mean. Come on man. I know you're the biggest KRS fan in the world but it's okay to admit he wasn't anything special in that department. That doesn't take away from his legacy at all.
 

The Ruler 09

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
Jul 14, 2012
Messages
38,626
Reputation
1,757
Daps
38,246
Reppin
NULL
I love that song, I remember the video and everything. Again, it wasn't complex lyrically. It was good though. And when people talk about complex lyrics you know what people mean. Come on man. I know you're the biggest KRS fan in the world but it's okay to admit he wasn't anything special in that department. That doesn't take away from his legacy at all.

It's nothing to do with me not wanting to admit anything. It's a legitimate point, complexity isn't just in lyrical techniques, that's like saying multies defines complexity, complexity as an MC comes in many forms. one of the original forms is rhymes, like how much you rhyme. I'm not saying KRS is the most complex lyricist in Hip Hop, but I do think he's a dope lyricist, and how much you rhyme can be part of a rhyme scheme, also in regards to techniques people talk about, such as multies, I notice so much, with really GREAT MC's , because they sound effortless and natural when they do the techniques it's overlooked, like a Biggie, Pac, KRS-One and others, because they don't emphasise it, or make it prominent like a G Rap or a Big Pun, but they do it all the time all the same, And content is obviously part of the complexity, Aztechnical for instance isn't a basic Superman that hoe song lol. You can't limit complexity to just those few areas and disregard everything else.
 

The Ruler 09

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
Jul 14, 2012
Messages
38,626
Reputation
1,757
Daps
38,246
Reppin
NULL
Verse Three: KRS-One

Now don't say nuttin while I'm checkin ya
Causin hysteria been in more battles than America
Rap messanger, comin in quick I pick up the mizick and watch em stagger
Rip another verse and watch his body splatter
Whether you like me or not don't matter, Kris is not a actor
I'll burn your favorite rapper and leave him in stitches
Weak bytches, real renegade rap rebels rip rhymes
Ferociously, which one of these p*ssy MC's can go at me
So if you wish to play me like a farmer
I get calmer, chop ya ass up like Jeffrey Dahmer
My pyschopathic fantastic pathic puts you in a casket
On top of that, you can get your ass kicked
Quick, awww shyt
(undecipherable)
And I got more rhymes than Madonna gets dikk
And I'm the lyrical lunatic, that flips offness with the quickness
Yo I get heated like cough menthalyptus now
The micraphone I must feel it I must touch it up
Kris One and Tim Dog's come to fukk it up
Evidentally I bust shots till the Glock is empty
No safety, pull the trigger tip don't try to chase me
Down, chase the sound you must be buggin
This is Boogie Down, Boogie Down, Boogie Down Boogie Down Boogie Down Produc-tions
Jump around be the one is the function
Tim Dog, why don't you show em a little something

I'm not gonna break this down fully due to time but within this there is numerous internal rhymes, alliteration, multies, loads of rhymes within just a line or two, it's not just the basic one word at the end of a bar, or the 2 word multi at the end of the bar, it's rhyming a great deal. And that's a random example, within his work he has numerous lyrical verses. Can't get lyrical misinterpreted, because there's many ways to do things.

If I was Rhyme King I would highlight the words but ... lol.
 

Invisible Man

The Real Huey
Joined
Jan 26, 2014
Messages
1,192
Reputation
170
Daps
1,532
Reppin
Outer Space
KRS blows Gay-Z the fukk out of the water. No comparison. If the only album KRS ever put out was Criminal Minded, he'd still be superior to Jay's lazy ass.
 
Joined
Feb 25, 2013
Messages
7,306
Reputation
-700
Daps
9,401
Reppin
me
Just listening, I don't think the verse is that good, it's pretty forgettable to me, infact I've never heard anyone mention it ever until now. Decent rhymes, but it doesn't sound amazing or say anything THAT profound.

So...



Infact listening to this, it sounds so much superior in every way as an MC. Everything from delivery to presence.


you thinking shiny suit theory "isn't that good" makes your opinion & post null and void.
 
Last edited:
Top