It's funny when people talk that white boy shyt, when 99 percent of the people picking KRS are black, and people like Ed Sheeran and Scott Storch got Jay...
Jay Z vs KRS-One (Poll)
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Chuck D
KRS,Rakim,JAYZ.MelleMel,IceCube,LLCoolJ,Tupac,Eminem,bigDaddyKane
KRS,Rakim,JAYZ.MelleMel,IceCube,LLCoolJ,Tupac,Eminem,bigDaddyKane
Stop this nonsense about "real heads" bro. It's stuff like that turns people off to your opinion right away. It's arrogance when you try to take that tone with people who obviously know about hip hop culture and the art of rapping. It's your way of elevating your opinion above others because you find yourself in a losing position. That makes sense if you're dealing with teeny boppers but not when you're dealing with people on a hip hop message board who know their shyt.
Jay Z is hated on here and he's definitively winning over KRS, that alone should tell you something. Ice Cube picked rappers that he liked because of their content alone. That is what he based his list off of. They didn't say top 5, they said your FAVORITE 5. My favorite 5 rappers would probably not be the same as my attempt to rank a top 5. Naming a top 5 anything requires one to look beyond one's subjective preferences and to objectively breakdown different categories. When comparing KRS One and Jay Z, one emcee at his best is better than the other at everything besides "content." But Jay-Z is still a great song maker. KRS' content isn't enough to put him over Jay anymore than Kweli's content doesn't make him a better emcee than Biggie. Posting up videos of old heads naming guys from their generation is as about as persuasive as having guys who played in the 60s and 70s say Kobe and Duncan aren't top 10 caliber. Once again Scott Storch just said who he lives. Who someone likes and who is top 5 are two different things. Common's probably one of my 5 favorite rappers and wouldn't make my top 5.
Real heads isn't nonsense, this is Hip Hop. I'm not trying to convert anyone to my opinion, so I don't care about that. Speak the truth, would even if I was the only one saying it. It's not arrogance at all, if I try tell experts about their field that is arrogance. I'm not sure if you've actually read what I've said, but I said real heads CAN say Jay over KRS. What I was critising was the stans, your not gonna tell me there's no stans in here when there self proclaimed stans.
Disagree, most these people don't know shyt but they think they do, they have an extremely basic small knowledge, and most times not even enough to even speak on the issues, if I don't know about something I be quiet until I do. Not spout bullshyt and dikkride. Again your incorrect, as I've stated I can disagree with someone and completely respect their opinion, even on this issue, what I CANNOT and WILL NOT respect is the absolute disrespect to an artist, legend and pioneer such as KRS-One. Just cause someone is on a Hip Hop message board doesn't mean they know their shyt, ANYONE can sign up here.
Jay Z is loved on here and hated, he has numerous stans, dikkriders who are not objective, I've already stated my admiration for Jay on numerous occasions. I am a fan, not a stan though. Loosing position? Lmao, loosing at what? The masses do not decide or define Hip Hop. What about all the other people that are certified that picked KRS? Nope, most of those lists were top 5 not favourite. Again your showing you don't REALLY know what your talking about, weren't you the one earlier who said you aren't up on KRS' work? If so then how are you even qualified to compare? Your basing it cause you like Jay, that's stannish.
Mary J. Blige
"I would start from the beginning with KRS-One, then I would go to Rakim. The reason why I put KRS-One at the top of my list is because he taught us something: Right now, no one wants to remove themselves enough to help the new generation. Songs like 'You Must Learn' and 'Self Destruction' helped us to think just a little more positively. He educated us and he loved us and he removed his selfishness enough to help us, and that's why he and Rakim are at the top of my list. I would then go to LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane, Black Moon, Biggie, Pac, Meth [Method Man], Jay-Z, Nas."
"I would start from the beginning with KRS-One, then I would go to Rakim. The reason why I put KRS-One at the top of my list is because he taught us something: Right now, no one wants to remove themselves enough to help the new generation. Songs like 'You Must Learn' and 'Self Destruction' helped us to think just a little more positively. He educated us and he loved us and he removed his selfishness enough to help us, and that's why he and Rakim are at the top of my list. I would then go to LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane, Black Moon, Biggie, Pac, Meth [Method Man], Jay-Z, Nas."
Jadakiss "He definitely had an influence on me. Just the way he put his sh-- together, the way he was dropping knowledge and it was still hard. That's incredibly hard to do: to get accepted, to get your point across and be looked at like an incredible lyricist and stage performer. He covered everything. His stage show is crazy, freestyle is crazy. He can get deep on you. His battle raps are crazy. He was the teacher. He was dangerous. I remember when [we were] shopping our demo — we were still the Warlocks — I met KRS and we was going to do a song with him. He was like, 'This song is gonna guarantee you one spin. Then whatever the world thinks of you, it's on from there.' We never had a chance to do the record, but just to sit down and have that meeting with him was incredible."
KRS is undefeated in battle also, while Jay been defeated by Nas, Bizzy Bone and from reports drew with DMX.
Jay got a classic in Reasonable Doubt, if being generous could say Blueprint too. KRS got Criminal Minded, By All Means Necessary, Ghetto Music: The BLUEPRINT Of Hip Hop, Edutainment, Sex And Violence, Return Of The Boom Bap, KRS-One and I think he's got one more other than that too but will leave that out.
Live performance, Jay has improved from when he first started, and now I'd actually say he presents a very dope and enjoyable stage show, but KRS is know as possibly THE best performer in Hip Hop history. He's incredible live.
KRS is much more original, in terms of style KRS is pretty much unique, while Jay is a mixture of Big Daddy Kane, Grandmaster Caz , Jaz O etc , with his own twist of course, but he's a continuation, while KRS is very unique, even though content wise he probably has some Melle Mel etc influence there, but not stylistically really.
Jay got a classic in Reasonable Doubt, if being generous could say Blueprint too. KRS got Criminal Minded, By All Means Necessary, Ghetto Music: The BLUEPRINT Of Hip Hop, Edutainment, Sex And Violence, Return Of The Boom Bap, KRS-One and I think he's got one more other than that too but will leave that out.
Live performance, Jay has improved from when he first started, and now I'd actually say he presents a very dope and enjoyable stage show, but KRS is know as possibly THE best performer in Hip Hop history. He's incredible live.
KRS is much more original, in terms of style KRS is pretty much unique, while Jay is a mixture of Big Daddy Kane, Grandmaster Caz , Jaz O etc , with his own twist of course, but he's a continuation, while KRS is very unique, even though content wise he probably has some Melle Mel etc influence there, but not stylistically really.
the rhyme king
truth.com
Well now you're forced to listen to the teacher and the lesson
Class is in session so you can stop guessin
If this is a tape or a written down memo
See I am a professional, this is not a demo
In fact call it a lecture, a visual picture
Sort of a poetic and rhythm-like mixture
Listen, I'm not dissin but there's somethin that you're missin
Maybe you should touch reality, stop wishin
For beats with plenty bass and lyrics said in haste
If this meaning doesn't manifest put it to rest
I am a poet, you try to show it, yet blow it
It takes concentration for fresh communication
Observation, that is to see without speaking
Take off your coat, take notes, I am teachin
a class, or rather school, cause you need schooling
I am not a king or queen, I'm not ruling
This is an introduction to poetry
A small dedication to those that might know of me
They might know of you and maybe your gang
But one thing's for sure, neither one of y'all can hang
Cause yo I'm like a arrow, and Scott is the crossbow
Say something now ... thought so
You seem to be the type that only understand
The annihilation and destruction of the next man
That's not poetry, that is insanity
It's simply fantasy far from reality
Poetry is the language of imagination
Poetry is a form of positive creation
Difficult, isn't it? The point? You're missin it
Your face is in front of my hand so I'm dissin it
Class is in session so you can stop guessin
If this is a tape or a written down memo
See I am a professional, this is not a demo
In fact call it a lecture, a visual picture
Sort of a poetic and rhythm-like mixture
Listen, I'm not dissin but there's somethin that you're missin
Maybe you should touch reality, stop wishin
For beats with plenty bass and lyrics said in haste
If this meaning doesn't manifest put it to rest
I am a poet, you try to show it, yet blow it
It takes concentration for fresh communication
Observation, that is to see without speaking
Take off your coat, take notes, I am teachin
a class, or rather school, cause you need schooling
I am not a king or queen, I'm not ruling
This is an introduction to poetry
A small dedication to those that might know of me
They might know of you and maybe your gang
But one thing's for sure, neither one of y'all can hang
Cause yo I'm like a arrow, and Scott is the crossbow
Say something now ... thought so
You seem to be the type that only understand
The annihilation and destruction of the next man
That's not poetry, that is insanity
It's simply fantasy far from reality
Poetry is the language of imagination
Poetry is a form of positive creation
Difficult, isn't it? The point? You're missin it
Your face is in front of my hand so I'm dissin it
Self_Born7
SUN OF MAN
i go see KRS at a lil hole in the wall spot. performing all his classics, while I smokes me herb chilling... for about a 20 spot...
I aint fukk with Jay Z since Reasonable Doubt......
I aint fukk with Jay Z since Reasonable Doubt......
Niggga says the bolded but spent all last night posting videos quotes nd sht to show why KRS is better while getting no responses
Lying ass nikka
Niggga says the bolded but spent all last night posting videos quotes nd sht to show why KRS is better while getting no responses
Lying ass nikka
You really are an idiot lol. What I was showing was that many real certified Hip Hop heads have KRS over Jay. And proving your point about "whiteboys" false too. Anyway why do you even like Jay? Doesn't he stand for everything you don't like? You say white people shouldn't be allowed in Hip Hop, yet Jay put Eminem on Renegade, got a beat from Rick Rubin and worked with a bunch of other white people. Your homophobic (apparently) yet Jay came out in support of gay marriage, and you are a Drake lover and Jay just dissed him lol. Dropped facts that can't be rebuked, yet you just said weird lies to suit your agenda.
You can't convert someone clinically mentally retarded into Einstein so that's not something I expected at all. But needed the other view point, from people actually credible in Hip Hop not a bunch of stans who fight over being the top stan of an artist lol.
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Niggga says the bolded but spent all last night posting videos quotes nd sht to show why KRS is better while getting no responses
Lying ass nikka
Why you going against your master for? Lol.